It's not always about Firefox.

[JustAnAverageGuy]

Originally posted by: OffTopic
It going to be hard to find a girl when your nose is brown with MS sh!t.

You guys certainly do that fox plenty of favors

 

[intogamer]

Originally posted by: g33k
I use MSN Premium 9 that comes free with verizon dsl. The best thing about it is the offsite favorites list. So even though I reformat windows, my favorites list is stored offsite and never gets deleted.

yeah and email was a click away

 

[QuitBanningMe]

Opera>IE> IE variants> AOL/ netscape> FireFox

 

[Mik3y]

Originally posted by: blurredvision

Originally posted by: tami

Originally posted by: blurredvision
Due to a thread over in the Software forum, I want to officially announce to you Firefox whores that the internet isn't always about your fledgling browser software. If someone wants to discuss IE7 or even the current IE6 or IE5, stay out.

i don't get it.

your first paragraph states that you don't want people to discuss IE at all.

your second paragraph says that your favorite browser, which is made by microsoft, is being made more secure because people who dislike it continue to bash it.

can you please make some more sense?

The first sentence was directed towards Firefox whores. Seeing as to how it was only a 2 sentence paragraph, I figured everyone would understand the second sentence was also aimed at Firefox whores. I'm truely sorry if you get confused after only one sentence in a paragraph.

As for the second paragraph (it's 3 sentences this time, try and keep up), I didn't say IE was being made more secure because people bash it, I said it's because of competition.

Lord knows I tried to make this post as simple as possible. I'd be happy to explain this one as well if you can't comprehend.

Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
Also, on another note can you explain how Firefox is "fledgling"?
It's based off of Netscape, which has been around since before the time of MSIE (though After about MSIE 3.0 I preferred it over Netscape up until Mozilla firebird first came out.)

Just because it's based off an existing platform doesn't mean it's old. Firefox is fledgling, because it still has a long way to go to topple IE from it's throne. If Netscape was so great, why so many offshoot attempts and namechanges to fix it?

people bash it because its insecure; its not insecure because people bash it. get it straight. its a fact that people use firefox because it's FAR more secure. if you dont believe it, lets run a malware check.

 

[BillyBatson]

i still use IE6, i have used others firefox installations and have had it crash on me twice while my IE never crashes on me, also to my understanding you have to install a million add ons to make firefox even remotely like IE
firefox is just one of those things some pc users who considered themselves "power users" or falsely think they are... feel like they are better and know more than those sitll using IE, or foobar instead of winamp, and so on....
however to each his own

can't wait till IE7!

 

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: tami
first of all, i've never said any of those statements that you attribute to "you guys." however, i'm guessing those browsing habits of yours includes only familiar sites of which you have termed "decent sites."

i'm guessing that you do the same thing everyday, and that going to new websites is not part of your daily regimen. that would make sense since you are adamant about and comfortable with what you are currently using, so why should you have to change?

i'm guessing that for you, newer technology is difficult to learn and therefore you refuse to learn it. you like what is familiar, and firefox is unfamiliar.

(side note: with FF, just fyi, you don't need to have 3 windows open at one time ... because TABBED BROWSING exists. and guess who came out first in that race? mozilla. firefox. not the almighty microsoft competitor.)

furthermore, why does it seem that microsoft decided to smarten up to secure their browsers AFTER they had the firefox competition? why didn't they do it beforehand? don't tell me "oh, they always did publish a fix, but they didn't push it out until whatever exploit became well known." that's no excuse. if microsoft sees a vulnerability, it should not wait until the threat becomes serious in order to roll out security patches.

I never said you said any of the statements attributed to "you guys". Once again, you've gotten confused, as it refers to Firefox fanboys. My god, just read it slowly next time. Also, my browsing habits do contain quite a bit regularly visited sites, but is not out of the realm of new sites. You should really quit assuming.

And what's this crap about newer technology being hard for me to learn? I'm not stepping into that, it's a lousy attempt to get me worked up. You don't know me, and probably am only paying attention to my nick for the very first time. You are really showing how ignorant you are by trying to live up to the Firefox fanboy mantra. I've tried Firefox on a couple of occassions, I just don't see the big advantage of using it. I've not once said I didn't like Firefox, I just prefer IE.

