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It's official...Iraq was responsible for 9/11

Gaard

Diamond Member
Lehrer interview


JIM LEHRER: What would you say to somebody in the United States who questions whether or not getting rid of Saddam Hussein was worth the cost of more than a thousand lives now and billions and billions of U.S. dollars?

PRIME MINISTER IYAD ALLAWI: Well, I assure you if Saddam was still there, terrorists will be hitting there again at Washington and New York, as they did in the murderous attack in September; they'll be hitting also on other places in Europe and the Middle East.
 
Saddam harbored terrorists. Especially Al-Zarqawi has already been proven to have been in Iraq since before we invaded. There are hospital records of him getting treated in a Baghdad hospital from wounds he probably got while escaping Afghanistan.. Saddam also sponsored suicide bombers against Israel. If you think Iraq had nothing to do with terrorism you're mad.
 
Originally posted by: Luck JF
Saddam harbored terrorists. Especially Al-Zarqawi has already been proven to have been in Iraq since before we invaded. There are hospital records of him getting treated in a Baghdad hospital from wounds he probably got while escaping Afghanistan.. Saddam also sponsored suicide bombers against Israel. If you think Iraq had nothing to do with terrorism you're mad.
Way to change the subject. Iraq had no involvement in 9/11, and no significant connections to al Qaeda. Period. The Bush administration continually suggested such connections to scare the public into supporting his invasion of Iraq, but they were lying.

 
Originally posted by: Luck JF
Saddam harbored terrorists. Especially Al-Zarqawi has already been proven to have been in Iraq since before we invaded. There are hospital records of him getting treated in a Baghdad hospital from wounds he probably got while escaping Afghanistan.. Saddam also sponsored suicide bombers against Israel. If you think Iraq had nothing to do with terrorism you're mad.

Hmmm, not really sure what this has to do with the subject. Also, I'll have to go back and check, but I don't recall saying, or even suggesting, that Iraq had nothing to do with terrorism.
 
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: Luck JF
Saddam harbored terrorists. Especially Al-Zarqawi has already been proven to have been in Iraq since before we invaded. There are hospital records of him getting treated in a Baghdad hospital from wounds he probably got while escaping Afghanistan.. Saddam also sponsored suicide bombers against Israel. If you think Iraq had nothing to do with terrorism you're mad.
Hmmm, not really sure what this has to do with the subject. Also, I'll have to go back and check, but I don't recall saying, or even suggesting, that Iraq had nothing to do with terrorism.
Originally posted by: GrGr
Don't you know? Iraq = terrorists = 9/11. It's true. The Bushies say so.
What's the truth then?

I don't think anyone believes he was either 0% of 100% involved in helping terrorists...
 
Not really sure what you're asking b0mbrman. If you're asking how much terrorism was SH involved in, the correct answer would be "none of us know".

Don't you ever say to yourself however, whenever someone tells us, or implies, that SH/Iraq was responsible, or involved in, 9/11 "Hmmm, where's the evidence of this?"

Do you, yourself, believe SH/Iraq was responsible for 9/11? And if the answer is yes, why?
 
It appears that Allawi has no respect or integrity according to the libs on this foreign. Go figure, even when an Iraqi citizen asserts things about his own country, the wisdom of our liberal members is more valid to them than actual, factual testimony.
 
Originally posted by: Gravity
It appears that Allawi has no respect or integrity according to the libs on this foreign. Go figure, even when an Iraqi citizen asserts things about his own country, the wisdom of our liberal members is more valid to them than actual, factual testimony.

Here's another testimony from Iraqis:

Allawi safety claims 'out of touch with reality' say Iraqis

25 September 2004
By Patrick Cockburn in Baghdad
The Independent


Iraqis reacted with astonishment and derision yesterday to a claim made by the interim Prime Minister, Iyad Allawi, before the US Congress that 14 or 15 out of Iraq's 18 provinces "are completely safe."

"The truth is exactly the reverse," said a lorry driver, Abu Akil, as he queued for diesel yesterday. "There are 15 provinces which are dangerous and only the three Kurdish provinces in the north are OK. This speech was designed to be heard Americans and not by Iraqis."

The lorry drivers, desperate to feed their families, take great risks but they admit that many roads are now too dangerous. "The speech was ridiculous," said Maithan Maki. "When Allawi became Prime Minister I was in favour of him but things have got worse and worse." Mr Allawi's visit to the US may be doing him lasting damage in Iraq, reinforcing the impression that he is a pawn and out of touch with real events. Iraqis were aware when the US appointed him interim Prime Minister that he had long been financed by the CIA and MI6, but were prepared to forgive this if he could restore security.

Few people in Iraq know more about security in the country's 18 provinces than its lorry drivers, who run the gauntlet of bandits, US patrols, insurgents and police. "All the roads are dangerous," said Mr Maki. He said that bandits not only stole lorries but often kidnapped drivers and held them for ransom.Akhil Khadum, who has spent 14 years driving lorries in Iraq, said: "This speech is not in touch with reality."

But Mr Allawi's claim is difficult to disprove for the ironical reason that most of Iraq is too dangerous to visit by journalists. This is particularly useful for President George Bush as American network news correspondents can scarcely leave the mini-fortresses in which they live in Baghdad. Large areas of the country are wholly under the control of the resistance, such as Fallujah and the mid-Euphrates regions. All the drivers said they no longer carried cargo for the Americans as they were often stopped by insurgents on the road from Jordan who would look at their manifests to make sure the goods being transported were not going to a US company.

