It's official. Trump considering pardoning convicted sex trafficker and rapist of young girls, Ghislane Maxwell

[mikeymikec]

If you think there is a third option then name it

Devil's advocate here, I'll name one:

She complimented him.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/22/ghislaine-maxwell-jeffrey-epstein-donald-trump-interview-00520352

"In the times that I was with him, he was a gentleman in all respects.”

The notion of "a compliment buys you a pardon" still isn't a great look for Donald though, especially when one is a notorious sex trafficker.

 

[cytg111]

Devil's advocate here, I'll name one:

She complimented him.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/22/ghislaine-maxwell-jeffrey-epstein-donald-trump-interview-00520352

The notion of "a compliment buys you a pardon" still isn't a great look for Donald though, especially when one is a notorious sex trafficker.

Nah, geek knows as much that that would be equal to pulling the trigger at his own temple.


Geek is out-there where he is excusing Trumps bad behavior cause he likes his SC picks.

That was first term though. Would like to know his rationale this time around.

 

[HomerJS]

See there is your problem exactly: ** "There are only 2 options."

So you believe there are no other options than those two.

** Quoted for the bull shit that it is.

We will be waiting forever for @pcgeek11 and his 3rd option.

He is so steeped in dishonesty it weighs him down. He paints himself into a corner defending Trump and wonders how he got there.

 

[pcgeek11]

Wait a minute.

So Epstein & Trump ... and Trump and Israel ... and Epstein and Mossad.

Spice that up with Trump being Netanyahu's bitch - to taste.

Stir it around.

And you get Treason. Like real motherfucking end of a firing squad treason.

If Israel has the Epstein dirt on Trump and effectively be blackmailing him to do fucked up shit(like bomb Iran) on behalf on a foreign government ====> treason? Impeachment artlicle 2 section 4 and the rest goes down with him.

OMG. What an imagination.

All of these other people making up fantasies can't hold a candle to you.

 

[pcgeek11]

If you think there is a third option then name it

If you really thought about it you could come up with many options.

On a scale from 12 to 17, how well do you think Trump knew Jeffrey Epstein?

11?

I have no idea.

Still waiting for that 3rd option. Since I am so wrong

Why do you think there are only two possibilities? Back up your claim...

We will be waiting forever for @pcgeek11 and his 3rd option.

He is so steeped in dishonesty it weighs him down. He paints himself into a corner defending Trump and wonders how he got there.

Right like you said there only two possible options...

 

[cytg111]

OMG. What an imagination.

All of these other people making up fantasies can't hold a candle to you.

So you still a Trumper?

 

[pcgeek11]

So you still a Trumper?

Define "Trumper".

 

[cytg111]

Define "Trumper".

Support of Trump and his policies obv.

 

[cytg111]

OMG. What an imagination.

All of these other people making up fantasies can't hold a candle to you.

That should go to the conspiracy thread tbh.

 

[HomerJS]

If you really thought about it you could come up with many options.



I have no idea.



Why do you think there are only two possibilities? Back up your claim...



Right like you said there only two possible options...

I made the claim there are only 2 options and told you what they were. Nice try to divert.

If you are claiming there are more than 2 what is a third option? You must know.

Logic dictates my claim. Yours is steeped in defending Trump which is what you do. “I don’t know” is your way of acknowledging you want to defend Trump but can’t come up with anything but I wall also ignore the obvious.

Pedos are being protected. It’s just a matter of who.

Defending a lying piece of shit is tough. Maybe you should give it up

 

[mikeymikec]

It has been [ ZERO ] days since pcgeek11 dishonestly argued his position regarding Donald Trump.

Is anyone here at all surprised? The only reason the number needs updating is that he doesn't necessarily get into a discussion regarding his idol every day.

Donald has really painted himself into a corner though, the only ways to avoid him looking guiltier than a puppy sitting next to a pile of poo is to act like pcgeek11 with the five 5 D's of Dodgeball (which really isn't a good look either), or to cry "fake news" even at direct quotes from him on video.

 

[feralkid]

Clearly he doesn't care about young girls being raped or sex trafficked. He has now publicly indicated such.


We all knew this about him BEFORE the elected. He was an adjudicated sexual assaulter of E. Jean Carrol. He also admitted on radio bursting into the dressing room of his Miss Teen beauth pagents where girls as young as 15 were in various states of undress. (God forbit a trans woman walks into a womans changing room). He also admitted on radio of being a sexual predator. We also had the Access Hollywood tapes.

All you people voted for this piece of human garbage, this is a direct reflection on you because you knew. We all new.

Waiting for the usual chorus of Trump excuses from the usual pedophile apologists.

Release the Epstein files.

Easily done... Put pressure on Mikey to do his job...Swear-in Representative Adelita Grijalva.

 

[Jaskalas]

Why do you think there are only two possibilities? Back up your claim...

You made the counter assertion. Yet you refuse to back it up.
And that you repeatedly divert and deflect is transparent as hell.
You are not acting in good faith or being honest with us.

So if I were to say civil discourse is at an end, you would be the proof of that.

 

[mikeymikec]

Put pressure on Mikey to do his job...

I have to say, I did a double-take.

 

[pcgeek11]

Support of Trump and his policies obv.

Middle of the road. I do support some of his policies.

 

[pcgeek11]

I made the claim there are only 2 options and told you what they were. Nice try to divert.

If you are claiming there are more than 2 what is a third option? You must know.

Logic dictates my claim. Yours is steeped in defending Trump which is what you do. “I don’t know” is your way of acknowledging you want to defend Trump but can’t come up with anything but I wall also ignore the obvious.

Pedos are being protected. It’s just a matter of who.

