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Originally posted by: lozina
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
doesn't work that way. the palestinians lost in multiple wars of aggression and intended genocide, they don't dictate the terms of peace let alone the final borders.

Yeah, because we all know it was the glorious Palestinian air force which launched an early morning surprise attack to destroy all Israeli aircraft while they sat on their runways- oh wait a minute!

I usually stay out of P&N discussions, but I couldn't resist it. I must respond to this remark of yours.

I have considered you Pro-Arab for a long time now, but in many situations I could almost sense the Anti-Semitism in you... You have worked hard, so it seems, to carefuly hide the fact that you are a racist, unfortunately not everyone's perfect and this post only proves it.

Let it forever be a testimony - quoted in this thread, and kept in the ATP&N board archive!
 
Originally posted by: Trente
Originally posted by: lozina
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
doesn't work that way. the palestinians lost in multiple wars of aggression and intended genocide, they don't dictate the terms of peace let alone the final borders.

Yeah, because we all know it was the glorious Palestinian air force which launched an early morning surprise attack to destroy all Israeli aircraft while they sat on their runways- oh wait a minute!

I usually stay out of P&N discussions, but I couldn't resist it. I must respond to this remark of yours.

I have considered you Pro-Arab for a long time now, but in many situations I could almost sense the Anti-Semitism in you... You have worked hard, so it seems, to carefuly hide the fact that you are a racist, unfortunately not everyone's perfect and this post only proves it.

Let it forever be a testimony - quoted in this thread, and kept in the ATP&N board archive!

ermm.. quote the wrong reply or something?
 
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Trente
Originally posted by: lozina
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
doesn't work that way. the palestinians lost in multiple wars of aggression and intended genocide, they don't dictate the terms of peace let alone the final borders.

Yeah, because we all know it was the glorious Palestinian air force which launched an early morning surprise attack to destroy all Israeli aircraft while they sat on their runways- oh wait a minute!

I usually stay out of P&N discussions, but I couldn't resist it. I must respond to this remark of yours.

I have considered you Pro-Arab for a long time now, but in many situations I could almost sense the Anti-Semitism in you... You have worked hard, so it seems, to carefuly hide the fact that you are a racist, unfortunately not everyone's perfect and this post only proves it.

Let it forever be a testimony - quoted in this thread, and kept in the ATP&N board archive!

ermm.. quote the wrong reply or something?

I'm not surprised, not one bit
 
Originally posted by: Trente
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Trente
Originally posted by: lozina
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
doesn't work that way. the palestinians lost in multiple wars of aggression and intended genocide, they don't dictate the terms of peace let alone the final borders.

Yeah, because we all know it was the glorious Palestinian air force which launched an early morning surprise attack to destroy all Israeli aircraft while they sat on their runways- oh wait a minute!

I usually stay out of P&N discussions, but I couldn't resist it. I must respond to this remark of yours.

I have considered you Pro-Arab for a long time now, but in many situations I could almost sense the Anti-Semitism in you... You have worked hard, so it seems, to carefuly hide the fact that you are a racist, unfortunately not everyone's perfect and this post only proves it.

Let it forever be a testimony - quoted in this thread, and kept in the ATP&N board archive!

ermm.. quote the wrong reply or something?

I'm not surprised, not one bit
ok, good for you then
 
ignorant of history is the czar, not surprised. the twit in question basically questioned israels right to prevent genocide. thinly veiled but obvious to anyone who bothers to look. the cowards never will come straight out and say what they truely believe, just insinuate at things that would lead to things they know are too horrible to say.
 
stop for a moment there 0roo0roo before you close your eyes completely to the world

Israel had the right in my opinion to strike first in that war, no doubt about that, the evidence of an imminent invasion was so great. But how you lump all the arab nations involved as "palestinians" and then use that war as a reason for not wanting the palestinians to have anything is extremely arrogant. That was what half of what lozina was pointing out in case you missed it.
 
Originally posted by: Czar
stop for a moment there 0roo0roo before you close your eyes completely to the world

Israel had the right in my opinion to strike first in that war, no doubt about that, the evidence of an imminent invasion was so great. But how you lump all the arab nations involved as "palestinians" and then use that war as a reason for not wanting the palestinians to have anything is extremely arrogant. That was what half of what lozina was pointing out in case you missed it.