As for tabbed browsing, no fyi needed. I know tabbed browsing will get rid of having 3 windows open at one time. But ONCE AGAIN, if you'd freaking read my post, here's what I said: "I rarely have more than 3 IE windows open at any time, afterall I can only read thing at a time." This is why tabbed browsing, again, is of no use to me. Another reason I don't use it.

As for your last paragraph, don't try to get into an arguement about what MS does with security patches. You're trying to bring sh!t into this thread that Firefox fanboys always try to work into the fight. Why does it seem that MS wants to smarten up their browser after the Firefox competition? You said the damn word yourself in your own paragraph. Competition. And had you had the ability to comprehend my original post, you'd see that I'm glad Firefox exists for that very reason. I agree that any fixes to exploits need to be fixed immediately, but I'm guessing that you know nothing of MS policy, and you are only repeating what you've read here previously.

I really wish you'd give up your tirade. You are a prime example of why I started this thread in the first place.

 

[Mucho]

Falme bait!

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: eigen

Originally posted by: blurredvision
Due to a thread over in the Software forum, I want to officially announce to you Firefox whores that the internet isn't always about your fledgling browser software. If someone wants to discuss IE7 or even the current IE6 or IE5, stay out.

In order to not have to respond to those who will respond negatively, the only thing I care about Firefox is that it is competition. It's making Microsoft beef up my favorite browser and make it more secure, so I salute you anal MS/IE bashers for just that one thing. All other trolling needs to be toned down.

That is all.

you sound like you need to get laid.

yeh hes a little anal retentive himself....

he definatly needs a woman.

 

[tami]

Originally posted by: blurredvision

Originally posted by: tami
first of all, i've never said any of those statements that you attribute to "you guys." however, i'm guessing those browsing habits of yours includes only familiar sites of which you have termed "decent sites."

i'm guessing that you do the same thing everyday, and that going to new websites is not part of your daily regimen. that would make sense since you are adamant about and comfortable with what you are currently using, so why should you have to change?

i'm guessing that for you, newer technology is difficult to learn and therefore you refuse to learn it. you like what is familiar, and firefox is unfamiliar.

(side note: with FF, just fyi, you don't need to have 3 windows open at one time ... because TABBED BROWSING exists. and guess who came out first in that race? mozilla. firefox. not the almighty microsoft competitor.)

furthermore, why does it seem that microsoft decided to smarten up to secure their browsers AFTER they had the firefox competition? why didn't they do it beforehand? don't tell me "oh, they always did publish a fix, but they didn't push it out until whatever exploit became well known." that's no excuse. if microsoft sees a vulnerability, it should not wait until the threat becomes serious in order to roll out security patches.

I never said you said any of the statements attributed to "you guys". Once again, you've gotten confused, as it refers to Firefox fanboys. My god, just read it slowly next time. Also, my browsing habits do contain quite a bit regularly visited sites, but is not out of the realm of new sites. You should really quit assuming.

And what's this crap about newer technology being hard for me to learn? I'm not stepping into that, it's a lousy attempt to get me worked up. You don't know me, and probably am only paying attention to my nick for the very first time. You are really showing how ignorant you are by trying to live up to the Firefox fanboy mantra. I've tried Firefox on a couple of occassions, I just don't see the big advantage of using it. I've not once said I didn't like Firefox, I just prefer IE.

As for tabbed browsing, no fyi needed. I know tabbed browsing will get rid of having 3 windows open at one time. But ONCE AGAIN, if you'd freaking read my post, here's what I said: "I rarely have more than 3 IE windows open at any time, afterall I can only read thing at a time." This is why tabbed browsing, again, is of no use to me. Another reason I don't use it.

As for your last paragraph, don't try to get into an arguement about what MS does with security patches. You're trying to bring sh!t into this thread that Firefox fanboys always try to work into the fight. Why does it seem that MS wants to smarten up their browser after the Firefox competition? You said the damn word yourself in your own paragraph. Competition. And had you had the ability to comprehend my original post, you'd see that I'm glad Firefox exists for that very reason. I agree that any fixes to exploits need to be fixed immediately, but I'm guessing that you know nothing of MS policy, and you are only repeating what you've read here previously.

