Israeli Boy Dies in Hezbollah Attack

[SuperTool]

This is not news.

 

[RDWYTruckDriver]

 

[Pers]

Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Come on, anyone else think I am anti American??

Everyone share now...please??

i think you know what you're talking about

and that trucker should stop being allowed to participate in any more elections. down with democracy for the stupid!

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Come on, anyone else think I am anti American??

Everyone share now...please??

I don't think you're anti-American, but I think you're uninformed. I served on the Lebanese border for a short time. Hizbollah regularly shoots rockets and shells into civllian areas. They use anti-aircraft fire to achive the same result, but in a way which they can deny intent. This is not the first time. You asked what they have to gain by going after civillians. They gain the death of an innocent civillian. That's what terrorist organizations do. They terrorize the population to achive political aims. If you believe this was unintenional, you are being naive.

 

[Sarcasticor]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: BarneyFife

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Why do you roll your eyes? Every Israeli child killed in this conflict is a precicious life lost. This conflict will continue until the leaders of Israel (and its US patrons) learn to value the lives of Palestinian children as well. That means actions NOT words.

or the palestinians and arabs can get thier acts together and bring true peace for everyone. If I was israel, I'd teach Syria a very hard lesson, such as occupying their capital. But...hey...that's just me.

Hamas has kept their word. Israel hasn't with all of these raids.

Yeah. the problem with that is that Hamas is a TERRORIST organization. And, worse, they are one of many including Arafat's Fatah Hawks. It is Israel against Fatah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, the PLO, Hezbullah, other islamic terrorist organizations, the wider Arab world, and the bigger Islamic world. See the odds? It is one plucky state against a terror nexus. The terror organizations and the PLO need to consolidate power in the territories (hopefully, through civil warfare). And the wider islamic and arab world needs to support whoever comes out on top in the Palestinian conflict. From there the peace process can begin.

Or else, just obliterate all of them.

Yes, of course, just scream the T-word and everything is justified.

When Israel is firing shells into a palestinian school it is justified or perhaps "accidental" when the palestinians do the same thing they are terrorists.

The big army (US and Israel in this case) will always call the small army terrorists.

"obliterate all of them"? women and horrible terrorist children too?

Obliterate yourself truckdriver, one less terrorist in this world.

 

[Sarcasticor]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Come on, anyone else think I am anti American??

Everyone share now...please??

I don't think you're anti-American, but I think you're uninformed. I served on the Lebanese border for a short time. Hizbollah regularly shoots rockets and shells into civllian areas. They use anti-aircraft fire to achive the same result, but in a way which they can deny intent. This is not the first time. You asked what they have to gain by going after civillians. They gain the death of an innocent civillian. That's what terrorist organizations do. They terrorize the population to achive political aims. If you believe this was unintenional, you are being naive.

Ok, so IDF is are terrorists then? Because in past and in present they have terrorized innocent civilians (Sharon SHOULD be prosecuted as the war criminal he is, so should Arafat).

When the US army snipe Iraqi civilians buying guns in the open at a market (like they have always done) are they terrorists then?

 

[Aimster]

Uhm..

How come anyone who owns a weapon in the Israel area that is not an Israel is all of a sudden a "terrorist". Only the U.S labels most of these groups as terrorist as other nations have not done so. True, some of them are terrorist but the majority of them are just trying to fight for their country. I do not see a military in Palestine do you? These groups are their military.

Israel has done more harm to the Palestine people than they have done to them. Kids die almost every single day for throwing rocks. Rocks at tanks and they got shot. If your son dies would you not want to get back at the 'people' who killed your son? Where do you think these terrorist come from? Yes, I would agree they are terrorist, but just think where they come from. How can they support their cause? No organization can survive if they cannot prove their cause and with the daily violence and death in that area then the more powerful they will become.

Jews and Muslims hate one another. I do not understand why the Christians in this country seem to care about the violence in the middle east. Why not care about the violence in Africa? Nobody cares about Conga.. black people don't matter..(sarcastic remark)... as for Israel they are not MOSTLY white ... there are 1 million Arabs in Israel .. this is not about Jews vs Muslims. It is about the LAND. It has nothing to do with religion as Judiasm and Islam are very similar in very many ways.

