Its official, 4 year degree needed even for file clerks, minimum wage jobs

[Squisher]

If you had your choice of candidates wouldn't you pick the ones with degrees over the ones without? Even if the job didn't require a degree. There are so many people unemployed or underemployed that it is easy to find people willing to work for less, even though they have a degree.

No, it is actually counter productive because by doing so you will likely be looking for new entry level workers constantly because they will only work for you until a job comes by that pays better.

Would you rather have a courier making $10/hr. without a degree that works for you for 5 years and then jumps ship for a better paying job or hire someone with a degree that is much more up-worldly mobile and leaves after 3 months and you now have to interview, hire, and train a new employee?

 

[Texashiker]

hire someone with a degree that is much more up-worldly mobile and leaves after 3 months and you now have to interview, hire, and train a new employee?

That is exactly right.

Set the benefits to start after 90 days, or even 120 days. That way the company gets out paying benefits.

One company I worked for, our turn over rate was probably close to 50%, if not more within 30 days. Benefits did not start until after 120 days.

 

[Ns1]

No, it is actually counter productive because by doing so you will likely be looking for new entry level workers constantly because they will only work for you until a job comes by that pays better.

Would you rather have a courier making $10/hr. without a degree that works for you for 5 years and then jumps ship for a better paying job or hire someone with a degree that is much more up-worldly mobile and leaves after 3 months and you now have to interview, hire, and train a new employee?

this

 

[Exterous]

Would you rather have a courier making $10/hr. without a degree that works for you for 5 years and then jumps ship for a better paying job or hire someone with a degree that is much more up-worldly mobile and leaves after 3 months and you now have to interview, hire, and train a new employee?

I think it depends on the company. I used to work for a company that believed every job should have a degree holder - even the glorified CSRs. It gave the bloated HR department an excuse to stay bloated and the execs could feel smug about the education level of the company. Being close to a couple of major universities made it very easy to partner with them for job placement and it was just an accepted 'cost of doing business' that certain positions would turn over quickly. They also made the argument that some of the positions required exacting attention to detail and they used the lower positions as a way to 'test drive' the candidates for a possible promotion to the more exacting positions. I don't buy into it but most of the company did and still does

I will admit that they did make an occasional conscious effort to keep and promote those who were actually worth the paper their degree was printed on

 

[pontifex]

but then you run the risk of the people working that lower job leaving as soon as something better comes along. they aren't going to be happy doing that menial job at that low wage.

 

[Train]

 

[fleshconsumed]

No, it is actually counter productive because by doing so you will likely be looking for new entry level workers constantly because they will only work for you until a job comes by that pays better.

Would you rather have a courier making $10/hr. without a degree that works for you for 5 years and then jumps ship for a better paying job or hire someone with a degree that is much more up-worldly mobile and leaves after 3 months and you now have to interview, hire, and train a new employee?

That would normally be the case, but in a situation with high unemployment when it's hard to find another job, people won't have the opportunity to jump to another job as quickly. According to the article in the OP the company does not have a turn over problem, even the messenger guy is grateful to have a job.

 

[BUTCH1]

Some of the biggest morons I've ever worked with have degrees. I would hire people with experience, experience > education.

So true, my boss has a "degree" but has failed at the last two places he worked at, luckily for him he knew our plant director, now he's springing his bozo ideas on us, some our laughable, I've driven a forklift and done logistical support for 16 yrs and this idiot thinks he can tell me a better way, OMG it's a nightmare but I need the $$ so I deal with it and find a way to get the job done..

 

[Vdubchaos]

So true, my boss has a "degree" but has failed at the last two places he worked at, luckily for him he knew our plant director, now he's springing his bozo ideas on us, some our laughable, I've driven a forklift and done logistical support for 16 yrs and this idiot thinks he can tell me a better way, OMG it's a nightmare but I need the $$ so I deal with it and find a way to get the job done..

Yep

My boss has a degree from Yale. None of us here think he is smart enough to graduate high school.

Crazy how some people end up in the positions they are in.

3 careers and over 10 companies (I also deal with 100s of people from top US Corps) and let me tell you, I have absolutely NO idea how some of these people get to where they are.

 

[Red Storm]

Yep

My boss has a degree from Yale. None of us here think he is smart enough to graduate high school.

Crazy how some people end up in the positions they are in.

3 careers and over 10 companies (I also deal with 100s of people from top US Corps) and let me tell you, I have absolutely NO idea how some of these people get to where they are.

Connections, the real world "degree".

 

[Vdubchaos]

Connections, the real world "degree".

For sure

Another thing I noticed.

Harder people work, less they get paid and get less credit. And plenty of slackers that do NOTHING and get ton of money > all the credit > advance.

Shit is just backwards

 

[Ns1]

I dunno. My VP works way longer than anyone else. Work weekends every weekend.