I really wish you'd give up your tirade. You are a prime example of why I started this thread in the first place.

you underestimate my knowledge of people on this forum. i've seen you before; i just thought you were smarter than to post a threat that begged such responses as mine.

tabbed browsing is useful for those who multitask. i actually use it all the time, as i refer to multiple pages when writing up documentation and for addressing very difficult technical support issues that may need multiple web pages for reference.

as for my use of the word "competition," i only used it since you did in your original post. as you said, and i quote, "the only thing I care about Firefox is that it is competition." i think we both agree that microsoft is feeling pressured by firefox and is now trying to be quicker to fix security holes and the like. the sad part is that they didn't seem to do so beforehand.

as for my knowing "nothing of MS policy" and learning everything "here previously," that is incorrect. in almost every famous MS virus outbreak, MS usually releases patches prior to the exploit being taken advantage of, but nobody really knows about these fixes because it is not advertised -- until the outbreak gets pretty serious. i could point you to several pages that describe such activity on behalf of microsoft, but i'm late to work -- so i'll provide them for you later if you're really interested.

one more thing: i'm not a "fanboy" (or fangirl for that matter). my first response in this thread was confusion because you were not clear in your wording of your OP (and it doesn't appear that i'm the only one who thought so). it only led to this discussion because you had to continually insult my intelligence in saying that i lack the ability to comprehend your posts. i could care less what browser you're using, although my point in responding was to illustrate that there are flaws in microsoft's thought process -- and to point out some benefits of firefox. you really did not have to make a post about it, as you should have predicted the responses from some of us.

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: tami

Originally posted by: blurredvision

Originally posted by: tami
first of all, i've never said any of those statements that you attribute to "you guys." however, i'm guessing those browsing habits of yours includes only familiar sites of which you have termed "decent sites."

i'm guessing that you do the same thing everyday, and that going to new websites is not part of your daily regimen. that would make sense since you are adamant about and comfortable with what you are currently using, so why should you have to change?

i'm guessing that for you, newer technology is difficult to learn and therefore you refuse to learn it. you like what is familiar, and firefox is unfamiliar.

(side note: with FF, just fyi, you don't need to have 3 windows open at one time ... because TABBED BROWSING exists. and guess who came out first in that race? mozilla. firefox. not the almighty microsoft competitor.)

furthermore, why does it seem that microsoft decided to smarten up to secure their browsers AFTER they had the firefox competition? why didn't they do it beforehand? don't tell me "oh, they always did publish a fix, but they didn't push it out until whatever exploit became well known." that's no excuse. if microsoft sees a vulnerability, it should not wait until the threat becomes serious in order to roll out security patches.

I never said you said any of the statements attributed to "you guys". Once again, you've gotten confused, as it refers to Firefox fanboys. My god, just read it slowly next time. Also, my browsing habits do contain quite a bit regularly visited sites, but is not out of the realm of new sites. You should really quit assuming.

And what's this crap about newer technology being hard for me to learn? I'm not stepping into that, it's a lousy attempt to get me worked up. You don't know me, and probably am only paying attention to my nick for the very first time. You are really showing how ignorant you are by trying to live up to the Firefox fanboy mantra. I've tried Firefox on a couple of occassions, I just don't see the big advantage of using it. I've not once said I didn't like Firefox, I just prefer IE.

As for tabbed browsing, no fyi needed. I know tabbed browsing will get rid of having 3 windows open at one time. But ONCE AGAIN, if you'd freaking read my post, here's what I said: "I rarely have more than 3 IE windows open at any time, afterall I can only read thing at a time." This is why tabbed browsing, again, is of no use to me. Another reason I don't use it.

As for your last paragraph, don't try to get into an arguement about what MS does with security patches. You're trying to bring sh!t into this thread that Firefox fanboys always try to work into the fight. Why does it seem that MS wants to smarten up their browser after the Firefox competition? You said the damn word yourself in your own paragraph. Competition. And had you had the ability to comprehend my original post, you'd see that I'm glad Firefox exists for that very reason. I agree that any fixes to exploits need to be fixed immediately, but I'm guessing that you know nothing of MS policy, and you are only repeating what you've read here previously.