As for RWDtruckdriver all your threads are out to be anti-Islam. Look at all the threads you start. I have not seen one that says "Israel killed 4 innocent palestinians" .. but when it is the other way around you jump at it.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Aimster
Uhm..

How come anyone who owns a weapon in the Israel area that is not an Israel is all of a sudden a "terrorist". Only the U.S labels most of these groups as terrorist as other nations have not done so. True, some of them are terrorist but the majority of them are just trying to fight for their country. I do not see a military in Palestine do you? These groups are their military.

Yes, but a military that TRIES to murder innocent civillians with bus bombs, shootings, etc. is not a military, but a gang of terrorists.

Israel has done more harm to the Palestine people than they have done to them.
Kids die almost every single day for throwing rocks. Rocks at tanks and they got shot.

That's a lie.

If your son dies would you not want to get back at the 'people' who killed your son? Where do you think these terrorist come from? Yes, I would agree they are terrorist, but just think where they come from.

Ummm, you just contradicted yourself.

How can they support their cause? No organization can survive if they cannot prove their cause and with the daily violence and death in that area then the more powerful they will become.

Not when the deaths are the premeditated mass murder of innocent civiliians.

Jews and Muslims hate one another. I do not understand why the Christians in this country seem to care about the violence in the middle east. Why not care about the violence in Africa? Nobody cares about Conga.. black people don't matter..(sarcastic remark)... as for Israel they are not MOSTLY white ... there are 1 million Arabs in Israel .. this is not about Jews vs Muslims. It is about the LAND. It has nothing to do with religion as Judiasm and Islam are very similar in very many ways.

Jews and Muslims hate each other.....why shold Christians care.....yet it's not about religion, but land. You're getting confused.

As for RWDtruckdriver all your threads are out to be anti-Islam. Look at all the threads you start. I have not seen one that says "Israel killed 4 innocent palestinians" .. but when it is the other way around you jump at it.

That's probably because there are enough people who post every time an Israeli sneezes.

 

[RDWYTruckDriver]

As for RWDtruckdriver all your threads are out to be anti-Islam

Prove where I said anything anti-Islam ? You may take it that way but that's because you and others here are anti-US and Israel.

That's probably because there are enough people who post every time an Israeli sneezes.

I post a fair and balanced view here in P&N because the core liberals ( US & Israel haters ) post nothing but one view here. I just give another view of a very long story that continues to this day.

"obliterate all of them"? women and horrible terrorist children too?

Obliterate yourself truckdriver, one less terrorist in this world.

Sarcasticor,

Find in this thread or anywhere I posted " obliterate all of them " You wont because " I did not " You need to re-read this thread before you quote something posted and say I wrote that.

Liberals here ... you know your wrong and this thread shows how you react when proven so.

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

RDWYTruckDriver - Just because you are pro-Palestine does not make you anti-Israel. I don't know it the same can be said for the opposite. I beleive in two states living side by side. Most of you pro-Israels don't even have the gaul to condemn the continuing creation and expansion of settlements, proof positive that you are against the creation of a viable Palestinian state. Not to mention your inability to condemn anything Isreal does or America's inability to act as an "honest broker".

 

[RDWYTruckDriver]

That's your view. Most liberals think they " know " what others believe and are thinking. Your " all-knowing all seeing " mindset blinds you.

I fully support a Palestinian state ( for the record ). The way I see it, as Israel makes the settlements they will be handed over to the Palestinians when ( and if ) the two people achieve peace. I don't support Israel building there though.

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: RDWYTruckDriver
That's your view. Most liberals think they " know " what others believe and are thinking. Your " all-knowing all seeing " mindset blinds you.

I fully support a Palestinian state ( for the record ). The way I see it, as Israel makes the settlements they will be handed over to the Palestinians when ( and if ) the two people achieve peace. I don't support Israel building there though.