The point totally flew over his head. Instead him and Trente would rather grasp for straws by calling me a racist lol. It just goes to show how some people are: if you can't put up a decent argument, just go for the race card! It's a simple derailment attempt designed to avoid the issue at hand and instead try to put me on the defensive. Sad, really.
 
Originally posted by: lozina
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
doesn't work that way. the palestinians lost in multiple wars of aggression and intended genocide, they don't dictate the terms of peace let alone the final borders.

Yeah, because we all know it was the glorious Palestinian air force which launched an early morning surprise attack to destroy all Israeli aircraft while they sat on their runways- oh wait a minute!

And of course, the Palestinians have had there cities, shopping areas, schools, public transportation system and resorts targeted by Jewish suicide bombers.

Israel does not feel secure with the Palestinians at this point; There are Palestinian political parties that are sworn to destroy Israel.

Israel has not attempted to destroy the Palestian people in anyway that the Arab people (including the Pals) have tried to do to Israel.

Israel is releasing land for the promised peace. The PLO neeeds to show that they can actually deliver.

Israel is not going to sacrifice its security for hot air.

Based on your sarcastic comment regarding the IAF; look at the historical facts and situation before spewing your bias.

The Palestine Arab brothers defaulted on their agreement and acted agressive toward Israel multiple times. '67 was just a pre-emption strike against anothe war being prepared against Israel.

Where do you condem those actions and/or the existing terrorist groups sponsored by the Arabs against the Israel land.




 
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
And of course, the Palestinians have had there cities, shopping areas, schools, public transportation system and resorts targeted by Jewish suicide bombers.

No, not by Jewish suicide bombers ~ but by technologically advanced war planes and helicopters.
Israel does not feel secure with the Palestinians at this point; There are Palestinian political parties that are sworn to destroy Israel.
Have you heard of right-wing Israel political parties and their view on existence of Palestine?

Israel is releasing land for the promised peace.
That?s a very deceitful statement. It is widely known that Israel is releasing some land for demographic reasons, while at the same time grabbing more land at other places (watch any news lately?)

Israel is not going to sacrifice its security for hot air.

Based on your sarcastic comment regarding the IAF; look at the historical facts and situation before spewing your bias.
Lets not talk about bias ~ people on this forum supporting Palestinian people actually care for innocents on both sides, the same cannot be said about you? or bigots like BrooBroo.


 
usually i'm not the first to call names in these threads and in fact i ussually get attacked first, i made an exception this time since i'm sick of it. i see siwy is back to it right on que.

and once again spewing the garbage equating targeted attacks against terror leadesr with indiscriminate attacks against civilians. sorry u are simply full of sh*t. if the idf mindset was like the palestinians they'd use every single bomb they had on hand and just target every school and cafe they could find in the palestinian areas. sorry that doesn't happen. idiots like you just are immune to reason.

Israel had the right in my opinion to strike first in that war, no doubt about that, the evidence of an imminent invasion was so great. But how you lump all the arab nations involved as "palestinians" and then use that war as a reason for not wanting the palestinians to have anything is extremely arrogant. That was what half of what lozina was pointing out in case you missed it.

ugh..you are avoiding the original reason for the post which was him basically rejecting the israelis right to prevent genocide in that war of defence. he'd rather it go his way where the arab armies rampage. such comments are a revealing window into the true views of such posters who frankly are too cowardly to say what they really think. and dont even pretend the palestinians weren' heavily backing such actions. its not arrogant its reality.
 
and dont even pretend the palestinians weren' heavily backing such actions. its not arrogant its reality.

And to add on that: the Palestinians in Gaza actually formed armed infantry units, with one purpose: destroy Israel. Their dream of defeating Israel was lost after the results of that war, in which Israel took the first step. Had it not taken that step, it would have faced destruction!

{Actually, an outcome of such a scenario would have also meant Cairo and Damascus turning into glass.}

0roo0roo, don't fool Czar, Lozina and Siwy with facts. They can do better than that... :roll:
 
I think the difference between people here is that one group seem to want an acceptable sollution where both sides can get some of what they want but not all and then the other who want the isrealis all the best and think the palestinians deserve all the bad they have coming to them. Thats all there is to it.
 