I really wish you'd give up your tirade. You are a prime example of why I started this thread in the first place.

you underestimate my knowledge of people on this forum. i've seen you before; i just thought you were smarter than to post a threat that begged such responses as mine.

tabbed browsing is useful for those who multitask. i actually use it all the time, as i refer to multiple pages when writing up documentation and for addressing very difficult technical support issues that may need multiple web pages for reference.

as for my use of the word "competition," i only used it since you did in your original post. as you said, and i quote, "the only thing I care about Firefox is that it is competition." i think we both agree that microsoft is feeling pressured by firefox and is now trying to be quicker to fix security holes and the like. the sad part is that they didn't seem to do so beforehand.

as for my knowing "nothing of MS policy" and learning everything "here previously," that is incorrect. in almost every famous MS virus outbreak, MS usually releases patches prior to the exploit being taken advantage of, but nobody really knows about these fixes because it is not advertised -- until the outbreak gets pretty serious. i could point you to several pages that describe such activity on behalf of microsoft, but i'm late to work -- so i'll provide them for you later if you're really interested.

one more thing: i'm not a "fanboy" (or fangirl for that matter). my first response in this thread was confusion because you were not clear in your wording of your OP (and it doesn't appear that i'm the only one who thought so). it only led to this discussion because you had to continually insult my intelligence in saying that i lack the ability to comprehend your posts. i could care less what browser you're using, although my point in responding was to illustrate that there are flaws in microsoft's thought process -- and to point out some benefits of firefox. you really did not have to make a post about it, as you should have predicted the responses from some of us.

good post..

 

[mi xiao]

Originally posted by: RossMAN
I only use IE when I am forced to which happens when:

1) I'm at work.

:thumbsup:

i can't live without tabbed browsing. i don't know what i did before it and what people are doing now without it!

firefox gets all the b1tches.

 

[kd2777]

Originally posted by: tami


one more thing: i'm not a "fanboy" (or fangirl for that matter). my first response in this thread was confusion because you were not clear in your wording of your OP (and it doesn't appear that i'm the only one who thought so). it only led to this discussion because you had to continually insult my intelligence in saying that i lack the ability to comprehend your posts. i could care less what browser you're using, although my point in responding was to illustrate that there are flaws in microsoft's thought process -- and to point out some benefits of firefox. you really did not have to make a post about it, as you should have predicted the responses from some of us.

Personally his OP was perfectly clear. I assume you where flipping through to many webpages to pay attention.

- 1st he said if anyone wanted to talk about IE software (specifically 5-7) that was OK, and that you " firefox whores" should leave them alone.

-2nd he said, he knew there was going to be backlash from the "fire fox whores" ( I guess that would be you ), but he didn't care because your firefox was enough competition that it made MS work to make IE better.

-3rd he said, that is all



cliffs if you need them, IE rocks firefox sucks balls!!!!!111!!1!11one!!!!11!1!!pwnage!!!1!1



j/k

cliffs would be, why if someone has a question about about IE7 or 6 in software do you FF whores have to come in and troll. Basically STFU not every post is about your FF nor an opertunity for you to try to convert other people. We all are computer savy enough to learn a new browser (it isn't rocket science,tami, that comment that he couldn't learn a new browser was stupid, good going ass) we just like IE6 better.



kd

 

[tami]

you have a personal opinion that his post was "perfectly clear." read other comments in this thread. i was not the only one who didn't know what he was saying.

second, and i could reiterate this point 30 more times if you didn't get the full clarification from me the last 4 times or so, in response to your "he didn't care because your firefox was enough competition that it made MS work to make IE better," i still will say the same thing i said before: microsoft should have been more responsible BEFORE there was competition. no wonder so many people switched over. it forced microsoft to get its act together.

if you really think i'm out to convert people to FF, you're horribly wrong. i'm not "FF whore." as i said before, and i'll say it again, i could care less what browser one is using. i only responded because blurredvision insulted my intelligence merely because i asked for a clarification on what he was trying to say. apparently, i asked a question that was on other people's minds as well.

are you going to resort to name calling just because i have an opinion? grow up, kd2777.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Firefox is the shizzle yo!

Wish I could use it at work.

