It would be cool if they found Noah's Ark...

[StormRider]

Originally posted by: DougK62

Originally posted by: azazyel

Originally posted by: DougK62
It's sad that people are wasting so many resources on something so stupid. They could be using their time to do something that can actually help the world and be meaningful...

Umm, right. Just because it has some religious significance means that it couldn't have any archaeological significance? I bet finding those tombs in Egypt were a waste of time as well?

I didn't say anything about religion or archaeology. If the ark was found it'd be very significant to both of those areas. The problem is that they're looking at the top of a 16,000 foot mountain. The only boat that'd be up there is one dropped from a plane.

Even if it isn't a boat (which is highly unlikely), finding any large man-made structure on top of a 16,000 ft mountain would be pretty cool! Or it could be the remains of an alien space ship that crashed!

 

[DougK62]

Originally posted by: StormRider

Originally posted by: DougK62

Originally posted by: azazyel

Originally posted by: DougK62
It's sad that people are wasting so many resources on something so stupid. They could be using their time to do something that can actually help the world and be meaningful...

Umm, right. Just because it has some religious significance means that it couldn't have any archaeological significance? I bet finding those tombs in Egypt were a waste of time as well?

I didn't say anything about religion or archaeology. If the ark was found it'd be very significant to both of those areas. The problem is that they're looking at the top of a 16,000 foot mountain. The only boat that'd be up there is one dropped from a plane.

Even if it isn't a boat (which is highly unlikely), finding any large man-made structure on top of a 16,000 ft mountain would be pretty cool! Or it could be the remains of an alien space ship that crashed!

Why is it highly unlikely that it isn't a boat? All signs point to it as just being a rock formation.

 

[pcmodem]

Hrm.

Fail to see how any large object, be it a boat or house or mobile home, could have gotten 15,000+ feet up onto Mount Ararat, when there's no geological evidence of a flood of such proportion as to float a boat to 15,000' above what is present day sea level.



Cheers, :beer:
PCM

 

[StormRider]

Originally posted by: DougK62

Originally posted by: StormRider

Originally posted by: DougK62

Originally posted by: azazyel

Originally posted by: DougK62
It's sad that people are wasting so many resources on something so stupid. They could be using their time to do something that can actually help the world and be meaningful...

Umm, right. Just because it has some religious significance means that it couldn't have any archaeological significance? I bet finding those tombs in Egypt were a waste of time as well?

I didn't say anything about religion or archaeology. If the ark was found it'd be very significant to both of those areas. The problem is that they're looking at the top of a 16,000 foot mountain. The only boat that'd be up there is one dropped from a plane.

Even if it isn't a boat (which is highly unlikely), finding any large man-made structure on top of a 16,000 ft mountain would be pretty cool! Or it could be the remains of an alien space ship that crashed!

Why is it highly unlikely that it isn't a boat? All signs point to it as just being a rock formation.

Oops, I meant to say it's highly unlikely that it's a boat...

 

[Fritzo]

BTW- I think it's kind of neat that people have the desire to search out mythical objects. Sometimes it pays off. Gorillas were thought to be mythological creatures until someone actually captured on in the 1800's. Same with the platypus. It'll be nice just to say "OK- I've proved it's is/isn't the ark. Move on."

 

[YellowRose]

Lets see. Its locked in a glacier and glaciers move. Therefore it should be at the bottom of the mountain not at the top.

 

[Epoman]

Originally posted by: iloveme2
repost?

lol?

 

[Epoman]

Originally posted by: DougK62

Originally posted by: azazyel

Originally posted by: DougK62
It's sad that people are wasting so many resources on something so stupid. They could be using their time to do something that can actually help the world and be meaningful...

Umm, right. Just because it has some religious significance means that it couldn't have any archaeological significance? I bet finding those tombs in Egypt were a waste of time as well?

I didn't say anything about religion or archaeology. If the ark was found it'd be very significant to both of those areas. The problem is that they're looking at the top of a 16,000 foot mountain. The only boat that'd be up there is one dropped from a plane.

HELLLOOOO the bible states the ENTIRE world was covered in water So it would be nothing for the boat to get stuck on that high mountain once the waters started going down.

 

[gibbsman]

Maybe it's an alien ship....AHHHHHHHH

 

[Antisocial Virge]

I can't beleive they are still looking for that. I read a debate once where scientists said that for 2 of each species of animals would have required a very huge ark the religious side said that the ark could have been the size of a thimble since it was just the "spirit" of the animals that were taken on it. Now they figure they are actually gonna find a big boat? My prediction is, they won't find anything or they will find something that is easy to explain but they will take it to mean something that fits into the agenda at hand.

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: MAME
it would be even cooler if all the religious zealots finally realized how dumb they are

That will never happen. Religious zealots never let facts and reason get in the way of their beliefs.

DING DING DING!!!


Took the words right out of my mouth,


Sysadmin

 

[Mallow]

this is a pipe dream... ain't gonna happen.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Antisocial-Virge
I can't beleive they are still looking for that. I read a debate once where scientists said that for 2 of each species of animals would have required a very huge ark the religious side said that the ark could have been the size of a thimble since it was just the "spirit" of the animals that were taken on it. Now they figure they are actually gonna find a big boat? My prediction is, they won't find anything or they will find something that is easy to explain but they will take it to mean something that fits into the agenda at hand.

I've read a similar debate, however one side was able to prove that all animals could have been on board. All the different species we have now are due to time and natural selection - take cats for example, all of the different breeds of domestic cats came from one species of cat. When you remove the current speciation from the equation, you can fit all of the world's land and air animals onto a big boat of pheasible dimensions.

Now the real trick is keeping them from eating each other.

