It used to be ok...

[Viper1j]

Or maybe, and just hear me out here, we should create a society where people don't have to go through the horror of selling their own children in order for the child to have a good life and the mother to have enough money.

In a perfect world..
In a world filled with fairies and butterflies and unicorns, and all manner of pretty things...

When we're done with that, we can buy everyone on the planet a puppy.

 

[Blackjack200]

In a perfect world..
In a world filled with fairies and butterflies and unicorns, and all manner of pretty things...

When we're done with that, we can buy everyone on the planet a puppy.

If you think a world that has enough equality that people aren't literally selling their own children is some kind of hippie fantasy you have pig shit for brains.

The bolded (by me) is over the line. Please learn to express your outrage better. Also, pick your targets better.

Perknose
Forum Director

 

[Atreus21]

Or maybe, and just hear me out here, we should create a society where people don't have to go through the horror of selling their own children in order for the child to have a good life and the mother to have enough money.

Find me any society in earth's history that hasn't had any desperately poor people, or terribly evil people willing to purchase children.

 

[Viper1j]

Find me any society in earth's history that hasn't had any desperately poor people, or terribly evil people willing to purchase children.

Not on this planet.

 

[dawp]

Well, she still had three other kids to feed..



With a name like "Domingo-Perez "?

Don't think so.

could be Filipino, they tend to have spanish names.

 

[thraashman]

Considering how incredibly expensive going through legal adoption is, I can't say I'd be surprised that people would rather just buy or sell a kid. I get we need to be sure adopting parents are capable, but we don't make sure that people who birth their own kids are fit. We do need to break down some of the financial barriers to adoption.

Yes I realize this is only tangentially related, but it made me think.

 

[Viper1j]

Considering how incredibly expensive going through legal adoption is, I can't say I'd be surprised that people would rather just buy or sell a kid. I get we need to be sure adopting parents are capable, but we don't make sure that people who birth their own kids are fit. We do need to break down some of the financial barriers to adoption.

Yes I realize this is only tangentially related, but it made me think.

It was supposed to.

It will become a bigger problem if Roe v Wade gets reversed, or if some of these states get their way with their anti-abortion issues.

In order to slow down the rate of dumpster/toilet/snowbank and left in the woods babies, states enacted "Safe Haven" laws.

Pop the puppy, and drop it off at a police or fire station free: No questions asked. It's only a matter of time before the state(s) run out of room/resources for them. Then you'll see them show up on eBay.

The "State" can sell your kid and keep the money, you're the only one that can't do it.

Watch the bidding on a 17 1/2 year old blond or Asian.

 

[Atreus21]

It will become a bigger problem if Roe v Wade gets reversed, or if some of these states get their way with their anti-abortion issues.

I'd prefer parents selling their children to killing them.

 

[thraashman]

I'd prefer parents selling their children to killing them.

I haven't seen anyone advocating for killing children.

 

[Blackjack200]

Less than 100 infants are abandoned per year in California, a state with 40 million people in it. Nearly all of those infants are surrendered legally.

Safely Surrendered Baby Data

www.cdss.ca.gov

A reversal of Roe v Wade would probably not change that much as women would still get abortions, they would just die from them more and be punished when caught.

 

[thraashman]

Less than 100 infants are abandoned per year in California, a state with 40 million people in it. Nearly all of those infants are surrendered legally.

Safely Surrendered Baby Data

www.cdss.ca.gov

A reversal of Roe v Wade would probably not change that much as women would still get abortions, they would just die from them more and be punished when caught.

Well I believe a reversal of Roe v Wade would make it so that abortion was a state issue. And California would almost definitely pass legalization of abortion as a stopgap while fighting the every loving hell out of the bullshit ruling that reverses it. I do think that even though Kavanaugh, Alito, and Thomas absolutely are among the most constitutionally ignorant asswipes we've ever had on the SCOTUS, that Roberts understands there's not really a good argument to reverse the 50 years of precedence of Roe v Wade.

 

[Blackjack200]

Well I believe a reversal of Roe v Wade would make it so that abortion was a state issue. And California would almost definitely pass legalization of abortion as a stopgap while fighting the every loving hell out of the bullshit ruling that reverses it.

I could be wrong but I think that the assumption is that if the court reverses Roe, a national abortion ban won't be far behind.

I do think that even though Kavanaugh, Alito, and Thomas absolutely are among the most constitutionally ignorant asswipes we've ever had on the SCOTUS, that Roberts understands there's not really a good argument to reverse the 50 years of precedence of Roe v Wade.

None of them care about any of that shit. Roberts is as bad as the rest of them.

