Israelis attack!

[Sestar]

Oh no! Settlements! *Gasp*
Honestly, spare me the crap, Israel has Arab citizens, why the hell shouldn't the west bank or Gaza have Israeli ones?

 

[Kilgor]

It wouldn?t matter if Israel gave back all the occupied territories nothing would satisfy the Palestinians. The only way there will be peace is if one or the other is gone. Just the method of the way the Palestinians go about their attacks should prove that. How can you make peace with a people that have no respect for human life? Any society where a mother can be proud of her son blowing himself to bits isn?t rational. If they wanted to talk they would but they would rather set off human firecrackers all over Israel.

 

[Amused]

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<< Palestinians have been blowing them up without Israeli provocation...hard to argue for a cycle of violence these days, isn't it? >>



Yes, if you only source of news is american broadcasts. We hear a lot of western propaganda with american media sources, but what should you expect since Israel is our ally. Isreal occupies and has settlements in palenstinian lands. If I was a palestinian that would be very provocative >>



I guess three full scale wars of aggression by the Arab states and those claiming to be "Palestinian" escape you, no? There is a reason Israel occupies these lands that were formally Egypt and Jordan: THE ARABS ATTACKED THEM NOT ONCE, NOT TWICE, BUT THREE TIMES AND LOST.

What part of this very important history escapes you? What part of the fact that even if Israel pulled out of all the so-called "Palestinian lands," the Arabs would still attack them escapes you?

 

[veryape]

<< well placing blame on people is just going to get more flamewars started... lets just sit back and hope WWIII doesn't come out of this. >>

It seems to me that WWIII has already begun, and we've been drawn right into the frontline of the fracus. This is just the beginning of something much bigger in my opinion, and all because the people in the middle east are jealous turds, and think they have the right to dictate who can live where, all the while breaking every law of their so called religion. There is something seriously wrong with these people and they will not be satisfied until either they no longer exist or they have killed every innocent on the face of the earth, all in the name of Allah. But hey, everything is America's fault and we'll take the blame on this one too, but we'll also come out the victor, I hope.:disgust:

You can call me Hitler too, but I would love to see the end of the fighting in the middle east, and if that also means leveling Palestine and everyone there, so be it. It beats them killing more of our innocent people.

 

[GoodToGo]

Welcome to WWIII... and the destruction of the Arab States! Boy talk about wanting to get your own a$$ kicked.

 

[SuperCyrix]

<< Israelis attack! >>



And France surrenders

 

[Amused]

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<< Israelis attack! >>



And France surrenders >>



Heh

 

[Martin]

<< Oh no! Settlements! *Gasp*
Honestly, spare me the crap, Israel has Arab citizens, why the hell shouldn't the west bank or Gaza have Israeli ones? >>




Perhaps you'd like to study the issue better? Palestinians in Israel are second class citizens (sorta like the coloureds in the US way back). In the West bank, the minority (israeli settlers) rules the majority (palestinian).


Anywhoo, it'd be interesting to see what comes out of this. I predict...you guessed it - more attacks from the palestinians.

 

[Pocatello]

Oh please, there won't be a WWIII. Israel could take on the whole Arab countries in the past, even the Arabs had the Russians behind them. The Arabs won't make that same mistake by going to war with Israel again. The only times we had world wars were when the Germans get involved

 

[Larvae]

first of all this has nothing to do with occupation. the palestinians were attacking the israelislong before israel occupied that land, which for thousands of years was jewish land anyway. second the reason for the suicide bombers is that arafat pays the families of the losers who do that. why? because it distracts from the fact that arab governemtns cant provide a decent statndard of living for people because islamic culture is inferior, never contributed anything to civilization and if they dont happen to live on any oil fields that the americans developed they have no source of income

the reason this never ends is that there is never any price to arafat fo doing terrorism, bush and the rest of the world keep walidating it as a tactic by talking about a palestinian state, like the world really needs another terrorist country like afghanistan or syria. if aratfat had a country hed be doing what he does in israel internationally. the palestininians have never compromised even an inch throughout, its israel doing all of the giving in

bush is a hypocrite. on the one hand he takes out a country harboring a terrorist and the criticizes israel for takng less drastic action against the parasite doing terrorism against them. if israel were an aryan nation instead of a jewish one the world would have expected them to turn out the lights on arafat a long time ago

palestinians suck, their situation is unimportant , we owe them nothing, they are nothing ,and the us should stop trying to do anything for them, we have no reason to. what we really shoudl do is ship a couple million tons of concrete over there and build a wall around those animals to protect the civilized world from scum like that

 

[Amused]

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<< Oh no! Settlements! *Gasp*
Honestly, spare me the crap, Israel has Arab citizens, why the hell shouldn't the west bank or Gaza have Israeli ones? >>




Perhaps you'd like to study the issue better? Palestinians in Israel are second class citizens (sorta like the coloureds in the US way back). In the West bank, the minority (israeli settlers) rules the majority (palestinian).


