Israel takes first halting step to admitting guilt in Gaza

[Lemon law]

Sadly IHateViruses is on the wrong side of the Goldstone Report which is meticulously documented.

And also bad logic, demonstrating Israel used some legal smoke shells does nothing to prove or disprove the allegation that Israel also used illegal white Prosperous. The left over residues of which prove the use of the same.

In short, IHateViruses, as badly as you want to dis believe the evidence of the Goldstone Report, your lack of logic does nothing to refute any of the highly specific allegations in the Goldstone Report. And as Israel is already grudgingly admitting, some of the war crimes were ordered by very high ranking Israeli officials.

 

[Noobtastic]

Sadly IHateViruses is on the wrong side of the Goldstone Report which is meticulously documented.

Lemon Law, I just provided a thorough fact-filled post demonstrating Israel's use of WP.

I've been to Israel many times and am very familiar with its military and combat policies.

As far as the Goldstone Report goes...here is what its original author has to say:

We had to do the best we could with the material we had. If this was a court of law, there would have been nothing proven.

We couldn’t use that report as evidence at all.

And I wouldn’t consider it in any way embarrassing if many of the allegations turn out to be disproved.

-Richard Goldstone

 

[fallout man]

The IDF does not "shoot fish in the barrel" and the gender distribution of casualties, points of aggression, and overall combat policy prove this.

ORLY?

I've said this dozens of times and you've maliciously ignored my post, LOL!

"Maliciously ignored [your] post?" It's because I'm such a busy anti-semite, obviously.

Nobody uses white phosphorus on civilians.

In the past decade, you're pretty much on point if you disregard hot chemical Russian-on-Chechnyan action, Israeli shelling of Gaza, and Coalition of the guys from US and two other guys, in Fallujah.

Israel used no chemical weapons, incendiary, conventional weapons, or Falafel balls on civilians.

WP is a chemical and an incendiary weapon when used in proximity of any civilians--a war crime. No matter how much you dance around it, you'll never Hasbara-away the VIDEO and photographic evidence of Israel shelling civilians in Gaza with WP. Oh--Israel didn't use conventional weapons on civlians? I guess all of those women and children in Gaza tripped and fell to their deaths (because they were doing it for propaganda purposes--clearly).

What there was is the use of legit smoke shells mark M825, the only artillery ammunition in the IDF's arsenal that contains white phosphorus.

The definition of the M825 smoke shell: "designed to place quick or immediate smoke on a target for either screening enemy forces or for marking a target for further artillery bombardments."

Smoke shells are not used "on" targets (civilian or terrorists) but on an area, to cover maneuvering of forces, in this case, the eviction of injured soldiers from a firefight where they were surrounded by bigger enemy force that used UNWRA facility as a fire position, as Hamas terrorists did so many times in the past (examples? please ask for!).

B-one-niner. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot. Smokey in the tree-line: confirming L-M-A-O event. G.R.A.B.U.A.L.S.A.!!!

Again: no matter how much you dance around it, a "smoke" Mx45gtfo-sc420 a2m4eva mkII shell that disperses WP in an area where civilians may be reasonably found is "use of a chemical, incendiary weapon." There's a gray area there (successfully exploited before), but who the fuck really needs a flare mid-day, and who the fuck needs smoke for "eviction of injured soldiers from a firefight" before the troops to be rescued even entered the area? Your responses are all deception and Hasbara. Are you sure you're not getting paid to do this, boy?

Such use is not prohibited by international law. Read the Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons.

DANCE, MONKEY. DANCE!

Here is proof that Israel used the M825 smoke shell:

See the M825 to the right of the soldier? SEE IT?!

Cool story, bro. Also:

"Enhance!

Enhance!"

Gaza War:

Smoke shell exploding above Gaza City. If Israel were to use WP in a weapons-state, the shells would explode on the surface, not above ground. And the M825 cannot explode on the surface.

LOL

Cluster bombs are best when they kinda just fall down to the ground and a little door opens in the side of the bomb, so that the targets can pick up their own little piece of bomb, and then they can mess with it and the little bomb goes like *boom!* and the terrists die. Also, cocks.

P.S on a side note, Israel has delivered 10 million dollars to the administration in Gaza as a mere gesture of good will, acknowledging they are not responsible for Hammas's use in their facilities.