 

[Atreus21]

I could be wrong but I think that the assumption is that if the court reverses Roe, a national abortion ban won't be far behind.

Completely disagree, unless Republicans effect a near-total sweep of the federal government.

Reversing Roe only returns this issue to the states, where it belongs.

 

[Blackjack200]

Completely disagree, unless Republicans effect a near-total sweep of the federal government.

Reversing Roe only returns this issue to the states, where it belongs.

lol, yeah pro life shitheads will definitely be satisfied with that.

 

[Atreus21]

lol, yeah pro life shitheads will definitely be satisfied with that.

Of course we wouldn't be satisfied with it. We'd prefer to outlaw it wherever it rears its head, as it is regarded as the worst example of cruelty and butchery the nation has ever countenanced.

However, as a practical matter, I don't see that happening soon, for the same reason I don't see the opposite, an enshrinement of Roe's standards into federal law, happening soon.

 

[soundforbjt]

it is regarded as the worst example of cruelty and butchery the nation has ever countenanced.

Worse than how some slaves were treated?

 

[Atreus21]

Worse than how some slaves were treated?

Absolutely. Slaves at least were grudgingly permitted to be alive.

 

[Jaskalas]

I get the impression that this topic was neither slavery nor abortion....

 

[Viper1j]

lol, yeah pro life shitheads will definitely be satisfied with that.

When they support the death penalty, and kids in cages, they're not pro-life.

They're pro-birth. They don't give two farts in a hurricane once that puppy pops.

 

[Atreus21]

When they support the death penalty, and kids in cages, they're not pro-life.

They're pro-birth. They don't give two farts in a hurricane once that puppy pops.

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If we did, would you be opposed to abortion?

 

[JEDIYoda]

Remember this?

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And.. (wait for it) THEY WERE WHITE!

But today?

A mother in Kentucky was arrested for selling her baby for $2,000, police say | CNN

A mother in Kentucky has been accused of selling her baby for $2,000, police said.

www.cnn.com

A mother in Kentucky was arrested for selling her baby for $2,000, police say

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Maria Domingo-Perez was arrested Tuesday after reports that a woman gave away a child in Kentucky, police said.

A mother in Kentucky has been accused of selling her baby for $2,000, police said.
Police contacted Maria Domingo-Perez, 31, after officials at Parker Bennett Curry Elementary School in Bowling Green, Kentucky, reported that a woman was giving away a child, police said.

Domingo-Perez initially gave officers "conflicting statements" but police said she later admitted to giving the baby to a man and a woman.

The couple, 37-year-old Catarina Jose Felipe and 45-year-old Jose Manuel Pascual, told detectives they had paid $2,000 for the baby, police said.
Authorities didn't discuss the gender or age of the baby.

The mother, Felipe and Pascual were arrested and charged with selling/purchasing a child for adoption on Tuesday, police and jail records show.
It was not immediately clear whether the suspects are represented by an attorney yet.
Police said the baby and Domingo-Perez's other four children are in protective custody.


Must be a brown thing..

I would bet that it was never OK!! You just used that thread title to get people to click on your thread...this really was never OK!!

 

[Zorba]

Considering how incredibly expensive going through legal adoption is, I can't say I'd be surprised that people would rather just buy or sell a kid. I get we need to be sure adopting parents are capable, but we don't make sure that people who birth their own kids are fit. We do need to break down some of the financial barriers to adoption.

Yes I realize this is only tangentially related, but it made me think.

Adopt from the state and get paid to do it. Adoption costs money when you want a little white baby from a pregnant teenager.

I met a lady in a kid's (clothing) resale shop that had a perfectly healthy 3 day old baby she was going to adopt and she was getting paid to do so. How? She was an emergency foster parent and the birth mom abandoned the baby at the hospital.

 

[Blackjack200]

Adopt from the state and get paid to do it. Adoption costs money when you want a little white baby from a pregnant teenager.

I met a lady in a kids resale shop that had a perfectly healthy 3 day old baby she was going to adopt and she was getting paid to do so. How? She was an emergency foster parent and the birth mom abandoned the baby at the hospital.

Given the thread, I re-read this phrase about six times.

 

[Viper1j]

If we did, would you be opposed to abortion?

I'm pro-everyone learn to mind their own fucking business.

It's a pretty sad existence, when your life is so meaningless, that you can only find validation by injecting yourself into the lives of strangers.

 

[Viper1j]

I would bet that it was never OK!! You just used that thread title to get people to click on your thread...this really was never OK!!

If the person suffered no consequences for the behavior, an inference can be made that it was "okay" to engage in said behavior.