Anywhoo, it'd be interesting to see what comes out of this. I predict...you guessed it - more attacks from the palestinians. >>



Perhaps YOU'D like to study the issue? Arab-Israeli citizens have full and equal rights under the law. Only the ones who refuse citizenship and live as perpetual refugees have problems.

 

[Sestar]

Yeah, what amused one said In fact Israel often grants citizenship requests to palestinians, more so then arab nations. Oh and btw, guess who the number 2 contributor is to the palestinian relief fund behind Saudi Arabia, Israel. Guess who really massacred the most palestinians? Jordan, Black September 12,000 dead. Spare me this whole Israel is a bad guy bullsh*t.

 

[b0mbrman]

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<< Israelis attack! >>

And France surrenders >>


Heh heh...France amuses me

 

[Kadarin]

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<< Palestinians have been blowing them up without Israeli provocation...hard to argue for a cycle of violence these days, isn't it? >>



Yes, if you only source of news is american broadcasts. We hear a lot of western propaganda with american media sources, but what should you expect since Israel is our ally. Isreal occupies and has settlements in palenstinian lands. If I was a palestinian that would be very provocative >>



This is as opposed to the Palestinian propaganda that you're listening to? (look at the communique dated 3/27)

 

[rahvin]

<< I guess three full scale wars of aggression by the Arab states and those claiming to be "Palestinian" escape you, no? There is a reason Israel occupies these lands that were formally Egypt and Jordan: THE ARABS ATTACKED THEM NOT ONCE, NOT TWICE, BUT THREE TIMES AND LOST. >>



I would like to point out that in one of the wars, 57 I believe Israel was the aggressor. Shortly after Egypt took the Canal from France the french paid Israel to take the Suez back. The UN never recognized the taking of the west bank and gaza (as spoils of war) because of the manner in which they were occupied.

I still say Israel should unilateraly declare a palestinian state along the borders they desire. Wait till there is an act of agression, formally declare war and reoccupy the land with force of arms. They should completely destory the nation and annex the land and evict the Palestinians from the new bigger country of Israel.

 

[mrCide]

<< It's about time they do something, they just need to wipe the whole palestinian population out of existance. Nothing but a bunch of wackos. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

KK >>




stupid fool, i hope you die a slow and painful death.

 

[Kilgor]

<< Second: what the Zionist entity and its ally America call ?innocent civilians? are called in our Brigades and our Palestinian people?s lexicon settlers and usurpers of our lands. They will only receive death and displacement and if they wish to save their lives they have to pack up and leave before they regret it. >>





<< Third: our operation, which coincided with the Arab summit in Beirut, is a clear message to our Arab rulers that our Mujahid people have chosen their road and known how to regain lands and rights in full depending on Allah only. Our people do not accept other than Jihad and resistance as the main path to regain usurped rights. >>





<< Fourth: the Qassam Brigades affirm continuation of all kinds of Jihad and resistance employing all available means at the opportune time and place without paying attention to the inharmonious voices that call for halting our blessed intifada. >>



Pretty much says to me they don?t want to talk they would rather blow themselves blessingly up, and hopefully take as many American and Israelis with them as possible.

 

[CocaCola5]

.....Hamas acknowledges bombing of strip mall...

 

[Amused]

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<< I guess three full scale wars of aggression by the Arab states and those claiming to be "Palestinian" escape you, no? There is a reason Israel occupies these lands that were formally Egypt and Jordan: THE ARABS ATTACKED THEM NOT ONCE, NOT TWICE, BUT THREE TIMES AND LOST. >>



I would like to point out that in one of the wars, 57 I believe Israel was the aggressor. Shortly after Egypt took the Canal from France the french paid Israel to take the Suez back. The UN never recognized the taking of the west bank and gaza (as spoils of war) because of the manner in which they were occupied. >>


Actually, the military strike of '56 was more than provoked. Egypt had closed the canal to all Israel shipping, and any and all vessels headed to Israel. The UN declared that Egypt was illegally blocking the canal.

UN negotiator Ralph Bunche declared: "There should be free movement for legitimate shipping and no vestiges of the wartime blockade should be allowed to remain, as they are inconsistent with both the letter and the spirit of the armistice agreements."

On September 1, 1951, the Security Council ordered Egypt to open the Canal to Israeli shipping. Egypt refused to comply.