Why does Israel disapprove of hummus? I mean, it's a bit of a liberal kind of flavor, but I don't see why Israel has to apologize to Gazans for loving and using hummus in their facilities.


*****

You have been owned, now go apologize for Jihad somewhere else.

Try stormfront.com

You are a total twat. You've already accused me of being a Pali militant and an anti-semite, and now you've moved on to accusing me of being a Jihadist and a white-supremacist? Will the comedy (and more importantly, your bout of cognitive dissonance) ever end? Next time around, try calling me a transsexual transvestite from Transylvania just to spice things up--it would also be closer to the truth.

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Lemon Law, I just provided a thorough hasbara-filled post demonstrating Israel's use of WP. In case you forgot, let me also remind you about the Holocaust, and how Palestinians will never get their shit together so they don't deserve their land back anyway. There was also something I wanted to mention about turning desert into a paradise, but I'm a bit distracted here so I'll re-post that later.

 

[Noobtastic]

ORLY?

This isn't a response. You said the IDF "shoot fish in a barrel," and I flatly stated Israel's entire military format does not connect with that statement.

As I said before, the gender distribution of casualties (overwhelmingly combat-age males), points of aggression, etc...etc...prove this.

Now, you have facts to back up your ORLY? What is this 5th grade myspace??

"Maliciously ignored [your] post?" It's because I'm such a busy anti-semite, obviously.

I never said you were an anti-semite. I did say you ignored my post, which you did. Unless I'm mistaken.

In the past decade, you're pretty much on point if you disregard hot chemical Russian-on-Chechnyan action, Israeli shelling of Gaza, and Coalition of the guys from US and two other guys, in Fallujah.

Okay, as I said before - can you please use facts instead of hipster speak? You claimed Israel used white phosphorous on civilians - a war crime - and I proved they didn't.

Saying "ISRAEL USED WP ON CIVILIANS #$#)$*#111!!!" (this is what you sound like) is not convincing.

WP is a chemical and an incendiary weapon when used in proximity of any civilians--a war crime.

Wrong. White Phosphorus is not a war crime simply because it is used in proxmity of civilians. Feel free to point me to the G.C or Chemical Weapons Conventions that state this.

I'm waiting.

No matter how much you dance around it, you'll never Hasbara-away the VIDEO and photographic evidence of Israel shelling civilians in Gaza with WP. Oh--Israel didn't use conventional weapons on civlians? I guess all of those women and children in Gaza tripped and fell to their deaths (because they were doing it for propaganda purposes--clearly).

Video and photographic evidence is Pallywood propaganda. A picture and video proves nothing. Remember Al-dura? Jenin? Palestinians are experts at manipulating the media.

No one is disputing civilians died in this conflict, or any conflict for that matter, but you are claiming Israel used weapons "on civilians" and that simply isn't true.

B-one-niner. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot. Smokey in the tree-line: confirming L-M-A-O event. G.R.A.B.U.A.L.S.A.!!!

Did they teach you that at UC Berkley?

Again: no matter how much you dance around it, a "smoke" Mx45gtfo-sc420 a2m4eva mkII shell that disperses WP in an area where civilians may be reasonably found is "use of a chemical, incendiary weapon." There's a gray area there (successfully exploited before), but who the fuck really needs a flare mid-day, and who the fuck needs smoke for "eviction of injured soldiers from a firefight" before the troops to be rescued even entered the area? Your responses are all deception and Hasbara. Are you sure you're not getting paid to do this, boy?

What? As I said before, here is the definition of the M825 smoke shell:

"designed to place quick or immediate smoke on a target for either screening enemy forces or for marking a target for further artillery bombardments."

The IDF does not have weapons-grade WP. The US and Russian military do, but the Israelis do not. Clearly you've never been to a battlefield. Moving wounded soldiers in an urban environment is chaos and a smoke-screen is necessary to protect the extraction.

Why else would Israel use the WP? To kill civilians? Seriously?

How many civilians died due to WP?

Oh yeah, zero.

DANCE, MONKEY. DANCE!

You are a fool.

Cool story, bro. Also:

"Enhance!

Enhance!"

Yes, evidence proving Israel used M825 smoke shells.