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
usually i'm not the first to call names in these threads and in fact i ussually get attacked first, i made an exception this time since i'm sick of it. i see siwy is back to it right on que.
I actually have quotes to back up my claim; just say a word and I will dig them up once I get home. Everyone who?s read your posts knows you think Palestinians are garbage and equate innocent civilians with terrorists or even accuse Palestinian mothers of wanting their children to blow themselves up, with only one or two mothers as proof. That?s bigotry, look it up. I even have quotes where you admit yourself of being biased which make your opinions on this matter mute.
and once again spewing the garbage equating targeted attacks against terror leadesr with indiscriminate attacks against civilians. sorry u are simply full of sh*t. if the idf mindset was like the palestinians they'd use every single bomb they had on hand and just target every school and cafe they could find in the palestinian areas. sorry that doesn't happen. idiots like you just are immune to reason.

The mindset of extremist Palestinian and extremist Israeli is pretty much the same, the recent settler withdrawal just proves what extremists are capable of when they are being cornered and kicked out of their (supposedly their) homes. Some examples:

BBC: Israeli accused of Gaza stoning
BBC: Settler shooting shatters community

And don?t even get me started on the mindset of Israeli terrorists before they got their Apache helicopters.
 
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

ugh..you are avoiding the original reason for the post which was him basically rejecting the israelis right to prevent genocide in that war of defence. he'd rather it go his way where the arab armies rampage. such comments are a revealing window into the true views of such posters who frankly are too cowardly to say what they really think. and dont even pretend the palestinians weren' heavily backing such actions. its not arrogant its reality.

Wow you're still off in that imaginary land where you think I am rejecting Israel's "right to prevent genocide" ??? What genocide? And where do I endorse this hyptothetical genocide as you seem to imply? Why do you go crying in one post about me supposedly "putting words in your mouth" then do an about face and do exactly that to me? One word for you: hypocrite. Your already low credibility is dropping further.

The point of my remark about the Palestinian air force was that Palestine had virtually no military involvement with the Arabs in war with Israel. Where was their army? Their air force? Their tanks? They never had any! So why is their land being occupied? These Palestinians have been neglected by both the Arabs and the Israelis. No one wants to help them. It's quite a desperate situation.

Also, don't forget Israel's history. It's not only the belligerent misuse of bombs in populated areas to "target" a militant (which just os happens to also kill a dozen innocent civilians in the process) which I guess is A-OK to you. But Israel has also had it's share of terrorism and bloodshed as well. Irgun Lebanon.

 
Palestine has never existed as a state. What is called the gaza strip was once part of egypt and the west bank was once part of Jordan until arafat and his terrorists tried to kill the king. In fact it was the meddeling europeans that tried to create this nation called palestine that has never existed. European redrawing of borders has caused the majority of the worlds problems.
 
Originally posted by: Siwy
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
usually i'm not the first to call names in these threads and in fact i ussually get attacked first, i made an exception this time since i'm sick of it. i see siwy is back to it right on que.
I actually have quotes to back up my claim; just say a word and I will dig them up once I get home. Everyone who?s read your posts knows you think Palestinians are garbage and equate innocent civilians with terrorists or even accuse Palestinian mothers of wanting their children to blow themselves up, with only one or two mothers as proof. That?s bigotry, look it up. I even have quotes where you admit yourself of being biased which make your opinions on this matter mute.
and once again spewing the garbage equating targeted attacks against terror leadesr with indiscriminate attacks against civilians. sorry u are simply full of sh*t. if the idf mindset was like the palestinians they'd use every single bomb they had on hand and just target every school and cafe they could find in the palestinian areas. sorry that doesn't happen. idiots like you just are immune to reason.