The Egyptian Foreign Minister, Muhammad Salah al-Din, said early in 1954:

"The Arab people will not be embarrassed to declare: We shall not be satisfied except by the final obliteration of Israel from the map of the Middle East."

The escalation continued with the Egyptian blockade of the Straits of Tiran, and Nasser's nationalization of the Suez Canal in July 1956. On October 14, Nasser made clear his intent:

"I am not solely fighting against Israel itself. My task is to deliver the Arab world from destruction through Israel's intrigue, which has its roots abroad. Our hatred is very strong. There is no sense in talking about peace with Israel. There is not even the smallest place for negotiations."

Less than two weeks later, on October 25, Egypt signed a tripartite agreement with Syria and Jordan placing Nasser in command of all three armies.

The continued blockade of the Suez Canal and Gulf of Aqaba to Israeli shipping, combined with the increased fedayeen attacks and the bellicosity of recent Arab statements, prompted Israel, with the backing of Britain and France, to attack Egypt on October 29, 1956. The Israeli attack on Egypt was successful, with Israeli forces capturing the Gaza Strip, much of the Sinai and Sharm al-Sheikh. A total of 231 soldiers died in the fighting.

The sad thing is, Egypt kept getting it's ass kicked by the Israelis, and kept coming back for more. After every loss, Egypt claimed victim status, and declared Israel the aggressor. Sound familier?

You don't commit terrorist attacks, amass an army, get your ass kicked then claim the other guy was the aggressor. As for Israel, what were they to do, wait for all the Arab nations to attack them, AGAIN? Nope, if you're in the middle of throwing a punch, and I kick you in the balls before you make contact, who's the aggressor? It's not Israel's fault the Arabs are crappy strategists and telecast every move.

 

[b0mbrman]

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<< I guess three full scale wars of aggression by the Arab states and those claiming to be "Palestinian" escape you, no? There is a reason Israel occupies these lands that were formally Egypt and Jordan: THE ARABS ATTACKED THEM NOT ONCE, NOT TWICE, BUT THREE TIMES AND LOST. >>

I would like to point out that in one of the wars, 57 I believe Israel was the aggressor. >>


You're probably talking about the six-day war which was years later...both Egypt and Syria had mobilized their armies and put them under joint command...there was really nothing Israel could do...

Oddly enough, they still managed to embarrass their would-be attackers

 

[Amused]

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<<

<< I guess three full scale wars of aggression by the Arab states and those claiming to be "Palestinian" escape you, no? There is a reason Israel occupies these lands that were formally Egypt and Jordan: THE ARABS ATTACKED THEM NOT ONCE, NOT TWICE, BUT THREE TIMES AND LOST. >>

I would like to point out that in one of the wars, 57 I believe Israel was the aggressor. >>


You're probably talking about the six-day war which was years later...both Egypt and Syria had mobilized their armies and put them under joint command...there was really nothing Israel could do...

Oddly enough, they still managed to embarrass their would-be attackers >>



Nope, read my last post.

 

[Sestar]

In 1967 it was a preliminary strike the day before Israeli intelligence said the arabs would attack. They managed to destroy 90% of the opposers air force and get total air superiority.

 

[Martin]

<< Perhaps YOU'D like to study the issue? Arab-Israeli citizens have full and equal rights under the law. Only the ones who refuse citizenship and live as perpetual refugees have problems. >>




And how would explain the fact that palestinian schools recieve less funding for example? There have been a number of articles on this subject, all with the same conclusion. They may be equal in theory, but reality is different.



<< Spare me this whole Israel is a bad guy bullsh*t. >>



Why do YOU spare me the whole Israel is a saint bullsh*t?

 

[hominid skull]

All Israel has todo is to move out of the occupied lands, the gaza strip and the west bank. Remove all there settlements and stop building new ones, all the palistinians want is there homeland back which the Israelies stole 50 years ago. The Israelies have already agreed to do this, before Sharon was in power but it was never implemented.

The Palistinian poeple are undr siege, they don't have and army to fight with, any usefull weapons to use, they use the only thing they have - themselves to fight the Israelies. The Israelies cannot kill Arrafat, if they do then it'll be all out war, Arrafat will be a martre, Jehad - holy war.

They only way to get things moving in the right dirrection is to make concesions to the palistinians, like the uk did to the IRA, and put the ball in there court.

 

[KK]

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<< It's about time they do something, they just need to wipe the whole palestinian population out of existance. Nothing but a bunch of wackos. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

KK >>




stupid fool, i hope you die a slow and painful death. >>



Tell us how you really feel.

Just how do you propose how to stop the palestinians from blowing up the isrealis. I'd like to know your solution.

KK