LOL

Cluster bombs are best when they kinda just fall down to the ground and a little door opens in the side of the bomb, so that the targets can pick up their own little piece of bomb, and then they can mess with it and the little bomb goes like *boom!* and the terrists die. Also, cocks.

Cluster bombs and smoke shells are two entirely different weapons. White Phosphorous that Israel uses has a burn time of 15 minutes at best. There are no bomblets 10 year olds can pick up and blow up their arms.

But considering you have zero credibility when it comes to military weapons no doubt leftists would easily confuse two very different types of weapons.

Why does Israel disapprove of hummus? I mean, it's a bit of a liberal kind of flavor, but I don't see why Israel has to apologize to Gazans for loving and using hummus in their facilities.

What? Israel gifted 10 million to the UNRWA even though they had no legal or moral responsibility to do so. And then Hamas went and looted that same UNRWA building that they hide behind and drew Israel's fire.

Can you point me in the direction in how wars should be fought? Name me a military Israel should try to emulate? An operation similar in size but executed in more humane way than Operation Cast Lead?

Please, I'm asking.

 

[SamurAchzar]

IHateViruses, I wouldn't even bother. I thought he's a Muslim, that at least would have made it understandable why he's taking the side of the human-bombs. If he's a Christian, then he's just one of the deranged Rachel Correy types.

 

[DesiPower]

Has Hamas or Hezbollah admitted anything or surrendered any people from their part?

Hello... they are the victims?!, they are the less fortunate minorities... which world do you live in???

 

[SamurAchzar]

Hello... they are the victims?!, they are the less fortunate minorities... which world do you live in???

While how unfortunate is Hamas might be debatable, I'd like to understand why Hizballah is an "unfortunate victim". They are an heavily armed guerrilla organization who forcefully control a sovereign nation (Lebanon), on the behalf of other countries (Iran and Syria).

And about Hamas, I really think you should use the term "stupid" instead of less fortunate. Don't forget that they got Gaza strip on a silver platter and used to fire rockets from, instead of showing what a great country the Palestinians can build (obviously they can't, but then again Arabs aren't very good at building great countries, are they).

 

[CitizenKain]

While how unfortunate is Hamas might be debatable, I'd like to understand why Hizballah is an "unfortunate victim". They are an heavily armed guerrilla organization who forcefully control a sovereign nation (Lebanon), on the behalf of other countries (Iran and Syria).

And about Hamas, I really think you should use the term "stupid" instead of less fortunate. Don't forget that they got Gaza strip on a silver platter and used to fire rockets from, instead of showing what a great country the Palestinians can build (obviously they can't, but then again Arabs aren't very good at building great countries, are they).

Like Israel could stop trying to murder children long enough to let them find out.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Like Israel could stop trying to murder children long enough to let them find out.

talk about an ignorant and stoopid comment.....
For sure shock value it fail onn so many levels....

Why don`t you provide a link or some proof that Israel is TRYING to murder children...

You can`t so perhaps you should crawl back munder that ignorant rock you came from.

 

[fallout man]

IHateViruses, I wouldn't even bother. I thought he's a Muslim, that at least would have made it understandable why he's taking the side of the human-bombs. If he's a Christian, then he's just one of the deranged Rachel Correy types.

This, precisely, is why these kinds of threads devolve into what they are here at P&N.

Anyone who disagrees with you and your ilk is clearly either mooose-limm, or deranged (and always anti-semitic). There's never been an argument intricate enough to counter the deluded crazy.

Look at yourself in the mirror, and really try to dwell on your thoughts and comments when you do it.

Also, why are my tax dollars funding your douche-baggery?

 

[Noobtastic]

Anyone who disagrees with you and your ilk is clearly either mooose-limm, or deranged (and always anti-semitic). There's never been an argument intricate enough to counter the deluded crazy.

I never called you antisemite. I was very patient, responded to all of your allegations, and provided facts to back up your arguments.

If you continue to dodge the facts, yet do not halt your obsessive and debunked attacks on Israel, I'd say it is natural some users might accuse you of harboring antisemitic feelings considering your opinion of Israel is not dependent on facts.

After all, what is your motivation? Does your life such and your looking to project your failures on the Jewish state? Did a Jew steal your job? Are you man that Israel is better at dealing with enemies than you are?