Israel proposes 10-month West Bank settlement halt

[JEDIYoda]

Israeli policy towards the Palestinians is driven by the Settlers, who *covet* what little the Palestinians possess

actually thats not true at all...your being delusional...and your showing your total lack of knowledge concerning the disputed lands in that part of the world., and who regard Palestinians as dangerous vermin and an impediment to their God-given right to the land. Very straightforward.
The truth is no Israeli considers the Palestinian people dangerous "vermin", the fact is the Palestinians are their own worse anemy and the Israeli`s continually shake their heads at the people the Palestinians elect to lead them.

That's the underlying truth wrt any Israeli govt statements about peace- they don't want it, not with the Palestinians, and have been more than willing to trade peace for territory all along.

It`s people like you who virtually guarantee there will be no Peace in that part of the world.

If there were no violent resistance from the Palestinians, they'd find a way to foment it, to have an excuse for what they want to do anyway.

no they would not. There would be a lasting Peace! The problem is with those be it Hamas or fatah or others, who are out for one thing and that is to guarantee there will never be peace!

They offer a temporary halt to settlement only because they're under a lot of pressure to declare a permanent halt, and to withdraw from part of what they've taken. Stalling for time, looking for plausibility to support future expansion.

Most of the rest of the world sees this

ya think....

, and would sanction Israel into a state of reasonableness if it weren't for US vetoes in the UN. Israel does not have a complete economy nor the resources to withstand such sanctions for long, at all, despite the ignorant ravings expressed in this thread and others.

it`s obvious that you know little about Israel or the economy of Israel. You really need to do some reading...the open mouth and insert foot!

None of these discussions would be complete w/o reference to the Holocaust, of course, to the guilt trip America has taken on because of it, and to our perceived need to protect Israel from a future occurrence.

As I have stated over and over again, anybody who honestly believes that Israel for one minute needs our assistance in delusional!!

We can do that w/o allowing our Israeli friends to impose their own slow motion version of Lebensraum nice veiled reference to Hitler on neighboring populations.

it`s obvious you know very little about the middle east nor the plight of the palestinians or for that matter Israeli history!

We've been manipulated for decades, and judging from many of the comments here, that manipulation is as effective as it's ever been. More's the pity.

I just Love it when people own themselves==self-ownage!!

 

[Jhhnn]

I just Love it when people own themselves==self-ownage!!

Yep. Your string of bolded ontological assertions speaks for itself, most eloquently. Basically, whoever yells the loudest wins, right?

Peace with others is impossible when you relentlessly continue to take what they have for yourself, temporary respite notwithstanding. For sane individuals, that's perfectly obvious, except when it comes to Israel.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Yep. Your string of bolded ontological assertions speaks for itself, most eloquently. Basically, whoever yells the loudest wins, right?

Peace with others is impossible when you relentlessly continue to take what they have for yourself, temporary respite notwithstanding. For sane individuals, that's perfectly obvious, except when it comes to Israel.

You problem besides not knowing caca about Israel is that you think this is one sided.
the Palestinians are their own worse enemy. For both parties to sit down at the peace table there can be no set conditions. israel has offered to stop buiulding any mnew settlements for 10 months. Granted that does not include what already has been started, but Israel has offered.

Yet people as nieve and ignorant as you are can only read into what you think israel is trying to do.....
there is no harm in calling Israel on this and saying -- OK..let`s talk.....

But nooo...the Palestinians want conditions.....thus no Peace....

 

[Lemon law]

JEDIYoda, the Annapolis peace conference was with no pre- conditions. And even then Israel made no concession as it grubbed ever more land.

Your thesis just does not fit the facts.

Israel does not want a just peace but its sure excellent at blaming others for it as they have a million excuses. And too many gullible fan boys who will believe anything they say without question.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

And that is why I've been screeming to high heavens about it, as the Zionist nutjob idiots here like Common Courtesy, Freshgeardude, JEDIYoda, and SamurAchzar all keep cheering on Israel's charades while waving their fingers at anyone but Israel for the effects of their ongoing conquest of the West Bank.


You are expecting too much from them, as most Zionists can't even mange to be honest with themselves it comes to Israel, Jews and otherwise. It's a strange psychological thing, much like with WTC7 how so many people refuse to even consider anything but the official story regardless of how obvious it is that the building had been rigged to come down. Anyway, as for Jews who will tell you how it works, I recommend following Mondoweiss.


Currently and historically, Palestinians have never been asking for any hand outs, and only for Israel to respect what is theirs under international law, while Israel has become increasingly more belligerent in their refusal to accept peace on any such grounds. It is Palestinians who were tricked into handing over anything beyond the West Bank and Gaza strip, and as they got nothing to show for it they won't fall for that again.


Israel is more of an ethnocracy than a proper democracy, but that beats living under Israeli martial law as the millions of Palestinians without Israeli citizenship do.


Being secular does nothing to stop you and many others from being feeble minded zealots. Besides there are plenty of militant religious nutcases on the Israeli side too, as noted here:


And by "Land of Israel" they are referring to presumed Biblical borders rather than those of the State of Israel under international law.

Son, do not EVER associate my words with your fucked up Nazist propaganda ever again.

I am NOT shitting you, do NOT do that EVER again.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

JEDIYoda, the Annapolis peace conference was with no pre- conditions. And even then Israel made no concession as it grubbed ever more land.

Your thesis just does not fit the facts.

Israel does not want a just peace but its sure excellent at blaming others for it as they have a million excuses. And too many gullible fan boys who will believe anything they say without question.

You'll have to excuse him, he doesn't speak any language well, i asked him to communicate with me in six languages and apparently he doesn't know Hebrew, English, Spanish, German or Francais.

He DOES know "FOS" language though.

 

[JEDIYoda]

You'll have to excuse him, he doesn't speak any language well, i asked him to communicate with me in six languages and apparently he doesn't know Hebrew, English, Spanish, German or Francais.

He DOES know "FOS" language though.

I know...I pray for lemon law everyday!!

 

[kylebisme]

Son, do not EVER associate my words with your fucked up Nazist propaganda ever again.

I am NOT shitting you, do NOT do that EVER again.

What have you deluded yourself in calling Nazist propaganda? I never have and never would engaging in anything of the sort.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

I know...I pray for lemon law everyday!!

I don't pray, but if i did, i'd pray for peace in Israel.

I have family on the border and they have lived in shelter pretty much the last ten years.

Unfortunantly the Israeli leaders won't do shit about it but expanding settlements in other areas and moving their own families there instead.

Corrupted twats that pretend they want peace, i'm sorry, they don't and as long as they are there and making millions from it they will never want peace.

Aleichem Shalom.

 

[Jhhnn]

While I disagree with Kylebisme on many subjects, I want to thank him for the link to Mondoweiss, and would encourage others to peruse its content. Their use of the phrase "protection racket" is interesting, to say the least, and dovetails nicely with the whole holocaust guilt trip routine.

 

[JEDIYoda]

While I disagree with Kylebisme on many subjects, I want to thank him for the link to Mondoweiss, and would encourage others to peruse its content. Their use of the phrase "protection racket" is interesting, to say the least, and dovetails nicely with the whole holocaust guilt trip routine.

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