 

[azazyel]

Originally posted by: Sysadmin

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: MAME
it would be even cooler if all the religious zealots finally realized how dumb they are

That will never happen. Religious zealots never let facts and reason get in the way of their beliefs.

DING DING DING!!!


Took the words right out of my mouth,


Sysadmin

Historical Side Note:

Jewish religious-political faction of Judea, existing for about 70 years in the 1st century CE, now no longer existing.
The Zealots achieved fairly little, except to trigger heavy Roman control over the Jews and the closing off of Jerusalem to Jews. But they were the main actors in one of the central legends in Jewish history: the defence of Masada and the subsequent collective suicide.

TEACHING
In their theology, the Zealots were relatively close to the Pharisees, but their doctrines had a strong focus on the necessities of violent actions against the enemies of Judaism.
The Zealots could not accept any foreign rule or domination as they meant that the land of the Jews, Judea, only could be ruled according to principles and authority of God.
http://i-cias.com/e.o/zealots.htm

 

[sciencewhiz]

Originally posted by: DougK62

Originally posted by: sciencewhiz

Originally posted by: DougK62
I didn't say anything about religion or archaeology. If the ark was found it'd be very significant to both of those areas. The problem is that they're looking at the top of a 16,000 foot mountain. The only boat that'd be up there is one dropped from a plane.

Considering that the ark is more then twice the size of the fuselage of a 747, that would be a hard task.

You completely missed the point. LOL.

Aliens don't exist, and yet we search for them (does that address your point?)

 

[Spencer278]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: Mith
Bah don't they know Noah was just the Hebrew rename? There has been a Flood/survivor story before even the Epic of Gilgamesh.

i know this i dont know why they dont know it, just about EVERY anchient culture has a great flood story

that doesn't disprove the flood idea. some could see it as evidence that there was indeed a world wide flood.

Or it could be evidence that people tend to liver near rivers and rivers tend to flood.

 

[pcmodem]

Originally posted by: azazyel

Originally posted by: Sysadmin

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: MAME
it would be even cooler if all the religious zealots finally realized how dumb they are

That will never happen. Religious zealots never let facts and reason get in the way of their beliefs.

DING DING DING!!!


Took the words right out of my mouth,


Sysadmin

Historical Side Note:

Jewish religious-political faction of Judea, existing for about 70 years in the 1st century CE, now no longer existing.
The Zealots achieved fairly little, except to trigger heavy Roman control over the Jews and the closing off of Jerusalem to Jews. But they were the main actors in one of the central legends in Jewish history: the defence of Masada and the subsequent collective suicide.

TEACHING
In their theology, the Zealots were relatively close to the Pharisees, but their doctrines had a strong focus on the necessities of violent actions against the enemies of Judaism.
The Zealots could not accept any foreign rule or domination as they meant that the land of the Jews, Judea, only could be ruled according to principles and authority of God.
http://i-cias.com/e.o/zealots.htm

Am I the only one that is getting flashbacks of Monty Python's "The Life of Brian"?

Judean People's Front... People's Front of Judea... Popular People's Front...



Cheers, :beer:
PCM

 

[Antisocial Virge]

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Antisocial-Virge
I can't beleive they are still looking for that. I read a debate once where scientists said that for 2 of each species of animals would have required a very huge ark the religious side said that the ark could have been the size of a thimble since it was just the "spirit" of the animals that were taken on it. Now they figure they are actually gonna find a big boat? My prediction is, they won't find anything or they will find something that is easy to explain but they will take it to mean something that fits into the agenda at hand.

I've read a similar debate, however one side was able to prove that all animals could have been on board. All the different species we have now are due to time and natural selection - take cats for example, all of the different breeds of domestic cats came from one species of cat. When you remove the current speciation from the equation, you can fit all of the world's land and air animals onto a big boat of pheasible dimensions.

Now the real trick is keeping them from eating each other.

Well thats a good idea and all but since the "ark was built" by people that were not much diferent than present day man, don't you think we would have a much larger understanding of evolution (change over time) and natural selection since it all happened over such a small time period? I foget the actual numbers but just the biomass of all the different pairs of species of insects is staggering.

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
how do they know its Noah's Ark even if it is a boat

maybe its Bob's Ark

It has "S.S. Minnow" on the side.

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: sciencewhiz

Originally posted by: DougK62
I didn't say anything about religion or archaeology. If the ark was found it'd be very significant to both of those areas. The problem is that they're looking at the top of a 16,000 foot mountain. The only boat that'd be up there is one dropped from a plane.

Considering that the ark is more then twice the size of the fuselage of a 747, that would be a hard task.

Hmmm.... size of a 747... add the 6, carry the 1.... divide by 2...

AHHHH, so THAT's how big a cubit is!

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: hypersonic5

Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: Mith
Bah don't they know Noah was just the Hebrew rename? There has been a Flood/survivor story before even the Epic of Gilgamesh.

i know this i dont know why they dont know it, just about EVERY anchient culture has a great flood story

i always thought it was about the flooding of the black sea...because the flooding evidence during that time was recorded to happen at the black sea...

i may be wrong..but this is discovery channel reference

Yea, I think the flood actually happened in that relatively small area. But how would the people of that time judge distance? A flood of relatively large size could, to them, "drown the whole world." And that's what I think happened, considering all of the stories from all different cultures.

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i like the german flood story

A louse and a flea were brewing beer in an eggshell. The louse fell in and burnt herself. This made the flea weep, which made the door creak, which made the broom sweep, which made the cart run, which made the ash-heap burn, which made the tree shake itself, which made the girl break her water-pitcher, which made the spring begin to flow. And in the spring's water everything was drowned. [Grimm 30]

 

[cerebusPu]

its probly just a rock formation that looks like a ship. $1million expedition to look at rock! lol.

then again..we spent 800millon to look at rocks on mars.