It's Here. ACA.

[ZaneNBK]

Meanwhile, over at the Healthcare.gov site:

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

I got this:

Health Insurance Marketplace: Please wait

We have a lot of visitors on our site right now and we're working to make your experience here better. Please wait here until we send you to the login page. Thanks for your patience!

 

[conehead433]

I couldn't get the security questions to come up in FF, Chrome or IE. I did get a blank box to come up in IE.

 

[ZaneNBK]

I got this:

Health Insurance Marketplace: Please wait

We have a lot of visitors on our site right now and we're working to make your experience here better. Please wait here until we send you to the login page. Thanks for your patience!

Yeah, that's their load limiter, when the primary servers get under the specified load you'll be redirected to the right page where you can login/sign up. Generally that works until the security questions page. The security questions page has been broken for hours now and no longer works in any browser, the questions don't load. They're loading the questions dynamically from a web service and that web service errors out.

What seems odd to me is that they have a load limiter in place to keep the main servers under a specific load, yet they set the limit higher than their servers can handle. Seems like they should dial that limit down until the issues are resolved. Sure, it might take a long time to get into the site if they do that, but at least once you're in it should work properly.

 

[First]

Politico quotes HHS as saying over 1M visitors to Healthcare.gov in last 24 hours.

 

[ivwshane]

Good point! Dems incessantly bitched and moaned about Medicare Part D for years and years...and when they finally got control of the Executive and Legislative branches what did they do about it? Nada. Zip. Zilch.

In reality, their outrage had nothing to do the Medicare Part D and everything to do with Bush and Republicans. Only one difference...and it's a big difference...if Republicans controlled the Executive and Legislative branches...they wouldn't be fucking hypocrites about it...Obamacare would be gone in a New York minute!

What did they do about it? Well they fixed an otherwise successful program by removing the "donut hole". Or did you not remember that part?

I know it must be crazy for you to think that politicians actually try and fix/improve things and not just obstruct and whine. What are the republicans offering up to fix the problems they see with the ACA?

 

[Matt1970]

Meanwhile, over at the Healthcare.gov site:

Wow, that is one massive page to have to load.

 

[Matt1970]

What did they do about it? Well they fixed an otherwise successful program by removing the "donut hole". Or did you not remember that part?

I know it must be crazy for you to think that politicians actually try and fix/improve things and not just obstruct and whine. What are the republicans offering up to fix the problems they see with the ACA?

They offered up to delay the individal mandate for a year while allowing enrolement and everything else to continue.

 

[ivwshane]

They offered up to delay the individal mandate for a year while allowing enrolement and everything else to continue.

How does a delay fix the issue? Btw, what is the issue they are trying to fix?

 

[First]

They offered up to delay the individal mandate for a year while allowing enrolement and everything else to continue.

Disingenuous of course, given that Repubs and many conservatives don't want ACA to survive period, with absolutely zero evidence they won't request another delay 1 year from now.

 

[ivwshane]

Disingenuous of course, given that Repubs and many conservatives don't want ACA to survive period, with absolutely zero evidence they won't request another delay 1 year from now.

Hey now! He believes that republicans are making such demands to fix the ACA, let's let him answer the questions I asked, I'm sure we will get an honest answer.

 

[blackangst1]

Out of curiosity I tried to create an account and get a quote...but after 3 times of getting "your answers to security questions are invalid", I gave up.

 

[ZaneNBK]

Out of curiosity I tried to create an account and get a quote...but after 3 times of getting "your answers to security questions are invalid", I gave up.

The NSA knows the correct answers and they're checking. Stop getting them wrong.

 

[blackangst1]

The NSA knows the correct answers and they're checking. Stop getting them wrong.

I even tried using 3 different sets of questions each time no go.

 

[ZaneNBK]

I even tried using 3 different sets of questions each time no go.

Yup. When I've gotten that far I either get that error or a generic can't create account error.

 

[jackstar7]

Why are people who do not need this site trying to use it?

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

What did they do about it? Well they fixed an otherwise successful program by removing the "donut hole". Or did you not remember that part?

I know it must be crazy for you to think that politicians actually try and fix/improve things and not just obstruct and whine. What are the republicans offering up to fix the problems they see with the ACA?

They weren't bitching and moaning about the "donut hole" Einstein.

Anyway, if the "donut hole" was fixed so well, why are so many people still falling into it?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/21/us-column-miller-medicare-idUSBRE91K13J20130221

 

[ZaneNBK]

Why are people who do not need this site trying to use it?

Some are probably checking out the options to compare to what they already have but I would bet the majority checking it out either actually need the insurance or are looking for the opt out options.

In my case I have to use it and have to select a new plan by the end of the year as my current state sponsored plan ends at that point as the program was terminated due to ACA supplanting it. Basically the plan on I'm now was for people unable to get employer-provided or private insurance.

 

[jackstar7]

Some are probably checking out the options to compare to what they already have but I would bet the majority checking it out either actually need the insurance or are looking for the opt out options.

In my case I have to use it and have to select a new plan by the end of the year as my current state sponsored plan ends at that point as the program was terminated due to ACA supplanting it. Basically the plan on I'm now was for people unable to get employer-provided or private insurance.

You just explained reasons why people who do need the info are using the site.

That's not the group I have problems understanding...

 

[ZaneNBK]

You just explained reasons why people who do need the info are using the site.

That's not the group I have problems understanding...

I'm not sure why you think there's a significant group of people that don't need the site trying to use it. I'm sure there are some but I doubt it's in numbers that matter.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

You just explained reasons why people who do need the info are using the site.

That's not the group I have problems understanding...

Everyone (regardless of having good work plans already) wants to know how their monthly payments for their insurance compares to ACA monthly costs. Simply a matter of a debate of savings.

 

[ivwshane]

They weren't bitching and moaning about the "donut hole" Einstein.

Anyway, if the "donut hole" was fixed so well, why are so

many people still falling into it?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/21/us-column-miller-medicare-idUSBRE91K13J20130221

Lol! Did you even read the fucking article you linked to? Are you stupid or just ALWAYS disingenuous?

The donut hole entry point isn't related to the ACA at all. It is determined by a formula tied to per-capita total Part D drug expenses - that 4 percent decline. Meanwhile, the out-of-pocket maximum is determined by the ACA and it also will be smaller next year - $4,550, down $200. Overall, the size of the donut hole shrinks by $80.

"More people could reach the coverage gap next year, but there will be better coverage in the gap once you get there," says Tricia Neuman, vice president of Kaiser and director of the foundation's Medicare policy work.

 

[Sonikku]

It would have been cheaper for me if people with preexisting conditions were left to die but my premiums stayed the same. What interest is it of mine if someone I've never met gets denied treatment?

 

[Matt1970]

How does a delay fix the issue? Btw, what is the issue they are trying to fix?

Did you see the website issues? That's just the tip of the iceberg. Obama felt it necessary to delay the business mandate and there are a hell of a lot less businesses with 50+ uninsured employees than the 48 million uninsured Americans. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

 

[Matt1970]

Disingenuous of course, given that Repubs and many conservatives don't want ACA to survive period, with absolutely zero evidence they won't request another delay 1 year from now.

Well that's what compromise is all about. We need to tell that to Obama and Reid.