Israel: We Are At War

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UNCjigga

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AIPAC at work. Telling congress what to do. As they did with Tik Tok.

Many years ago, a pro-Israeli media monitoring outfit (CAMERA) tried to rig Wikipedia by trying to install pro-Israeli editors. Some of their emails were leaked by Electronic Intifada and caused a stir leading Wikipedia to ban some of these editors. Hasnt stopped them from continuing to do so and I still find traces of their efforts on wiki pages.
It’s gonna get worse. It seems some ex-Israeli special forces guy is about to launch a new AI powered mass surveillance tool against Americans next week. Gideon is being promoted as a way to prevent mass shootings—but we all know this will be used to track Americans being critical of Israel.


No thank you.
 

amenx

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It’s gonna get worse. It seems some ex-Israeli special forces guy is about to launch a new AI powered mass surveillance tool against Americans next week. Gideon is being promoted as a way to prevent mass shootings—but we all know this will be used to track Americans being critical of Israel.
Exactly that. Israelis dont give a fuck about mass shootings in the US. This just a cover for mass surveillance of anti Israel criticism. If by chance they stumble across a muslim mass shooter, they will probably not do anything to stop him either.
 
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1000s join pro-Palestinian protests at Venice Film Festival

What got me was this...

Hollywood heavyweights, including Brad Pitt, Joaquin Phoenix, and Rooney Mara, have come on board Kaouther Ben Hania’s Gaza-set drama The Voice of Hind Rajab, as executive producers, boosting the film’s profile ahead of its world premiere in competition at the Venice Film Festival...

 
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Trump admin is still officiating a planned 21st century trail of tears?

Trump mulling postwar Gaza plan relocating 2 million Palestinians for multi-billion dollar investment

The Washington Post reported Sunday that a postwar plan for Gaza is circulating within the Trump administration that envisions relocating the territory’s entire population and transforming the enclave into a U.S.-administered economic and tourism hub.

After the election when I articulated my view that a Palestinian state was dead and that the Palestinians themselves would either be killed or relocated through whatever means Netanyahu and the Israeli right chose, eagerly enabled by Trump, I was called hyperbolic. I take no pleasure whatsoever in being correct.
 

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After the election when I articulated my view that a Palestinian state was dead and that the Palestinians themselves would either be killed or relocated through whatever means Netanyahu and the Israeli right chose, eagerly enabled by Trump, I was called hyperbolic. I take no pleasure whatsoever in being correct.

Yup.
Ethnic cleansing campaigns are ongoing in the Gaza strip and West Bank is being prepped for escalation.
The worlds leading superpower is a supporter and an active participant, regional players are fine with it.
Palestinians are going to end up on the very long lists of cultures wiped out throughout history with the additional trivia of what former campaign it most closely resembles.

I would assume that in the United States, any mention of it will be silently banned from curriculums for a few decades.

There is nothing the average person can do to prevent what's going to happen in the Gaza Strip. West Bank MIGHT still have some hope but that's a stretch given the power of the Ultra Orthodox community. They refuse to wear a uniform but in actuality they are effectively being used a militia force by the Israeli government to engage in operations against the Palestinian communities. They are supported by the Israeli military and are an extension of Israeli policy, which is to unify the territory and purge Palestinians from Israel.

For the average Palestinian, I'm not sure what future they can have in Israel. They will never have their own country. They will be restricted if they try and migrate to Israeli territory and from what I can see will be prevented from owning land as well as face severe discrimination.
They have no country. They will eventually be purged from Israel.
No one want's them in their country.

Someone help me come up with a realistic outcome here.
What am I missing.
 

amenx

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Yup.
Ethnic cleansing campaigns are ongoing in the Gaza strip and West Bank is being prepped for escalation.
The worlds leading superpower is a supporter and an active participant, regional players are fine with it.
Palestinians are going to end up on the very long lists of cultures wiped out throughout history with the additional trivia of what former campaign it most closely resembles.

I would assume that in the United States, any mention of it will be silently banned from curriculums for a few decades.

There is nothing the average person can do to prevent what's going to happen in the Gaza Strip. West Bank MIGHT still have some hope but that's a stretch given the power of the Ultra Orthodox community. They refuse to wear a uniform but in actuality they are effectively being used a militia force by the Israeli government to engage in operations against the Palestinian communities. They are supported by the Israeli military and are an extension of Israeli policy, which is to unify the territory and purge Palestinians from Israel.

For the average Palestinian, I'm not sure what future they can have in Israel. They will never have their own country. They will be restricted if they try and migrate to Israeli territory and from what I can see will be prevented from owning land as well as face severe discrimination.
They have no country. They will eventually be purged from Israel.
No one want's them in their country.

Someone help me come up with a realistic outcome here.
What am I missing.
Yes the Pals have lost big in terms of lives, land, practical chances for a state. But the Israelis have lost too. They are now seen as a murderous, fascist pariah state by much of the world. And much of the US now recognizes their tremendous hold over US politics and foreign policy that is frequently conducted to the detriment of its own interests, credibility, financial burden and security. So on that front, the US has also lost big too. There are no winners in any of this.

Sooner or later something will have to give. And more emboldened politicos from both the right and left will take them on and defy the lobby. The MSM is in a shambles and many no longer rely on it on anything Israel related as they now see most of what they've been told since the founding of Israel was based on lies. People are already ignoring much of the MSM in favor of independent media.

I do not believe AIPAC will be able to sustain its hold over US politics over the next decade. Something will have to give. Everyone is aware of their insidious, destructive nature and the parasitic relationship of Israel with the US that has cost it $ trillions in losses, lives and good standing as a world super-power.
 
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