The mindset of extremist Palestinian and extremist Israeli is pretty much the same, the recent settler withdrawal just proves what extremists are capable of when they are being cornered and kicked out of their (supposedly their) homes. Some examples:

BBC: Israeli accused of Gaza stoning
BBC: Settler shooting shatters community

And don?t even get me started on the mindset of Israeli terrorists before they got their Apache helicopters.

ugh once again you are blind to all differences. attacks by settlers are the exception to the rule, they are rare. whereas palestinians have during several years attempted attacks several times a day every day at times. we are talking over 6000 attacks by the palestinians from 2000 on. its only the vigilance of the idf that prevents most from succeeding in their murderous intents. the murderous intents of the palestinians simply far outstretches their ability to carry it out, but that doesn't excuse it, let alone you ignoring that simple fundamental fact. the majority of israelis denounce any wacko settlers that go crazy. the perpetrator is caught and prosecuted. whereas the palestinians hold the terrorist up as martyres and praise him in official media and teach their children to emulate their example. quite a difference. they are either dead from the suicide blast or if they are bomb makers or leaders they are sheltered. http://www.ict.org.il/articles/articledet.cfm?articleid=439
 
Originally posted by: lozina
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

ugh..you are avoiding the original reason for the post which was him basically rejecting the israelis right to prevent genocide in that war of defence. he'd rather it go his way where the arab armies rampage. such comments are a revealing window into the true views of such posters who frankly are too cowardly to say what they really think. and dont even pretend the palestinians weren' heavily backing such actions. its not arrogant its reality.

Wow you're still off in that imaginary land where you think I am rejecting Israel's "right to prevent genocide" ??? What genocide? And where do I endorse this hyptothetical genocide as you seem to imply? Why do you go crying in one post about me supposedly "putting words in your mouth" then do an about face and do exactly that to me? One word for you: hypocrite. Your already low credibility is dropping further.

The point of my remark about the Palestinian air force was that Palestine had virtually no military involvement with the Arabs in war with Israel. Where was their army? Their air force? Their tanks? They never had any! So why is their land being occupied? These Palestinians have been neglected by both the Arabs and the Israelis. No one wants to help them. It's quite a desperate situation.

Also, don't forget Israel's history. It's not only the belligerent misuse of bombs in populated areas to "target" a militant (which just os happens to also kill a dozen innocent civilians in the process) which I guess is A-OK to you. But Israel has also had it's share of terrorism and bloodshed as well. Irgun Lebanon.


it wasn't hypothetical at all. every arab leader was feeding his people blatent calls for genocide in the run up and during the wars against israel. it wasn't a hidden agenda.

and sure there are exceptions in israels history. but it doesn't compare to the palestinians consistent and total reliance on the tool of terror and their corruption of their entire society and culture to support such a sustained tactic. during many years there have been several attempted attacks per day. its telling you have to go back decades to justify the palestinians current reign of terror.

example of the barbarity you are an apologist for http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3567791.stm
the idf was restrained enough not to kill him, they only kill when necessary. the same couldn't be said of the palestinians if they had such a chance.

http://jerusalem.indymedia.org/uploads/child1.jpg9qzn2e.jpg
 
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
and sure there are exceptions in israels history. but it doesn't compare to the palestinians consistent and total reliance on the tool of terror and their corruption of their entire society and culture to support such a sustained tactic. during many years there have been several attempted attacks per day. its telling you have to go back decades to justify the palestinians current reign of terror.

Ah, I get it. So when a Palestinian (or any arab, muslim, etc.) commits such an act, it represents "a corruption of their entire society and culture;' but when an Israeli or Jew does, it's just a rare exception in Israel's history; just one of those fringe extremists who have nothing to do with Israel or it's government (you know... like Menachim Begin, who led Irgun, and Yitzhak Shamir, who led Lehi, and Ariel Sharon, who was ruled responsible for the massacres at Sabra and Shatila by the Kahan Commission and was forced to resign his position as Minister of Defence).

Just want to make sure I'm understanding, correctly, your perception... Wouldn't want to misunderstand and think you were at all biased or anything.

cumhail
 
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Siwy
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
usually i'm not the first to call names in these threads and in fact i ussually get attacked first, i made an exception this time since i'm sick of it. i see siwy is back to it right on que.
I actually have quotes to back up my claim; just say a word and I will dig them up once I get home. Everyone who?s read your posts knows you think Palestinians are garbage and equate innocent civilians with terrorists or even accuse Palestinian mothers of wanting their children to blow themselves up, with only one or two mothers as proof. That?s bigotry, look it up. I even have quotes where you admit yourself of being biased which make your opinions on this matter mute.
and once again spewing the garbage equating targeted attacks against terror leadesr with indiscriminate attacks against civilians. sorry u are simply full of sh*t. if the idf mindset was like the palestinians they'd use every single bomb they had on hand and just target every school and cafe they could find in the palestinian areas. sorry that doesn't happen. idiots like you just are immune to reason.

