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theeedude

Lifer
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Why do Teslas only have one gear?
Because Elon is trans-phobic!
I'll walk myself out.
 
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pcgeek11

Lifer
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They can always get a lawyer.

Texas is considered an “at-will” employment state, meaning an employer can terminate an employee for any reason – no matter how trivial or irrational – or for no reason at all.


There are some exceptions that protect employees, including discriminating against or terminating an employee based on their national origin, gender, race, color, religion, disability, age, marital status, pregnancy, or citizenship status. It is important to understand what wrongful termination is in Texas as well as what is not considered wrongful termination under state and federal law. Here are some of the most important things you need to know about wrongful termination:
1. A termination that seems “unfair” is not necessarily illegal.

Many employees feel their termination from a job was unfair, irrational, or was done out of “nowhere.” Employers in Texas have the right to fire an employee for any reason. While there are a variety of exceptions to this rule, a termination is most often perfectly legal and wrongful termination does not apply.
2. Employer breach of an employment contract.

If there is a written employment contract that promises an employee a job or job security, they are not considered an at-will employee in Texas. Implied employment contracts based on defined statements written in an employee handbook by an employer can also protect an employee from at-will termination. For example, if a company’s employee handbook states that employees can only be fired for “good cause,” that may be considered an implied contract. If an employee is fired without good cause, they may be able to bring a legal claim for breach of contract in this situation.
3. Illegal Act Exception.

A public employee in Texas can sue for wrongful termination if they have been fired specifically for refusing to perform an illegal act. An “illegal act” is any action that would create criminal liability under state or federal law. This protection is not provided to employees of private companies.
4. Workers’ Compensation Exception.

Texas employers may not terminate an employee for filing a workers’ compensation claim. If an employee was terminated and believes the reason was their workers’ comp claim, they will have to show that they would not have been terminated if they had not made that claim for wrongful termination to apply.
5. Workplace safety concerns.

Employers are not allowed to fire an employee who, in good faith, has reported any safety violations to the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA).
6. Protected time off work.

Federal and state laws give employees the legal right to take time off from work in certain protected situations. Employers may not fire or discipline workers for exercising these rights. In Texas, this specifically includes taking time off for:

  • Jury Duty: Texas employees are entitled to unpaid leave if they have been called in for jury duty. Employers in Texas may neither fire nor penalize an employee for jury service. If an employee is terminated for taking time off for jury duty, the employer may be subject to special damages in a Texas wrongful termination lawsuit.
  • Voting Leave: Texas employers are required to allow their employees to take paid time off to vote, unless the employee has two consecutive hours off of work while voting polls are open.
  • Family and Medical Leave: The federal Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA) protects Texas employees when it is necessary for them to take time off due to serious health conditions, needing to care for a family member with serious health conditions, to care for a new child, or to handle practical matters arising out of a family member’s military service. Employees who take time off under FMLA are required to be reinstated to the same position once their leave is over. An employee cannot be fired for taking FMLA leave.
  • Military Leave: Federal law gives employees the right to take up to five years of leave to serve in the military with the right to be reinstated when they return to work.
7. Wage and hour laws and protection.

There are multiple state and federal laws governing how employers can handle their workers’ wages and hours. Employers are prohibited from firing employees in retaliation for exercising their rights under these laws. For example, if an employee works more than 40 hours per week, federal law requires their employer to pay them overtime. An employee cannot be terminated for asking for their rightfully owed overtime pay.
 

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At will is the most one sided sack of shit law that does nothing but protect employers. There's a reason conservatives like it.

Firing someone because they are gay is prohibited under federal sexual discrimination laws. They can't fire someone because they are gay. They can fire someone for...whatever reason their HR dept can attempt to agree to. It's all bullshit.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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At will is the most one sided sack of shit law that does nothing but protect employers. There's a reason conservatives like it.

Firing someone because they are gay is prohibited under federal sexual discrimination laws. They can't fire someone because they are gay. They can fire someone for...whatever reason their HR dept can attempt to agree to. It's all bullshit.


I wasn't defending the action by Musk. I was only pointing out the facts as laid out in Texas Law.
 
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pmv

Lifer
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There have long been accusations about Tesla not being the most 'inclusive' place to work.




...a jury in 2021 ruled in favor of a former employee who alleged discrimination and was awarded $130m in damages.

A federal judge in California last week awarded $15m to a former Tesla elevator operator in a racial bias case. The judge slashed a $137m jury verdict but said the plaintiff had shown ample evidence of racial abuse and Tesla’s failure to address it.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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You do understand that despite being called “right to work” it’s really a “right to be fired for bull shit” law right?


I know exactly what it means and that the correct term for it is that it is an "At Will" employment state.

If you like it or not doesn't matter unless you live in Texas.

If you live in Texas and don't like it you can fight to have it changed, move or live with it.
 
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Lifer
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I know exactly what it means and that the correct term for it is that it is an "At Will" employment state.

If you like it or not doesn't matter unless you live in Texas.

If you live in Texas and don't like it you can fight to have it changed, move or live with it.

Perfect avatar jack ass
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
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Did I say something that was incorrect?

If so point it out.

What does it have to do with my avatar?

you didn’t “say” anything, you copy and pasted from a website. It’s likely people planning on suing musk for wrongful termination based on sexual orientation will be hiring a lawyer.

man’s your avatar is a huge crying baby, which is perfect for you.
 

blackangst1

Lifer
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Tesla laid off 500 people. How many of those were gay?

edit: It seems out of 500 people a few were likely LGBTQ, no?
 
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pcgeek11

Lifer
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you didn’t “say” anything, you copy and pasted from a website. It’s likely people planning on suing musk for wrongful termination based on sexual orientation will be hiring a lawyer.

man’s your avatar is a huge crying baby, which is perfect for you.

You are correct I posted the facts from another web site. If you don't approve I guess that is too bad. They are still the facts.

I think to prove they are being terminated based on their sexual orientation will be a steep hill to climb, as there are others that were terminated that had nothing to do with the LGBTQ + or the Diversity and Inclusion volunteer positions or at least they were not linked to them in the article that was linked.

I feel sure there will be a lawsuit and the courts will settle it. It is clear that Musk is tired of all the "woke demands" and is aiming to put it to rest at Tesla.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
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You are correct I posted the facts from another web site. If you don't approve I guess that is too bad. They are still the facts.

I think to prove they are being terminated based on their sexual orientation will be a steep hill to climb, as there are others that were terminated that had nothing to do with the LGBTQ + or the Diversity and Inclusion volunteer positions or at least they were not linked to them in the article that was linked.

I feel sure there will be a lawsuit and the courts will settle it. It is clear that Musk is tired of all the "woke demands" and is aiming to put it to rest at Tesla.

Ah yes, the "woke demands". What's clear is Musk's treatment of people is pretty poor, his mid-life meltdown is showing.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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Ah yes, the "woke demands". What's clear is Musk's treatment of people is pretty poor, his mid-life meltdown is showing.


You are entitled to your opinion as is everyone. There are obviously many people that do want to work at Tesla. Just like any company some like it some don't. Those that don't are free to leave as they see fit.
 
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ch33zw1z

Lifer
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You are entitled to your opinion as is everyone. There are obviously many people that do want to work at Tesla. Just like any company some like it some don't. Those that don't are free to leave as they see fit.

cool story bro. Musk regularly posts anti LGBTQ stuff, fuck that guy.
 
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