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there was an open campaign from the crew of the Maersk about how the Real Captain Phillips was a major tool that effectively endangered the lives of everyone.

It seems everyone was bitter that this asshole coward was turned into a hero in this movie.

True story, actually.

Similar to NYFD and NYPD vs. Guilliani re: 9/11


I don't think that should affect anything.
But it probably did.
 
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Below is all I have to say about the Oscars:

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smackababy

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As much as I liked Wolf of Wallstreet, Leo didn't deserve to win. Dallas Buyers Club was simply phenomenal acting wise and was a social impact movie (same as 12 Years a Slave). Nothing else stood a chance against them except in the more technical aspects (Gravity, for example, cleaned up there).

I didn't like Frozen so I hated the song and the fact that it won anyway. Pharrell's song was much better IMO and deserved to win.
 

Ns1

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i think the awards probably landed where they should, with gravity cleaning up the technical awards while other movies won the acting awards.
 

smackababy

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I think Dallas Buyers Club should have won best picture, but other than that, I was okay with Gravity winning what it did.

My biggest problem was that Nebraska was nominated in a lot of categories and that movie looked awful. Seriously? Why even both nominating it; it won't be anything. And, that Woody Allen is still allowed to make movies. 100% of his movies are terrible AND he is a child molester; I'm sorry, but when you divorce your wife and marry your ex step daughter, you should be shamed into killing yourself.
 

zinfamous

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Leto had the best speech because of the mom bit. I stopped really concentrating on the speeches after the first hour -- not enough sleep Saturday night, exhausted all day = zoned out.

I actually thought Leto's was a bit long in the tooth and it soured me on whatever he was saying in the end.

I thought the Nairobian girl was way better. And fully honest, for one thing. (not to claim that Leto was being dishonest about anything...but come on :p)
 

zinfamous

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I don't think that should affect anything.
But it probably did.

I agree, but the crew has filed lawsuit against Maersk, and their lawyer has more or less pointed towards Phillips for poor decision-making.

http://www.businessinsider.com/lawsuit-against-maersk-line-over-captain-phillips-ship-2013-10

I doubt this influences voters, but I wonder if the Academy higher-ups were concerned about negative publicity had Hanks or the film won anything.

I think the reality, though, is that Hanks already has 2 statues, there were far better, far more interesting performances this year for this film to be in real contention.

I doubt it would have been in the 5 finalist format.
 

bigrash

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How did Sandra Bullock get beat by someone from a Woody Allen movie? I don't care how much "drama" there is in a Woody Allen movie, at the end of the film all the characters will still have air to breathe!

(In case you hadn't noticed, I can't stand Woody Allen or his movies.)

I think Sandra Bullock deserved that Oscar too.
 

zinfamous

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I think Dallas Buyers Club should have won best picture, but other than that, I was okay with Gravity winning what it did.

My biggest problem was that Nebraska was nominated in a lot of categories and that movie looked awful. Seriously? Why even both nominating it; it won't be anything. And, that Woody Allen is still allowed to make movies. 100% of his movies are terrible AND he is a child molester; I'm sorry, but when you divorce your wife and marry your ex step daughter, you should be shamed into killing yourself.


actually, it seems that none of that is true.

He does make some fantastic movies, though. For one thing, Soon Yi was never really his stepdaughter--she was Mia's step daughter. The two never even lived together when they were a couple (Mia and Woody), when they were together, and Woody only really met the girl when she was 18 (call it creepy all you want after that, but the fact of the matter is he had no real contact with this girl until she was an "adult").

Even the other kids are pretty much coming out against Mia as leading a long campaign of brainwashing and turning the daughters against Woody, essentially making up allegations that have been outright dismissed in court--profound lack of evidence, and all that.

Not saying he isn't creepy, but it's pretty clear that he never molested a child.
 

JulesMaximus

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How did Sandra Bullock get beat by someone from a Woody Allen movie? I don't care how much "drama" there is in a Woody Allen movie, at the end of the film all the characters will still have air to breathe!

(In case you hadn't noticed, I can't stand Woody Allen or his movies.)

Cate Blanchett was fucking amazing in that role. She totally deserved to win the Oscar.

I thought Matthew McConaughey and Jared Leto both would win and they did of course but it was well deserved. I liked McConaughey's speech too.

By the way, if you have HBO and you aren't watching True Detective you are missing one of the best shows on TV right now.
 

smackababy

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actually, it seems that none of that is true.

He does make some fantastic movies, though. For one thing, Soon Yi was never really his stepdaughter--she was Mia's step daughter. The two never even lived together when they were a couple (Mia and Woody), when they were together, and Woody only really met the girl when she was 18 (call it creepy all you want after that, but the fact of the matter is he had no real contact with this girl until she was an "adult").

