hey man i'm totally with you on this one.
if you want to beat the system and not violate your principles then
http://www.urinator.com is your friend
if you want to beat the system and not violate your principles then
http://www.urinator.com is your friend
They most certainly can, but if you want to work at a decent job, you've got to play by the rules, simple as that.
That's really silly. It isn't an invasion of privacy really. They want to know about the people they are hiring. It isn't like they are taping your phones to find out if you are cheating on your wife, they just want to know if you are breaking the law by using drugs. And beyond that they probably just want to make sure since you need to be reliable and so forth. I had to take a drug test to work at best buy when i was in HS and also to work an IT job I had in HS too. I dont think it is a big deal, if its a good job, take the test and be over with it.
You're more than welcome to, as long as it doesn't include working at a company that drug tests.
There really is no issue here, nobody's telling you what to do.
They're simply saying if you want to work here, you have to meet these requirements. Whether you do or not is completely up to you.
Viper GTS
read up on the frequency of false positives.....its astounding that this practice is still in place.
There are tons of things that are bad that companies do, and drug testing is but a small snippet of the major picture. It's great that you have morals and principals, but just remember that just because a company doesn't drug test, doesn't mean the same company isn't up to some other heinous activity. Muahaha...
Homerboy
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Hahahaha worse argument EVER!
People CAN and do and will live their lives their way... however any employer has the right to decide if a potential employee will be productive for them. Peeing in a cup is no different than asking for your past work experience, education, etc etc... Is asking for those types of info "invasion of privacy" too?
Pee in the cup and STFU. If you have nothing to fear don't fear it. I hate these discussions
I already have. Read the above posts. If the screening test is positive the sample continues on to a confirmatory test.
that only takes into account if drugs were initially detected but are not present. What if someones sample is accidentally contaimanated or switched....they just lost a job.
:roll: Don't start with the conspiracy theories. As far as contamination goes, contaminated with what? (The person collecting your pee sample is going to open up your sample and drop something in....:roll: )
And the confirmatory HPLC testing also shows derivatives of each substance (as they are further broken down in the body).
Demon-Xanth
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conspiracy theory? wtf are you talking about quit the whole rolling eye bit its fvcking homoerotic....
.people make mistakes!!! mislabeling, not proper sterilization any infinite number of possible errors can be made by ppl, ..they give ppl the wrong babies in hospitals sometimes.....christ look at the amount of malpractice lawsuits against DOCTORS! someone who has been in school half there life still makes mistakes so i'm expected to believe a lab technician wont....bullsh1t!
Originally posted by: Sundog
LOL....how is Home Depot working out!
pretty good......i was so cracked up yesterday that i shot a nail from a nail gun through my mangers nutsack....he was stuck to the sheet rock in teh sheet rock isle....it was so funny i ran outside and smoked more crack.
Sorry, OP, seems like you are a bit naive in the ways of the world. A hospital needs to do those things for numerous reasons. Access to drugs is one of them, but less pertitent than access to client information. You are an IT guy, so there is almost a 100% certainty you are going to have access to client information at some point. And yes, even the IT guy needs to be trustworthy. If you worked at the CIA and were an IT guy, don't you think that they would make you take a drug test there too?
People are rightfully very concerned about medical history privacy. An abused IT position is a scary thought.
What does this have to do with drugs? Well, aside from the theory that a drug user will be more likely to do something crazy, which I'm not sure about but is out there, there's the fact that very few drugs don't cloud judgement or brain activity in some fashion, which means even if you don't intentionally make an error which compromises data, you might do it unintentionally.
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People are rightfully very concerned about medical history privacy. An abused IT position is a scary thought.
What does this have to do with drugs? Well, aside from the theory that a drug user will be more likely to do something crazy, which I'm not sure about but is out there, there's the fact that very few drugs don't cloud judgement or brain activity in some fashion, which means even if you don't intentionally make an error which compromises data, you might do it unintentionally.
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