 

[kd2777]

Originally posted by: tami
you have a personal opinion that his post was "perfectly clear." read other comments in this thread. i was not the only one who didn't know what he was saying.

second, and i could reiterate this point 30 more times if you didn't get the full clarification from me the last 4 times or so, in response to your "he didn't care because your firefox was enough competition that it made MS work to make IE better," i still will say the same thing i said before: microsoft should have been more responsible BEFORE there was competition. no wonder so many people switched over. it forced microsoft to get its act together.

if you really think i'm out to convert people to FF, you're horribly wrong. i'm not "FF whore." as i said before, and i'll say it again, i could care less what browser one is using. i only responded because blurredvision insulted my intelligence merely because i asked for a clarification on what he was trying to say. apparently, i asked a question that was on other people's minds as well.

are you going to resort to name calling just because i have an opinion? grow up, kd2777.

nice......

You must have trouble reading, I called you an ass because you said he didn't have to ablity to understand new technology. How is that an opinion? You don't know him...that makes it an assumption.

kd

ps if you don't care what browser he uses, then STFU.

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: eigen

Originally posted by: blurredvision
Due to a thread over in the Software forum, I want to officially announce to you Firefox whores that the internet isn't always about your fledgling browser software. If someone wants to discuss IE7 or even the current IE6 or IE5, stay out.

In order to not have to respond to those who will respond negatively, the only thing I care about Firefox is that it is competition. It's making Microsoft beef up my favorite browser and make it more secure, so I salute you anal MS/IE bashers for just that one thing. All other trolling needs to be toned down.

That is all.

you sound like you need to get laid.

Originally posted by: mi xiao

Originally posted by: RossMAN
I only use IE when I am forced to which happens when:

1) I'm at work.

:thumbsup:

i can't live without tabbed browsing. i don't know what i did before it and what people are doing now without it!

firefox gets all the b1tches.

Thats why the OP needs to get laid so bad. All the women are instantly turned off when they see that he uses IE

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: dwell
IE still sucks.

I agree


Ausm

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: dwell
IE still sucks.

I agree


Ausm

QFT!!

 

[tami]

Originally posted by: kd2777

Originally posted by: tami
you have a personal opinion that his post was "perfectly clear." read other comments in this thread. i was not the only one who didn't know what he was saying.

second, and i could reiterate this point 30 more times if you didn't get the full clarification from me the last 4 times or so, in response to your "he didn't care because your firefox was enough competition that it made MS work to make IE better," i still will say the same thing i said before: microsoft should have been more responsible BEFORE there was competition. no wonder so many people switched over. it forced microsoft to get its act together.

if you really think i'm out to convert people to FF, you're horribly wrong. i'm not "FF whore." as i said before, and i'll say it again, i could care less what browser one is using. i only responded because blurredvision insulted my intelligence merely because i asked for a clarification on what he was trying to say. apparently, i asked a question that was on other people's minds as well.

are you going to resort to name calling just because i have an opinion? grow up, kd2777.

nice......

You must have trouble reading, I called you an ass because you said he didn't have to ablity to understand new technology. How is that an opinion? You don't know him...that makes it an assumption.

kd

ps if you don't care what browser he uses, then STFU.

this argument can get completely circular, so i'm just going to make my final points.

i never said he didn't have the ability to try new technology. from what i read, i came to the assumption that he probably is one of those types that prefers the status quo and dislikes change (this is why i repeatedly emphasized the words "i'm guessing"). however, the fact that you resort to name calling from my statement is immature. we're having a discussion here, not a fight. don't turn it into an attack. i'm definitely not attacking the OP. i am simply pointing out that i am of the opinion that his opinion is flawed (we're a very opinionated bunch today). that doesn't mean he's a bad person. that just means that we have a single point upon which we disagree.

before you post here, make sure to make one distinction clear: we're arguing on a point. we're not attacking each other. therefore, don't turn it into one.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Firefox is the shizzle yo!

Wish I could use it at work.

What/who prevents you?

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Firefox is the shizzle yo!

Wish I could use it at work.

What/who prevents you?

Active Directory permissions....
only 5 development boxes have FF were I work..
they are testing it...
biggest downfall so far is it doesnt play nice with Citrix..

