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Israel: We Are At War

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cytg111 said:
I feel like falling down an ivermectin rabbit hole... Her dad was a certified god damn Israeli spy? An Israeli spy that was selling trojan horse software to US institutions? Amongst other things

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it's all just a strange co-incidence really
 
Drach said:
At this point and how their government acts I would say they don't deserve to be a country . They literally act like a modern day Nazi Germany .
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But it seems 80 years In terms of political ideology is enough time to shift everything upside down... for any country. Just dotted lines on a map man.
 
Drach said:
At this point and how their government acts I would say they don't deserve to be a country . They literally act like a modern day Nazi Germany .
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cytg111 said:
But it seems 80 years In terms of political ideology is enough time to shift everything upside down... for any country. Just dotted lines on a map man.
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We are all just human.

Take a good long look at human rights across the world today. Realize just how many people live in a society where they are a form of slave, one way or another. Fascism and totalitarianism appears more like humanity's default organization method, where as NATO's Democracies are sort of a strange fluke. Not all that large nor encompassing. And apparently, extremely fragile and prone to breaking apart.

In the full context of human failings, the distance between any of us (Israel included) and Nazism is not that far. And the loss of life not bothering Germany until they send a strongly worded letter over the hospital / journalist strike... probably because we witness Africa and other war torn regions with that sort of slaughter occurring 24/7. It is just that certain actions catch the public eye and make us reflexively denounce it, but otherwise Genocide appears to be standard order of the day.

Just look at how difficult, laborious, slow and ineffective our effort is to simply oppose millions dying from an unjust invasion in Europe. If we truly opposed it. We would be fighting with our military. Our strength. We would have ended that killing and saved lives. Instead, we sit back and watch. Thankfully most nations are at least providing aid, even if MAGA has crippled US morality and stopped our aid nearly altogether. But the gap between what we should be doing, and what we have actually done to stop the killing... apparently has always been fucking enormous. Whether it is in Africa, Europe, or Israel.

Watching and knowing how humanity reacts (or lackthereof) to genocide... disgusts me.
We need to do better in so many ways, in so many places.
 
Drach said:
At this point and how their government acts I would say they don't deserve to be a country . They literally act like a modern day Nazi Germany .
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Do you think a Palestinian state would exist today if they would not have made the decision to attack Israel along with the Arab states in 1948?
 
Brovane said:
Do you think a Palestinian state would exist today if they would not have made the decision to attack Israel along with the Arab states in 1948?
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And we still have victims of the false Israeli narrative. Virtually everything Israel had said in that regard going back to that period has been false or outright lies. The Arabs were mostly on the defensive and sent troops to help the Pals from the rapid Israeli drive to gobble up all the lands (source: Israeli historians, Ilan Pappe, Avi Shlaim and others)
 
amenx said:
And we still have victims of the false Israeli narrative. Virtually everything Israel had said in that regard going back to that period has been false or outright lies. The Arabs were mostly on the defensive and sent troops to help the Pals from the rapid Israeli drive to gobble up all the lands (source: Israeli historians, Ilan Pappe, Avi Shlaim and others)
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I’m guessing Brovane has never heard of the Avnir Plan or Plan Dalet.

Here’s a quick primer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_Dalet

In other words, Zionists had been planning for the eventual ethnic cleansing of Mandatory Palestine since 1937–before the horrors of Holocaust were fully known, before the end of WW2, before the Balfour Declaration, and before the end of the British Mandate.

They would never accept an Arab Palestinian state in the absence of British troops.
 
So the attack on the hospital that killed 20 people, including double tap was done because they spotted a camera that they claimed was put up by hamas.

20 people died because of a camera
 
They've been targeting aid workers and journalists way before Oct 7. And their acts of evil have been an ongoing thing since the establishment of Israel. They just made sure to also wage a massive disinformation campaign to cover it all up. It was quite thorough in the MSM until the arrival of the internet.
 
Of course matters of genocide and the distinction of the Israeli state vs members of the Jewish faith is not apparently a concern to the Zio board members.

Beverly Hills public schools to consider displaying Israeli flag on all campuses

The proposal is part of a resolution to combat antisemitism that also calls for educating students about Jewish history and commemorating Holocaust Remembrance Day (Yom HaShoah), International Holocaust Remembrance Day, and Oct. 7 as a Day of Remembrance of the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel...

www.latimes.com

Beverly Hills public schools to consider displaying Israeli flag on all campuses

The proposal to display the flag during Jewish American Heritage month has sparked outrage from some who consider the move symbolic support of Israel's actions in Gaza.
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Brovane said:
Do you think a Palestinian state would exist today if they would not have made the decision to attack Israel along with the Arab states in 1948?
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A Palestinian state will never exist because of Israel. They kill Palestinians exactly like the Nazi's in WW2. They have become the modern day Nazi's. We haven't seen the gas chambers yet.
Isolate the area and allow basic needs to be brought into Gaza. The rampant killing of civilians is despicable. It's no better than Hamas. Both need to go. Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin and Bibi fit in the same category. A child or mother is NOT a legitimate target of war.
 
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Joint Statement by the Greek Orthodox Patriarchate and the Latin Patriarchate of Jerusalem

Joint Statement by   the Greek Orthodox Patriarchate of Jerusalem   and the Latin Patriarchate of Jerusalem Jerusalem August 26th,2025 “In the path of righteo
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It seems that the Israeli government’s announcement that “the gates of hell will open” is indeed taking on tragic forms. The experience of past campaigns in Gaza, the declared intentions of the Israeli government with regard to the current operation, and the reports now reaching us from the ground, show that the operation is not just a threat, but a reality that is already in the process of being implemented. 

Among those who have sought shelter within the walls of the compounds, many are weakened and malnourished due to the hardships of the last months. Leaving Gaza City and trying to flee to the south would be nothing less than a death sentence. For this reason, the clergy and nuns have decided to remain and continue to care for all those who will be in the compounds.
 
cytg111 said:
That is when you know someone is dead inside... "but they're children of the fighters". Soul all zeroed out.
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You have 2 cultures that believe an ethnic group is entitled to the land because some old religious document from thousands of years ago says so and you are shocked when everyone goes all old testament on things?

 
pauldun170 said:
You have 2 cultures that believe an ethnic group is entitled to the land because some old religious document from thousands of years ago says so and you are shocked when everyone goes all old testament on things?

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Applying the same old testament... that is how the Jews got divided... and is likely to end divided again... one group was more violent and expansionist than the other.
 
KMFJD said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1960863265535484194

just insane
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AIPAC at work. Telling congress what to do. As they did with Tik Tok.

Many years ago, a pro-Israeli media monitoring outfit (CAMERA) tried to rig Wikipedia by trying to install pro-Israeli editors. Some of their emails were leaked by Electronic Intifada and caused a stir leading Wikipedia to ban some of these editors. Hasnt stopped them from continuing to do so and I still find traces of their efforts on wiki pages.
 
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