Israel trades 1000 Pal prisoners for 1 soldier

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44861388/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/

Cliff's note:

Netanyahu made a deal with Hamas to release Gilad Schalit, IDF soldier held by Hamas for years, in exchange for releasing 1,000 Palestinian prisoners, including hundreds serving life sentences for murder.

Apparently, Egypt's new government helped broker the deal.

I'm rather stunned at the lopsidedness of this deal. It would seem to set Israeli security interests way back. Purportedly this is a political move for Netanyahu because the release of Schalit could make him a "hero" but I have to think it's a political mixed bag at best.

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Genx87

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Israel have done this before. And dont be shocked within a few weeks when these dirtbags end up dead or caught again killing people.
 

woolfe9999

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Yeah I vaguely do recall that they have made prisoner swaps before, but 1000:1? I can't remember anything in the past even remotely close to this. Seems really ill advised to me. Not only may the "dirtbags" re-offend, but this sends a message that kidnapping Israelis is a very profitable avenue to pursue.
 

werepossum

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Lopsided? I'd say one Israeli soldier is easily worth 1,000 Palestinian criminals, and I applaud Hamas and Egypt for recognizing their relative worth.
 

woolfe9999

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Lopsided? I'd say one Israeli soldier is easily worth 1,000 Palestinian criminals, and I applaud Hamas and Egypt for recognizing their relative worth.

Clever, but would you have signed off on this deal if you were Netanyahu?
 

SandEagle

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gilad is prolly safe and sittin in an office in tel aviv somewhere. it only benefits israel to let people think he is still kidnapped. the israeli government offers these terms knowing they cannot be fulfilled, because lo and behold, gilad is having lunch with netanyahu somewhere. they cry foul that the Pals do not want to cooperate and then continue to use this as an excuse to continue their aggression and theft of land of the Pali people.

do you now doubt that i dont have PhD?
 

Nebor

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Hopefully each one of those thousand Palestinian criminals has a time delay hand grenade hidden in their asses.
 

woolfe9999

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gilad is prolly safe and sittin in an office in tel aviv somewhere. it only benefits israel to let people think he is still kidnapped. the israeli government offers these terms knowing they cannot be fulfilled, because lo and behold, gilad is having lunch with netanyahu somewhere. they cry foul that the Pals do not want to cooperate and then continue to use this as an excuse to continue their aggression and theft of land of the Pali people.

do you now doubt that i dont have PhD?

WTF are you babbling about here? Israel is releasing 1000 Pal prisoners in exchange for the release of an Israeli prisoner who is not actually a prisoner?
 

ThePresence

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It's a heartbreaking decision to make, but one I would not. Unfortunately Israel should have written him off unless they can free him by force. I don't see how they can justify releasing 1000 potential murderers for the life of one person. Not to mention that it rewards terrorism, and just whets their appetite to try this again. Such is the world we live in. It's a terrible decision to have to make and I'm glad I'm not the one doing it.
 

woolfe9999

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It's a heartbreaking decision to make, but one I would not. Unfortunately Israel should have written him off unless they can free him by force. I don't see how they can justify releasing 1000 potential murderers for the life of one person. Not to mention that it rewards terrorism, and just whets their appetite to try this again. Such is the world we live in. It's a terrible decision to have to make and I'm glad I'm not the one doing it.

Agreed, and if, as people have said, 1 Israeli soldier is worth 1000 Pal criminals, what are the lives of future Israeli victims of the released criminals worth?
 

JTsyo

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Yeah I vaguely do recall that they have made prisoner swaps before, but 1000:1? I can't remember anything in the past even remotely close to this. Seems really ill advised to me. Not only may the "dirtbags" re-offend, but this sends a message that kidnapping Israelis is a very profitable avenue to pursue.

yea, that's the biggest problem I see. Now all IDF personnel are seen as a "get out of jail free card" for the terrorists. Israel is usually pretty tough with its polices, I'm surprised by this. Wonder if there were terms that were not disclosed.
 

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Remember the actions that Israel took after he was taken. And the encouragement that it gave Hezbollah the following couple of years. This could easily backfire against Hamas and the Palestinian dream, IF those that are released cause trouble or others are encouraged to duplicate
 

QuantumPion

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Israel have done this before. And dont be shocked within a few weeks when these dirtbags end up dead or caught again killing people.

How could you tell the difference the released criminals and the rest of the Palestinians anyway? o_O
 

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yea, that's the biggest problem I see. Now all IDF personnel are seen as a "get out of jail free card" for the terrorists. Israel is usually pretty tough with its polices, I'm surprised by this. Wonder if there were terms that were not disclosed.

Better to use captured soldiers as bounty rather than beheading them on the internet.
 

woolfe9999

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Remember the actions that Israel took after he was taken. And the encouragement that it gave Hezbollah the following couple of years. This could easily backfire against Hamas and the Palestinian dream, IF those that are released cause trouble or others are encouraged to duplicate

I don't know man. If the released criminals commit more terrorist acts, then there's Israeli retaliation. More Pals are killed. More Israelis are killed. Peace process only gets set back which is bad for both sides. I dunno. I can't see any upside to this at all. I sincerely hope that Israel is getting more out of this than it appears. Maybe some concessions from Egypt?
 

EagleKeeper

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How could you tell the difference the released criminals and the rest of the Palestinians anyway? o_O

A majority of Palestinians are not hard core terrorists. However many are easily brainwashed by false leadership and ego sponsors.

It is the hard core that choose to bring grief upon the average person without qualms.

If this provides the opportunity for more terror attaCks, it reflects upon the statements of the Palestinians deserving statehood. They will have to put their actions where their mouths are. It makes no difference what group; all will have to be leashed.
 

JSt0rm

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Sounds about right. Of course you mix Americans into it and 12 isreali soldiers are probably worth 1 american so 12000 palistinians for 1 American.
 

QuantumPion

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A majority of Palestinians are not hard core terrorists. However many are easily brainwashed by false leadership and ego sponsors.

Really? Because I'm pretty sure they voted for Hamas to represent them by a wide margin. And even if the fix was in for that election, I've never heard of any kind of organized protest against them like in Iran and Syria.
 

fskimospy

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Really? Because I'm pretty sure they voted for Hamas to represent them by a wide margin. And even if the fix was in for that election, I've never heard of any kind of organized protest against them like in Iran and Syria.

You know that Hamas does lots of things other than commit terrorism, right?
 

woolfe9999

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Sounds about right. Of course you mix Americans into it and 12 isreali soldiers are probably worth 1 american so 12000 palistinians for 1 American.

I'm worth at least 10 American soldiers, so I'm at least equivalent to 120,000 Palestinians.