Israel Spent(lost) 6.8 Billion In Fighting Hezbollah

[jpeyton]

Note to Israel: bombing the general population does not eradicate the terrorists. Bullets are cheaper than bombs. Go in on foot next time, you pussies.

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Note to Israel: bombing the general population does not eradicate the terrorists. Bullets are cheaper than bombs. Go in on foot next time, you pussies.

A commander who orders his men into a fair fight when the possibility for an unfair advantage exists does not deserve to lead.

By the way, dare ya to call a veteran of this campaign a pussy to his face.

 

[jpeyton]

A commander who orders his men into a fair fight when the possibility for an unfair advantage exists does not deserve to lead.

Their commander failed their mission, and even the Israelis know it (and are investigating it).

By the way, dare ya to call a veteran of this campaign a pussy to his face.

Sure thing, where can I find one?

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

We spend that much every month in Iraq. This is a drop in the bucket, and arguably benefitted our national security more than all of the hundreds of millions we've spent on OIF. On balance I don't care if we give Israel this money or not.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Note to Israel: bombing the general population does not eradicate the terrorists. Bullets are cheaper than bombs. Go in on foot next time, you pussies.

Going in on the ground puts much more risk on the troops.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Note to Israel: bombing the general population does not eradicate the terrorists. Bullets are cheaper than bombs. Go in on foot next time, you pussies.

Going in on the ground puts much more risk on the troops.

It also gets the job done. What's more important, a safely run half-assed campaign or getting the job done?

 

[smack Down]

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Note to Israel: bombing the general population does not eradicate the terrorists. Bullets are cheaper than bombs. Go in on foot next time, you pussies.

A commander who orders his men into a fair fight when the possibility for an unfair advantage exists does not deserve to lead.

By the way, dare ya to call a veteran of this campaign a pussy to his face.

It takes a brave man to fire artillary shells at children.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Note to Israel: bombing the general population does not eradicate the terrorists. Bullets are cheaper than bombs. Go in on foot next time, you pussies.

A commander who orders his men into a fair fight when the possibility for an unfair advantage exists does not deserve to lead.

By the way, dare ya to call a veteran of this campaign a pussy to his face.

It takes a brave man to fire artillary shells at children.

That's a comment that could just as easily be directed at Hezbollah, in all fairness.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Note to Israel: bombing the general population does not eradicate the terrorists. Bullets are cheaper than bombs. Go in on foot next time, you pussies.

You know nothing about war fighting. The reason they lost and America will lose in Afghanistan and Iraq is we are unwilling to wage war conventionally, by killing civilians. Thats the way you win wars from Alexander until 1945, which is the last war we've won. We killed civiilians until they no longer supported their militants or army. Or they fear you more than thier own militants' intimidation.

These so-called 4th generation warfare is nothing new, happened in the Philippines but back when we knew how to fight we elminated a whole village where the attacks took place and that put a serious halt to the insugency. With thier eye on what happend to the next village over they were less willing to take an American life in exchange for thier whole village.

Western self analysis and narssacistic guilt trip is a serious impedement to war fighting and I think anyone enlisting in combat rates today is a fool to expose themselves to the dangers current leadership and rules of engagement they will guide you with out in the feild. House to house with pistols and rifles is asinie when you have cluster bombs?? Yeah real smart.


But you're right we are pussies not the way you think though...call me when we start waging war conventionally. No need to spend 200 million as we are on electronic jamming deices that don't work....Ill start by orderering my troops to tie a couple Imams on thier Hummers hood as an IED deterant.

 

[imported_Seer]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Note to Israel: bombing the general population does not eradicate the terrorists. Bullets are cheaper than bombs. Go in on foot next time, you pussies.

A commander who orders his men into a fair fight when the possibility for an unfair advantage exists does not deserve to lead.

By the way, dare ya to call a veteran of this campaign a pussy to his face.

It takes a brave man to fire artillary shells at children.