After his visit to the US, Mr Allawi will be even more dependent on Washington. He is likely to ally himselfto the Kurds in January'selections. Otherwise he does not have a political base.




 
Originally posted by: Todd33
Allowi is a Bush puppet. I sure hope he can't run in Jan. ir the whole thing is fixed.

LOL, elections in January. Are there even any candidates??? Oh besides Mr Allawi. Does anyone in Iraq know who they are? When are the debates? 😛 Let me guess, Allawi becomes the only name that anyone can even recognize and wins easily! Democracy at work!
 
WHY do we owe Israel 1000+ dead American Soldiers and $200,000,000,000?

The only terrorists that Saddam supported were those that gave problems to Israel - AND he did'nt offer support to the terrorists - He offered support to the families who lost their child to the war against Israel - because the Israelis would come and destroy the HOME of the WHOLE family if one person became a suicide bomber
 
Way to twist the words. Are you a liberal?

Way to change the subject. Iraq had no involvement in 9/11, and no significant connections to al Qaeda. Period. The Bush administration continually suggested such connections to scare the public into supporting his invasion of Iraq, but they were lying.

It is so amazing that the only people who believed there is a connection between Iraq and 9-11 are Libs. And they only believed this because of this false belief the Administration said there was. Find me a link that has the Bush administration officially stating Iraq was behind 9-11. To this date all I have ever seen or heard is them denying any link between the attacks. But there were terrorist links.

How libs made the jump from them saying there were terrorist links and Iraq was part of 9-11 is a question only the mind of a lib can answer. I still to this day enjoy libs trying to proclaim a stance that the administration has held since days after 9-11.

 
Originally posted by: Genx87
Way to twist the words. Are you a liberal?


Do you think every parent of a suicide bomber knows their child is planning to blow themselves up? Be Honest... and also think about America where most parents don't have a friggin clue what their children are doing after school or in school for that matter.

BTW, why are so many Palestinians living in "refugee" camps where Israel can turn off the water - and why does the Israeli land grow and grow even though there hasn't been another war to give them quasi permission to take more land (spoils of war).
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
k

thanks for going off on a tangent. Honestly what does that have to do with my comment you quoted?


🙂 Sorry.. I started my message before you edited your reply - it was right below mine so I thought you were talking to me ...
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
k

I was a little baffled to be honest 😉 I probably should have noted I was responding to the OPs comments.


If you can't dazzle them with brilliance then baffle them with bullsh!t ?? 😛
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
k

I was a little baffled to be honest 😉 I probably should have noted I was responding to the OPs comments.

What comments are those? I'm the OP.
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
Way to twist the words. Are you a liberal?

Way to change the subject. Iraq had no involvement in 9/11, and no significant connections to al Qaeda. Period. The Bush administration continually suggested such connections to scare the public into supporting his invasion of Iraq, but they were lying.

It is so amazing that the only people who believed there is a connection between Iraq and 9-11 are Libs. And they only believed this because of this false belief the Administration said there was. Find me a link that has the Bush administration officially stating Iraq was behind 9-11. To this date all I have ever seen or heard is them denying any link between the attacks. But there were terrorist links.

How libs made the jump from them saying there were terrorist links and Iraq was part of 9-11 is a question only the mind of a lib can answer. I still to this day enjoy libs trying to proclaim a stance that the administration has held since days after 9-11.
:cookie:

You've dropped whoppers in your day, but that heap of bovine excrement has to be one of your top ten. It is mostly the Bush supporters who believe there's a connection between Iraq and 9/11. That's because Bush and his minions kept suggesting there was a link, over and over and over again. This has been well-documented here many times in the past. That you blatantly choose to ignore this speaks to your level of brainwashing and your overall lack of integrity.
 
Originally posted by: Gravity
It appears that Allawi has no respect or integrity according to the libs on this foreign. Go figure, even when an Iraqi citizen asserts things about his own country, the wisdom of our liberal members is more valid to them than actual, factual testimony.

The fact that he is an Iraqi in no way should be a shield against criticism. Not to put too fine a point on it, but Saddam was also an Iraqi citizen, and I don't think we should have listened to him.

Maybe Allawi actually does represent his country. But I also don't think we should give up trying to find the truth just because Allawi is an Iraqi and apparently this makes it impossible for him to be lying.
 
You've dropped whoppers in your day, but that heap of bovine excrement has to be one of your top ten. It is mostly the Bush supporters who believe there's a connection between Iraq and 9/11. That's because Bush and his minions kept suggesting there was a link, over and over and over again. This has been well-documented here many times in the past. That you blatantly choose to ignore this speaks to your level of brainwashing and your overall lack of integrity.

I also never recall Bush linking Saddam to the 9/11 attacks.
 
Originally posted by: Gravity
It appears that Allawi has no respect or integrity according to the libs on this foreign. Go figure, even when an Iraqi citizen asserts things about his own country, the wisdom of our liberal members is more valid to them than actual, factual testimony.

Zzzzz. Too bad some of our wisdom can't rub off on the likes of you. You should try opening your eyes once in a while Gravity and questioning people like Allawi's motives for painting such an inaccurate picture. But hey, ignorance IS bliss. So you should stay happy for a while longer at least. You are welcome to join the enlightened side any time you are willing to admit Iraq and Bush are failures.
 
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