Defending a lying piece of shit is tough. Maybe you should give it up

Your logic that defines that there are only two possibilities is deeply flawed.

IMO There are always a multitude of options whether you choose to acknowledge them or not. And no I'm not going to list them.

Specifically who are all these Pedos that you claim Trump is protecting. Also list the evidence supporting these claims. Do you have a copy of the alleged Epstein Files?

 

[fskimospy]

Your logic that defines that there are only two possibilities is deeply flawed.

IMO There are always a multitude of options whether you choose to acknowledge them or not. And no I'm not going to list them.

Specifically who are all these Pedos that you claim Trump is protecting. Also list the evidence supporting these claims. Do you have a copy of the alleged Epstein Files?

I know what you're getting at but in the end the presidency is a binary choice, which is what they are getting at. If memory serves you didn't vote for him in 2024 and that's great - he's not going to go away though unless he chokes on a McRib or something so sadly this is probably a choice you'll have to face again in some form or another.

As far as Epstein goes we know two things:
1) Epstein was a serial sex criminal, including with underage girls
2) Trump and other Republicans are taking an enormous amount of political heat in order to continue concealing the evidence in their possession.

It's a pretty reasonable inference that if someone is willing to eat a lot of shit to keep something secret there's a reason for it and no actually good ones come to mind here.

 

[outriding]

Define "Trumper".

I think you forgot the Jordan Peterson tags

 

[pcgeek11]

I know what you're getting at but in the end the presidency is a binary choice, which is what they are getting at. If memory serves you didn't vote for him in 2024 and that's great - he's not going to go away though unless he chokes on a McRib or something so sadly this is probably a choice you'll have to face again in some form or another.

As far as Epstein goes we know two things:
1) Epstein was a serial sex criminal, including with underage girls
2) Trump and other Republicans are taking an enormous amount of political heat in order to continue concealing the evidence in their possession.

It's a pretty reasonable inference that if someone is willing to eat a lot of shit to keep something secret there's a reason for it and no actually good ones come to mind here.

My point is with the evidence at hand it is just silly to make the statement that there are only two possibilities.

I personally think the unredacted documents ( with the exception of the witness' that are protected by the court ) should be made public. Note: I have said this all along.

Do I think Epstein performed improper acts upon minor females? Yes I do.

Do I think Epstein trafficked minor females for sex parties? Yes I do.

Do I think Maxwell acted as a recruiter for minor female victims? Yes I do.

Do I think Trump participated in these illegal activities? No I do not.

@HomerJS don't like it because I refuse to play in his little gotcha word game(s).

Do I care what @HomerJS thinks? No, I do not.

 

[pcgeek11]

I think you forgot the Jordan Peterson tags

??? Don't know what you mean by this.

Why not just say what you mean?

 

[IronWing]

??? Don't know what you mean by this.

Why not just say what you mean?

Asking for definitions of common words instead of addressing an issue is a common tactic for Peterson. It's a silly form of evasion.

 

[HomerJS]

My point is with the evidence at hand it is just silly to make the statement that there are only two possibilities.

I personally think the unredacted documents ( with the exception of the witness' that are protected by the court ) should be made public. Note: I have said this all along.

Do I think Epstein performed improper acts upon minor females? Yes I do.

Do I think Epstein trafficked minor females for sex parties? Yes I do.

Do I think Maxwell acted as a recruiter for minor female victims? Yes I do.

Do I think Trump participated in these illegal activities? No I do not.

@HomerJS don't like it because I refuse to play in his little gotcha word game(s).

Do I care what @HomerJS thinks? No, I do not.

Once again what is the third option if my assertion is so "silly"? What is really silly? There is no amount of logic you can use to concoct a third option. You are happy continuing your support of a pedophile.

Do we have hard evidence Trump participated in illegal activities? No. However there is tons of circumstantial evidence. That isn't enough to find Trump guilty but you would have us believe...

The DOJ lying about the Epstein files claiming there is nothing there isn't evidence of a massive coverup of who committed those illegal acts. We know Trump orders Bondi what to do. We also know nothing is legally stopping the FBI from releasing them. Files are being covered up to protect who us in them. We all know if the list were all Democrats the files would have been released yesterday.

 

[iRONic]

Ohman… an OT trip down memory lane of cleaning aircraft parts in trich and MEK. Muchas gracias, amigos.

 

[nakedfrog]

My point is with the evidence at hand it is just silly to make the statement that there are only two possibilities.

I personally think the unredacted documents ( with the exception of the witness' that are protected by the court ) should be made public. Note: I have said this all along.

Do I think Epstein performed improper acts upon minor females? Yes I do.

Do I think Epstein trafficked minor females for sex parties? Yes I do.

Do I think Maxwell acted as a recruiter for minor female victims? Yes I do.

Do I think Trump participated in these illegal activities? No I do not.

@HomerJS don't like it because I refuse to play in his little gotcha word game(s).

Do I care what @HomerJS thinks? No, I do not.

Well, there you go, you believe in option #2, Trump is covering up for people that engaged in activity with sexually trafficked young girls. Why is it so hard to just say that?

 

[HomerJS]

Your logic that defines that there are only two possibilities is deeply flawed.

IMO There are always a multitude of options whether you choose to acknowledge them or not. And no I'm not going to list them.

Specifically who are all these Pedos that you claim Trump is protecting. Also list the evidence supporting these claims. Do you have a copy of the alleged Epstein Files?

The pedophiles are listed in the files. We don't know who they are. DOJ knows who they are. They are refusing to release the files.

They are hiding the pedophiles, the Trump DOJ. Since you claim I am wrong that the only reasons to refuse to release them is to protect Trump and protect other pedophiles what is a third reason.