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It is God's plan that our soldiers are sent to Iraq

jpeyton

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"Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God," she exhorted the congregants. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."

Religion, however, was not strictly a thread in Palin's foreign policy. It was part of her energy proposals as well. Just prior to discussing Iraq, Alaska's governor asked the audience to pray for another matter -- a $30 billion national gas pipeline project that she wanted built in the state. "I think God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that," she said.
She talks about the pipeline around the 4 minute mark, about Iraq around the 6 minute mark, and there's plenty of other good stuff in there as well. Listen to her speak, and make up your own mind if she's ready to be a heartbeat away from the most powerful office in the world.

I remember GWB said something about Iraq being his task from God as well:

I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, 'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan.' And I did, and then God would tell me, 'George go and end the tyranny in Iraq,' and I did.
Now that I think about it, this is a trump card for McCain. She's supremely qualified to be President if she knows God's plan.
 
You know what is ironic?

If our government actually honored separation of church and state and candidates/parties stayed away from religion influencing their policies, things like this wouldn't be very important.

But I think its quite scary that this woman can quantify what is God's will to begin with. Especially something as TRIVIAL as building a damn pipe-line.

I think this is quickly going to become a bad choice for McCain.
 
A lot of religious people believe that everything is part of gods will.

But I am sure the Republicans would love to compare her church to Obama's.
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
A lot of religious people believe that everything is part of gods will.

But I am sure the Republicans would love to compare her church to Obama's.


What disturbs me the most about this video is that Palin just presses her agenda to be part of God's will because God's will is whatever her agenda is for that given day.

If tomorrow she changes her mind and says she doesn't want a pipeline, that's God's will too?
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
A lot of religious people believe that everything is part of gods will.

But I am sure the Republicans would love to compare her church to Obama's.

Hay there PJ, let's skip a step and just compare her to Reverend Wright. Yaa, That's right. they both have crazy mouths.
 
So did the Kamikaze pilots that attacked the USA.

If you believe in gods plan then everything you do is in accordance to his plan because god rules all of mankind.

To have such a leader is to have a sociopath as a leader, absent of his or her own will.

Osama is a prime example, i know you think i'm a retard for the comparison, but the fucking shoe fits PERFECTLY on him, gods will be done regardless of what happens or what he does, the people of the Taliban are thinking the same damn thing.

1prophet, exactly, bangs to bones.
 
Originally posted by: 1prophet
Judas Iscariot believed he was doing God's will.

But "Doing God's will" is just a way to deny responsibility. Isn't it just people blaming little voices in their heads for what they really want to do?
 
Government and God should never, under any circumstances, have anything to do with one another.

Hey jpayton ... where did that quote from GWB come from? linky prease?
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
A lot of religious people believe that everything is part of gods will.

But I am sure the Republicans would love to compare her church to Obama's.

In that case you can't possibly know his will in advance, unless you can tell the future.
 
I can almost get over the war being God's will, that is just taking your patriotism too far and if you think we're doing the right thing over there for humanity then I suppose you could quantify it that way. But it is downright scary that she puts her other pet projects in the "God's will" category.
 
All of that invoking "God's Will" and so forth make her sound like an Islamic extremist. We should put her on the no-fly list for sure. Nevertheless, it hardly surprises me to see yet another Republican candidate wearing their religion on their sleeve. Not surprising either, that they don't even know their own religious text:

"And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you."

Christianity. You're doing it wrong.
 
Originally posted by: 1prophet
Judas Iscariot believed he was doing God's will.

So what you are saying is that if Palin decides to pass a policy that is God's will, it can be anything arbitrary? And it doesn't matter to you?
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
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But I am sure the Republicans would love to compare her church to Obama's.

Exactly my first though too.

Well great, now another round of the ole Rev Wright and his church tapes can be justified by Dems dragging up this.

BTW: I doubt any people who would even consider voting for McCain would be troubled by this info. FWIW, if had to work outdoors in AK on a pipeline or anything else I'd be praying too.

And jpeyton, you outta remove that corny made-up fake quote from GWB, or at least indicate it's your fiction.

Fern
 
What I don't understand is why anyone should pray in the first place.

I mean, if there is a god and it has a plan and a will of its own, do you really think that you asking it to alter its plan is going to have it stop, re-assess its plan/will and say to itself "You know, this Sarah Palin makes a very compelling case. Maybe I should do it that way instead of the way that I designed it to work 6000 years ago."
 
Yup, God needs a Pipeline. It also needs you to Lie and just make stuff up to Invade others. Don't ask why, just because. The Profits made later by those doing the Will of God are just God's Blessing for a job well done!
 
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
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But I am sure the Republicans would love to compare her church to Obama's.

Exactly my first though too.

Well great, now another round of the ole Rev Wright and his church tapes can be justified by Dems dragging up this.

BTW: I doubt any people who would even consider voting for McCain would be troubled by this info. FWIW, if had to work outdoors in AK on a pipeline or anything else I'd be praying too.

And jpeyton, you outta remove that corny made-up fake quote from GWB, or at least indicate it's your fiction.

Fern

Google the quote, its not fake.
 
Who cares if Fern thinks that one is fake or not, we've got Palin on video.
 
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