That's a comment that could just as easily be directed at Hezbollah, in all fairness.

You don't see the U.S. giving billions of dollar to Hezbollah.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Seer

You don't see the U.S. giving billions of dollar to Hezbollah.

You don't see Israel blowing up barracks filled with hundreds of American soldiers.

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: magomago
Perhaps once day dna you should look at the reasons why groups such as "Muslim Brotherhood" get support, instead of support a dictatorship that actively opresses many (ESPECIALLY in Eygpt).
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With double standards like that, no wonder they have come to the point where "Death to America" is a catch phrase.

You make too many assumptions about my opinions.

I believe the money given to Egypt was for development of their country; whether it is not used for that purpose is another matter. Arafat got billions, and he stashed them in Swiss bank accounts; was he also paid to deprive "his people", and to opress them?

Btw, just for the record I think the Muslim Brotherhood are largely a bunch of turds.

Yeah, I would imagine that -- with a slogan saying "Islam is the Solution", I doubt they have a development plan for the economy. They get voted in because people want change; the Palestinians also wanted change from the corrupt Fatah, and voted Hamas, however, that doesn't mean they voted for them since they supported a ban on drinking, shaving, and pop music -- they simply had no other choice.

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: smack Down
It takes a brave man to fire artillary shells at children.

It takes an even braver man to hide among children.

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: Seer
You don't see the U.S. giving billions of dollar to Hezbollah.

Don't worry, that may very well happen if any aid is given to Lebanon for "reconstruction".

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: dna

Originally posted by: smack Down
It takes a brave man to fire artillary shells at children.

It takes an even braver man to hide among children.

The AQ & Hezbollas of the world are just using what weapons they have, playing on western sensibilites in this case appalled by "innocent" collateral damage. Works like charm. I actually admire the Hassan Nasrallah's of the world much more than Omerts and Bush's. They use all weapons at thier disposal for victory and have the mental fortitude to wage war conventionally.

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: Zebo
The AQ & Hezbollas of the world are just using what weapons they have, playing on western sensibilites in this case appalled by "innocent" collateral damage. Works like charm. I actually admire the Hassan Nasrallah's of the world much more than Omerts and Bush's. They use all weapons at thier disposal for victory and have the mental fortitude to wage war conventionally.

I really wouldn't say they have "mental fortitude" -- they simply aren't constrained by morality.

What they are to be admired for is how they do manipulate the media and -- as you said -- play on Western sensibilities. Notice their success from the comment made by the weak-minded that started this exchange.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: dna

Originally posted by: Zebo
The AQ & Hezbollas of the world are just using what weapons they have, playing on western sensibilites in this case appalled by "innocent" collateral damage. Works like charm. I actually admire the Hassan Nasrallah's of the world much more than Omerts and Bush's. They use all weapons at thier disposal for victory and have the mental fortitude to wage war conventionally.

I really wouldn't say they have "mental fortitude" -- they simply aren't constrained by morality.

What they are to be admired for is how they do manipulate the media and -- as you said -- play on Western sensibilities. Notice their success from the comment made by the weak-minded that started this exchange.

I wouldn't debase thier humanity to such an extent..they certainly care about innocent they are putting in harms way but it's worth it from a strategic standpoint. While they lost 1000 or so, ie lost the battle, they won the war due to international pressure on israel, they will get tones of aid, and most importantly Hezbolla now has an excuse and support for it's continued existance and arming futher. Now the UN says they don't even have to disarm a retreat from UN's earlier position. Smart man that Nasrallah.

BTW some of why I say they care is because when I watch the video terorist attacks or head chop hour on fellow muslims by the muslim perps is they weep in between mumbleing Allah u Akbar.. understanding the loss and killing in nessesary for the cause.

 

[imported_peachee]

As a U.S. tax payer, I demand that my tax dollars do not go to Israel to fund its "activities!"

Israel needs to make it's own economy. It can't keep taking free money from the U.S.