 

[kd2777]

Originally posted by: tami

Originally posted by: kd2777

Originally posted by: tami
you have a personal opinion that his post was "perfectly clear." read other comments in this thread. i was not the only one who didn't know what he was saying.

second, and i could reiterate this point 30 more times if you didn't get the full clarification from me the last 4 times or so, in response to your "he didn't care because your firefox was enough competition that it made MS work to make IE better," i still will say the same thing i said before: microsoft should have been more responsible BEFORE there was competition. no wonder so many people switched over. it forced microsoft to get its act together.

if you really think i'm out to convert people to FF, you're horribly wrong. i'm not "FF whore." as i said before, and i'll say it again, i could care less what browser one is using. i only responded because blurredvision insulted my intelligence merely because i asked for a clarification on what he was trying to say. apparently, i asked a question that was on other people's minds as well.

are you going to resort to name calling just because i have an opinion? grow up, kd2777.

nice......

You must have trouble reading, I called you an ass because you said he didn't have to ablity to understand new technology. How is that an opinion? You don't know him...that makes it an assumption.

kd

ps if you don't care what browser he uses, then STFU.

this argument can get completely circular, so i'm just going to make my final points.

i never said he didn't have the ability to try new technology. from what i read, i came to the assumption that he probably is one of those types that prefers the status quo and dislikes change (this is why i repeatedly emphasized the words "i'm guessing"). however, the fact that you resort to name calling from my statement is immature. we're having a discussion here, not a fight. don't turn it into an attack. i'm definitely not attacking the OP. i am simply pointing out that i am of the opinion that his opinion is flawed (we're a very opinionated bunch today). that doesn't mean he's a bad person. that just means that we have a single point upon which we disagree.

before you post here, make sure to make one distinction clear: we're arguing on a point. we're not attacking each other. therefore, don't turn it into one.

And I think you have a big flaw with your opinion as well, assuming he isn't technologically advanced enough to work a new browser is very little of you. And if I see you picking on someone for that I will point it out. His post was how much he liked IE, his post was how much he hated you FF whores coming into a IE7 thread and trolling your FF crap around. That was his post, how you brought up that his like for IE is faulty/flawed is where you messed up. That wasn't his post. I think you need to get back on topic.

I'm not attacking you personally, just your comments. If it offens you then I am sorry. I'm oppinionated too.

kd

ps if this has upset you, tell your new husband I'm sorry, cause I figure your not putting out tonight.

 

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: tami

Originally posted by: blurredvision

Originally posted by: tami
first of all, i've never said any of those statements that you attribute to "you guys." however, i'm guessing those browsing habits of yours includes only familiar sites of which you have termed "decent sites."

i'm guessing that you do the same thing everyday, and that going to new websites is not part of your daily regimen. that would make sense since you are adamant about and comfortable with what you are currently using, so why should you have to change?

i'm guessing that for you, newer technology is difficult to learn and therefore you refuse to learn it. you like what is familiar, and firefox is unfamiliar.

(side note: with FF, just fyi, you don't need to have 3 windows open at one time ... because TABBED BROWSING exists. and guess who came out first in that race? mozilla. firefox. not the almighty microsoft competitor.)

furthermore, why does it seem that microsoft decided to smarten up to secure their browsers AFTER they had the firefox competition? why didn't they do it beforehand? don't tell me "oh, they always did publish a fix, but they didn't push it out until whatever exploit became well known." that's no excuse. if microsoft sees a vulnerability, it should not wait until the threat becomes serious in order to roll out security patches.

I never said you said any of the statements attributed to "you guys". Once again, you've gotten confused, as it refers to Firefox fanboys. My god, just read it slowly next time. Also, my browsing habits do contain quite a bit regularly visited sites, but is not out of the realm of new sites. You should really quit assuming.

And what's this crap about newer technology being hard for me to learn? I'm not stepping into that, it's a lousy attempt to get me worked up. You don't know me, and probably am only paying attention to my nick for the very first time. You are really showing how ignorant you are by trying to live up to the Firefox fanboy mantra. I've tried Firefox on a couple of occassions, I just don't see the big advantage of using it. I've not once said I didn't like Firefox, I just prefer IE.

As for tabbed browsing, no fyi needed. I know tabbed browsing will get rid of having 3 windows open at one time. But ONCE AGAIN, if you'd freaking read my post, here's what I said: "I rarely have more than 3 IE windows open at any time, afterall I can only read thing at a time." This is why tabbed browsing, again, is of no use to me. Another reason I don't use it.