I wasn't referring solely to you by that statement BTW, but tell me, what prominent conservative/neo-con has ever harshly critisized Israel for continuing settlment activity? At best they will get a soft reprimand followed by a wink wink. If you can honestly claim that most conservatives truely support a VIABLE Palestinian state as outlined by the Road Map, I would be well impressed. And let's not even talk about Neo-Cons, they need Israel, including all of the Palestinian territories, to belong to the Jews in order for Armageddon to come around.
The way you see it, and I do not mean to be a dick, is very naive. If Israel was eventually planning to hand over the settlements, they would not be spending millions on expanding them in the first place. Think about it, would you rent a house, build five new rooms and a pool, and just hand it back to the original owners? I think not.

 

[RDWYTruckDriver]

I don't support extreme thinking or action from the Right or Left. My statement is not a naive view. It's a realistic view. Israel will continue to build. I can't stop that. Palestinians will get those areas and building " if " there is ever a "Palestinian State ". Will this ever happen ? I don't know. Should the Palestinians have a State ? Yes.

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

IF there ever is a Palestinian state. That's the thing, IF, and if Israel has its way, and with conservatives and neo-Cons deluding themselves that America can act as an "honest broker" when they are impotent to critisize or put any presure on Israel, there never will a Palestinian State. That was my point. That's why I said you can be pro-Palestinian without being anti-Israeli while the opposite is seamingly a contradiction if you truely "support Israel" in the way the neo-Cons/Cons in our gov do. (not saying that you do)
Hence you stating that Israel would give back the settlements it a moot point. They won't because they don't have the intention of allowing the creation of a viable Palestinian state, and with the help of its bitch, thats us BTW, can keep expanding the settlements as they please.

 

[etech]

From 1948 to 1967 Egypt and Syria occupied the land that is now in dispute between Israel and the Palestininans.

Why didn't Egypt and Syria create a state for the Palestinians?

What was the treatment of the Palestininans under their fellow Arabs? Why did they keep the Palestininans penned up in refugee camps?

There is a lot more to the story than what you can learn on this message board.

Do some research. Read up on Lebanon and Black September.

 

[Sarcasticor]

Originally posted by: RDWYTruckDriver

As for RWDtruckdriver all your threads are out to be anti-Islam

Prove where I said anything anti-Islam ? You may take it that way but that's because you and others here are anti-US and Israel.

That's probably because there are enough people who post every time an Israeli sneezes.

I post a fair and balanced view here in P&N because the core liberals ( US & Israel haters ) post nothing but one view here. I just give another view of a very long story that continues to this day.

"obliterate all of them"? women and horrible terrorist children too?

Obliterate yourself truckdriver, one less terrorist in this world.

Sarcasticor,

Find in this thread or anywhere I posted " obliterate all of them " You wont because " I did not " You need to re-read this thread before you quote something posted and say I wrote that.

Liberals here ... you know your wrong and this thread shows how you react when proven so.

I am sorry truckdriver, i made a mistake, i meant Dari, it's easy to mix you, Dari and Hagbard up.

I assume you didn't claim that i am wrong then as i am no liberal, i am as far to the right you can get without being a Fascist, not as far as you are though.

 

[RDWYTruckDriver]

I am sorry truckdriver, i made a mistake

That's ok. I just wanted you to know it wasn't me 😉

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: etech
From 1948 to 1967 Egypt and Syria occupied the land that is now in dispute between Israel and the Palestininans.

Why didn't Egypt and Syria create a state for the Palestinians?

What was the treatment of the Palestininans under their fellow Arabs? Why did they keep the Palestininans penned up in refugee camps?

There is a lot more to the story than what you can learn on this message board.

Do some research. Read up on Lebanon and Black September.

They don't want to look that far. It hurts their head.

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: etech
From 1948 to 1967 Egypt and Syria occupied the land that is now in dispute between Israel and the Palestininans.

Why didn't Egypt and Syria create a state for the Palestinians?

What was the treatment of the Palestininans under their fellow Arabs? Why did they keep the Palestininans penned up in refugee camps?

There is a lot more to the story than what you can learn on this message board.

Do some research. Read up on Lebanon and Black September.

They don't want to look that far. It hurts their head.

I still have a headache from trying to figure out why some people think Iraq supported the WTC attacks.