It is as simple as that!

 

[Aisengard]

Do you, peachee, also demand that your federal tax dollars not go towards Egypt and their corrupt leaders and failing economy? Or heck, how about Saudi Arabia, our next-best 'friends' in the Middle East? We give Israel a ton, but compared to everyone else we give money to, it's damn well worth it.

EDIT: And Zebo, so you're saying as long as we feel sorry about it and it serves our purposes, it's okay to kill indiscriminately?

Then you should be all for Israel's policy, which is, even if there is only an accusation, apologize first, investigate later.

 

[straightalker]

Originally posted by: peachee
As a U.S. tax payer, I demand that my tax dollars do not go to Israel to fund its "activities!"

Israel needs to make it's own economy. It can't keep taking free money from the U.S.

It is as simple as that!

Israel is given the free Billions so they have that money on hand to funnel right back to Washington DC Legislators through AIPAC in the form of bribes. See what i'm saying.

Same principle works in so many other things. They first need the plausible excuse to raid the U.S. Treasury of billions. Then that horde of cash is "given away free", after which the pie is divided up in secret.

If it's too much hassle to transport those billions by C-130, they just set up a U.S. Treasury printing press right there in the recieving Nation. There's one in Iraq going 24/7 printing most likely 100$ bills. Since the weight of a billion dollars in 20$ bills would be several tens of tons.

And you're right about Israel being made responsible for their own financial independence. They can do it with their industry, since they are very skilled at producing high end products just like the Swiss. They also have the backing of super rich Bankers.

 

[smack Down]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: Seer

You don't see the U.S. giving billions of dollar to Hezbollah.

You don't see Israel blowing up barracks filled with hundreds of American soldiers.

Yes they only blow up US ships and UN outposts

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Aisengard
Do you, peachee, also demand that your federal tax dollars not go towards Egypt and their corrupt leaders and failing economy? Or heck, how about Saudi Arabia, our next-best 'friends' in the Middle East? We give Israel a ton, but compared to everyone else we give money to, it's damn well worth it.

EDIT: And Zebo, so you're saying as long as we feel sorry about it and it serves our purposes, it's okay to kill indiscriminately?

Then you should be all for Israel's policy, which is, even if there is only an accusation, apologize first, investigate later.

The only people killing indiscriminatly are Hezbolla who makes no bones about it: Every Jew, civilians women and children alike is a target of thier indiscriminate missle fire. If Israel wanted to kill indiscriminatly whole towns would be vaporized in southern Lebanon without taking a single Israeli loss. But the Jews are fools putting thier men on the line and waste materials going house to house and men on the ground to laser ID targets for guided bombs.


And I don't really have a problem with Hezbolla's methods as they are fighting conventionally. Thats the way you win wars from Alexander until 1945, which is the last war we've won. We killed civiilians until they no longer supported their militants or army. Or they fear you more than thier own militants' intimidation.

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

Originally posted by: straightalker

Originally posted by: peachee
As a U.S. tax payer, I demand that my tax dollars do not go to Israel to fund its "activities!"

Israel needs to make it's own economy. It can't keep taking free money from the U.S.

It is as simple as that!

Israel is given the free Billions so they have that money on hand to funnel right back to Washington DC Legislators through AIPAC in the form of bribes. See what i'm saying.

Same principle works in so many other things. They first need the plausible excuse to raid the U.S. Treasury of billions. Then that horde of cash is "given away free", after which the pie is divided up in secret.

If it's too much hassle to transport those billions by C-130, they just set up a U.S. Treasury printing press right there in the recieving Nation. There's one in Iraq going 24/7 printing most likely 100$ bills. Since the weight of a billion dollars in 20$ bills would be several tens of tons.

And you're right about Israel being made responsible for their own financial independence. They can do it with their industry, since they are very skilled at producing high end products just like the Swiss. They also have the backing of super rich Bankers.

Uhhh ok.