As for your last paragraph, don't try to get into an arguement about what MS does with security patches. You're trying to bring sh!t into this thread that Firefox fanboys always try to work into the fight. Why does it seem that MS wants to smarten up their browser after the Firefox competition? You said the damn word yourself in your own paragraph. Competition. And had you had the ability to comprehend my original post, you'd see that I'm glad Firefox exists for that very reason. I agree that any fixes to exploits need to be fixed immediately, but I'm guessing that you know nothing of MS policy, and you are only repeating what you've read here previously.

I really wish you'd give up your tirade. You are a prime example of why I started this thread in the first place.

you underestimate my knowledge of people on this forum. i've seen you before; i just thought you were smarter than to post a threat that begged such responses as mine.

tabbed browsing is useful for those who multitask. i actually use it all the time, as i refer to multiple pages when writing up documentation and for addressing very difficult technical support issues that may need multiple web pages for reference.

as for my use of the word "competition," i only used it since you did in your original post. as you said, and i quote, "the only thing I care about Firefox is that it is competition." i think we both agree that microsoft is feeling pressured by firefox and is now trying to be quicker to fix security holes and the like. the sad part is that they didn't seem to do so beforehand.

as for my knowing "nothing of MS policy" and learning everything "here previously," that is incorrect. in almost every famous MS virus outbreak, MS usually releases patches prior to the exploit being taken advantage of, but nobody really knows about these fixes because it is not advertised -- until the outbreak gets pretty serious. i could point you to several pages that describe such activity on behalf of microsoft, but i'm late to work -- so i'll provide them for you later if you're really interested.

one more thing: i'm not a "fanboy" (or fangirl for that matter). my first response in this thread was confusion because you were not clear in your wording of your OP (and it doesn't appear that i'm the only one who thought so). it only led to this discussion because you had to continually insult my intelligence in saying that i lack the ability to comprehend your posts. i could care less what browser you're using, although my point in responding was to illustrate that there are flaws in microsoft's thought process -- and to point out some benefits of firefox. you really did not have to make a post about it, as you should have predicted the responses from some of us.

I never posted a threat. Just a statement. And just because I posted something like this doesn't mean I didn't expect to get responses such as yours. However, I'll be honest in not understanding how in the hell you could not understand my original post. I'm guessing (like you), in your IE-hatin' rage that you posted that to hopefully bash me indirectly. It backfired, and you had to stick with that arguement for the fear of looking stupid in front of your internet peers.

As for tabbed browsing, quit bringing it up. I've already indirectly stated that tabbed browsing is great for those who can take advantage of it. I don't, so I don't care about it.

As for the whole Microsoft policy thing, I don't know any facts on what you are claiming, so I'm not going to get into that. All I see is that they do, infact, fix security holes. Maybe they don't know about them until they are exploited? Maybe MS needs to get a team together to look for this stuff more frequently, who knows? The way I see it, the whole MS bashing thing over security issues is attributed to one thing. Installed user base. Why would someone look for security holes and write viruses for an OS or browser that only 5% of the userbase uses? Defeats the whole purpose. I think Firefox has a decent amount of security holes as well, only it's pointless to look for them, as people who try to scam by exploiting them are trying to scam the most people possible. Firefox, right now, isn't the way to go. If you had 20 people, 18 of which used IE6, and you were trying to scam them, why would you go after the 2 that use Firefox? That's my own personal opinion.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Firefox is the shizzle yo!

Wish I could use it at work.

What/who prevents you?

Active Directory permissions....
only 5 development boxes have FF were I work..
they are testing it...
biggest downfall so far is it doesnt play nice with Citrix..

How does that work? IE is our "official" browser, but I just install FF, load up the proxy settings and go.

I still have to use IE for our time-entry and Defect Logging systems, but I use FF for everything else.

 

[CVSiN]

We keep everything VERY locked down...
if the application cannot be installed via netinstaller (which uses AD) you cannot install without a god (admin level DT) password...
keeps all the boxes standard..
most users cannot save anything to anywhere on C: except "my docs" or desktop no write privs to C:..