Its official, 4 year degree needed even for file clerks, minimum wage jobs

[Hugo Drax]

My prediction is getting closer. I predict in 15-20 years even a burger flipper or walmart greeter will require a 4 year degree.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100474974


Even for a 10 dollar an hour office courier.

Consider the 45-person law firm of Busch, Slipakoff & Schuh here in Atlanta, a place that has seen tremendous growth in the college-educated population. Like other employers across the country, the firm hires only people with a bachelor's degree, even for jobs that do not require college-level skills.

This prerequisite applies to everyone, including the receptionist, paralegals, administrative assistants and file clerks. Even the office "runner" — the in-house courier who, for $10 an hour, ferries documents back and forth between the courthouse and the office — went to a four-year school.

 

[Imported]

Soon you'll need a masters to get anything more than entry-level.

 

[rsutoratosu]

cuz some people without a college degree can't figure out the right way to handle food or file paperwork.

u wanna hired some guy that can't read, deliver the package to the wrong place and you end up in jail because of that mistake ?

 

[HardcoreRobot]

increased supply

 

[KB]

If you had your choice of candidates wouldn't you pick the ones with degrees over the ones without? Even if the job didn't require a degree. There are so many people unemployed or underemployed that it is easy to find people willing to work for less, even though they have a degree.

 

[Genx87]

You mean when the supply of college degree's is higher than what the market desires? The value of the degree falls?

Shocked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Texashiker]

If you had your choice of candidates wouldn't you pick the ones with degrees over the ones without? Even if the job didn't require a degree. There are so many people unemployed or underemployed that it is easy to find people willing to work for less, even though they have a degree.

People without a degree may not understand they are being exploited.

 

[SunnyD]

To be honest, for a legal file clerk I don't see the issue here. A 2 or 4 year degree - just shows that this person took the time to invest in themselves and should therefore be more trustworthy to entrust tasks to than some schmuck that doesn't give a shit about their future.

 

[BlitzPuppet]

Yeah, this applies mostly to people with 0 work related Experience.

A lot of college graduates are fucking morons, field/work related experience reigns supreme. Like the article says, this is just another way to weed out/filter the huge influx of resumes.

 

[lxskllr]

If you had your choice of candidates wouldn't you pick the ones with degrees over the ones without? Even if the job didn't require a degree. There are so many people unemployed or underemployed that it is easy to find people willing to work for less, even though they have a degree.

No. I put little value in a degree. I'd hire the person I thought was the best fit for the job.

 

[BoomerD]

I started seeing this in 2009. Companies hiring for simple bookkeeping jobs demanded Bachelor's degrees in accounting...and having no shortage of applicants for those $12/hr jobs.

 

[dmcowen674]

Consider the 45-person law firm of Busch, Slipakoff & Schuh here in Atlanta

This prerequisite applies to everyone, including the receptionist, paralegals, administrative assistants and file clerks. Even the office "runner" — the in-house courier who, for $10 an hour, ferries documents back and forth between the courthouse and the office — went to a four-year school.

Hopefully the fucktards go out of business as soon as possible.

 

[Hugo Drax]

No. I put little value in a degree. I'd hire the person I thought was the best fit for the job.

They need to do it to reduce the HR department workload.

#1 Toilet scrubber job no degree needed. 100,000 applicants. HR overloaded.

#2 Tolet scrubber job 4 year degree needed. 25,000 applicants. Less load on the HR department.

Thats why in the future even the Walmart greeter job will require a 4 year degree.


Due to technology, outsourcing, advanced health and longer lifespans we have a glut of humans and not enough productive jobs for them.

 

[lxskllr]

They need to do it to reduce the HR department workload.

#1 Toilet scrubber job no degree needed. 100,000 applicants. HR overloaded.

#2 Tolet scrubber job 4 year degree needed. 25,000 applicants. Less load on the HR department.

Thats why in the future even the Walmart greeter job will require a 4 year degree.


Due to technology, outsourcing, advanced health and longer lifespans we have a glut of humans and not enough productive jobs for them.

You don't need to view all 100,000 applicants for toilet scrubber. If HR can't quickly scan over resumes, take the first 100 that look decent, and then find a good candidate, their employer should have put more care in hiring, and not blindly accepted a degree as proof of competence.

 

[Farang]

I interviewed for a file clerk position after college, what a joke. I think I got passed on because I came across as interviewing for a position above me.. i.e. I talked about interest in the legal field etc. Like I really went to college to be a $10/hr file clerk are you kidding

 

[Saint Nick]

I stayed in school so I could qualify for internships and gather work experience. It sucked but it has payed off now.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Don't see the issue with the OP's example. If I was hiring, I would want the most educated people I could get.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Education does not equate to knowledge. The school I went to was god awful and the only good thing I got out of it was the paper saying I had a degree. Fortunately my experience greatly made up for the lack of any real education.

I have to imagine there are lots of people in a similar situation, but without the experience to back it up.

 

[KlokWyze]

I interviewed for a file clerk position after college, what a joke. I think I got passed on because I came across as interviewing for a position above me.. i.e. I talked about interest in the legal field etc. Like I really went to college to be a $10/hr file clerk are you kidding

Right, so you didn't really want the job that you were interviewing for. Makes sense they wouldn't give you the job.

 

[QueBert]

Don't see the issue with the OP's example. If I was hiring, I would want the most educated people I could get.

Some of the biggest morons I've ever worked with have degrees. I would hire people with experience, experience > education.

 

[Red Storm]

My employer must not have gotten the memo.

Thankfully the IT industry isn't so rigid/stupid.

 

[KlokWyze]

My employer must not have gotten the memo.

Thankfully the IT industry isn't so rigid/stupid.

Ugh.... that depends on the company.

 

[Red Storm]

Ugh.... that depends on the company.

Very true, but in my experience the companies I've had experience with have not been stuck in the past.

 

[Farang]

Right, so you didn't really want the job that you were interviewing for. Makes sense they wouldn't give you the job.

Yea but what do you expect.. I guess I was too honest about using it as a pathway to a different career. But any college grad would be doing the same, whether they said so or not

 

[mnewsham]

I started seeing this in 2009. Companies hiring for simple bookkeeping jobs demanded Bachelor's degrees in accounting...and having no shortage of applicants for those $12/hr jobs.

which is why I am now stuck working two $8 hour jobs and still can't afford to finish my 2 year let alone a 4 year degree