Even the other kids are pretty much coming out against Mia as leading a long campaign of brainwashing and turning the daughters against Woody, essentially making up allegations that have been outright dismissed in court--profound lack of evidence, and all that.

Not saying he isn't creepy, but it's pretty clear that he never molested a child.

Super creepy, and my point remains. He may not have molested her as a child, but your step daughter should not be on the list of people you want to fuck.
 
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Woody is wrong in every sense but not a criminal at this time. Should he be showered with Hollywood love? Nope and I agree his movies have stunk. Mia is wrong also, she has done everything in her power to make people hate Woody.
Roman Polanski is another issue, he should be scorned. I know people are going to say the girl (now a woman) said nothing bad happened that she wasn't into at the time but regardless she was a minor. This is criminal and beyond creepy.
 

smackababy

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Woody is wrong in every sense but not a criminal at this time. Should he be showered with Hollywood love? Nope and I agree his movies have stunk. Mia is wrong also, she has done everything in her power to make people hate Woody.
Roman Polanski is another issue, he should be scorned. I know people are going to say the girl (now a woman) said nothing bad happened that she wasn't into at the time but regardless she was a minor. This is criminal.

Roman Polanski also can't legally enter the United States. So, it isn't like we just gave him a free pass.
 

JulesMaximus

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Super creepy, and my point remains. He may not have molested her as a child, but your step daughter should not be on the list of people you want to fuck.

Except that she isn't Woody's step daughter. Woody Allen and Mia Farrow were never married.
 

zinfamous

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Super creepy, and my point remains. He may not have molested her as a child, but your step daughter should not be on the list of people you want to fuck.

Oh, I agree with you....but the situation with Sun Yi isn't even remotely close to how it has been portrayed.

She isn't his step daughter. In her mind, Woody was Mom's boyfriend.

Yes, that can be considered creepy, too, but it also makes for a popular genre of porn, does it not.....

:hmm:
 

zinfamous

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Dylan Farrow was 7 at the time of her alleged abuse. Maybe she's lying, but I wouldn't say he's clearly innocent either.

the alleged incident took place in a small vacation home that was literally packed with family.

Mia's argument is that Woody, who was already under investigation at the time, due to her allegations, took a 15 minute opportunity to take her into the attic and rape her, while surrounded by family in that same house.

It's quite absurd, really.

The supposed confession video was also recorded over 3 days--the other kids, as well as one of Mia's servants, said that Mia paused and recorded Dylan's "confession" whenever a line slipped, or she felt it wasn't convincing enough.

At this point, I actually feel bad for myself for so easily believing such a one-sided and flawed story for so long. :\
 

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I have no problem disconnecting the man from the art. I love a lot of Polanski's films despite the fact I think he's a creep.

I don't really like any of Allen's movies (a couple are ok) and it has nothing to do with the fact that I think he's a creep.

The movies I watch on their own and judge them on their own.

KT
 
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the alleged incident took place in a small vacation home that was literally packed with family.

Mia's argument is that Woody, who was already under investigation at the time, due to her allegations, took a 15 minute opportunity to take her into the attic and rape her, while surrounded by family in that same house.

It's quite absurd, really.

The supposed confession video was also recorded over 3 days--the other kids, as well as one of Mia's servants, said that Mia paused and recorded Dylan's "confession" whenever a line slipped, or she felt it wasn't convincing enough.

At this point, I actually feel bad for myself for so easily believing such a one-sided and flawed story for so long. :\

Wasn't there a day care center trial in MA or NH in the 80s where the kids were coached so much it was comical. Do I remember some claiming they were put on a space ship and another said he was held above a tank of sharks?
 

Ns1

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I actually thought Leto's was a bit long in the tooth and it soured me on whatever he was saying in the end.

I thought the Nairobian girl was way better. And fully honest, for one thing. (not to claim that Leto was being dishonest about anything...but come on :p)

she went on, and on, and on, and on...and thanked everyone and their mom (and their mom's hairstylist).

definitely genuine though lol
 

zinfamous

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she went on, and on, and on, and on...and thanked everyone and their mom (and their mom's hairstylist).

definitely genuine though lol


Leto was bringing in all the current tragedies of the world, which were more or less unrelated to anything going on with him. I won't fault him for that--I can only assume these things are indeed important to him. It was just came off very unfocused and, well, a bit out there?

The girl whose name I can not remember was only talking about her life and what she went through to get where she was. No one can deny that honesty, and it was also very focused. She conveyed honest emotion; Leto conveyed well-groomed hair. :D