The mindset of extremist Palestinian and extremist Israeli is pretty much the same, the recent settler withdrawal just proves what extremists are capable of when they are being cornered and kicked out of their (supposedly their) homes. Some examples:

BBC: Israeli accused of Gaza stoning
BBC: Settler shooting shatters community

And don?t even get me started on the mindset of Israeli terrorists before they got their Apache helicopters.

ugh once again you are blind to all differences. attacks by settlers are the exception to the rule, they are rare. whereas palestinians have during several years attempted attacks several times a day every day at times. we are talking over 6000 attacks by the palestinians from 2000 on. its only the vigilance of the idf that prevents most from succeeding in their murderous intents. the murderous intents of the palestinians simply far outstretches their ability to carry it out, but that doesn't excuse it, let alone you ignoring that simple fundamental fact. the majority of israelis denounce any wacko settlers that go crazy. the perpetrator is caught and prosecuted. whereas the palestinians hold the terrorist up as martyres and praise him in official media and teach their children to emulate their example. quite a difference. they are either dead from the suicide blast or if they are bomb makers or leaders they are sheltered. http://www.ict.org.il/articles/articledet.cfm?articleid=439

Of course attacks by settlers are rare, but once again you fail to see why that is.

There is a generation of Palestinians, numbering in hundreds of thousands that know no life beyond their refugee camp. They are jobless, malnourished, with multiple families living together in the same house or apartment. Of course you will see more extremism from that group of people than from a group of people who moved into an illegally occupied land with beautiful, government subsidised, houses. You know perfectly well that when Israeli?s, not able to get what they wanted in the past, also used terrorism to achieve their goals. Now they achieve their goals with mostly US weapons, and somehow they are so glorious in your eyes even though they murder three times as many INNOCENT people.

And please, ONCE AGAIN, when you reply to my posts, do not provide Zionist sponsored links, which are biased by your own admission.
 
Originally posted by: cumhail
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
and sure there are exceptions in israels history. but it doesn't compare to the palestinians consistent and total reliance on the tool of terror and their corruption of their entire society and culture to support such a sustained tactic. during many years there have been several attempted attacks per day. its telling you have to go back decades to justify the palestinians current reign of terror.

Ah, I get it. So when a Palestinian (or any arab, muslim, etc.) commits such an act, it represents "a corruption of their entire society and culture;' but when an Israeli or Jew does, it's just a rare exception in Israel's history; just one of those fringe extremists who have nothing to do with Israel or it's government (you know... like Menachim Begin, who led Irgun, and Yitzhak Shamir, who led Lehi).

Just want to make sure I'm understanding, correctly, your perception... Wouldn't want to misunderstand and think you were at all biased or anything.

cumhail

Ohh he is biased, he said so himself....sad isn't it?
 
Originally posted by: Siwy
There is a generation of Palestinians, numbering in hundreds of thousands that know no life beyond their refugee camp. They are jobless, malnourished, with multiple families living together in the same house or apartment. Of course you will see more extremism from that group of people than from a group of people who moved into an illegally occupied land with beautiful, government subsidised, houses. You know perfectly well that when Israeli?s, not able to get what they wanted in the past, also used terrorism to achieve their goals. Now they achieve their goals with mostly US weapons, and somehow they are so glorious in your eyes even though they murder three times as many INNOCENT people.

And please, ONCE AGAIN, when you reply to my posts, do not provide Zionist sponsored links, which are biased by your own admission.

The government responsible for the Jewish survival pulled together and took care of their people, encouraged immigrations and provided opportunities for such.

The Arab governments responsible for the Palestinian peopleand there survival, turned a blind eye toward them and encourage their poverty.

The biggest problem is that the Palestinians refuse to seperate/distance thems from the rest of the Arab world.

They want their cake and eat it too.

The Arab nations are needed to support the Palestian system/government/society; However, by doing so, the Palesinians are tying thems to the Arab history and existign hatred against Israel.

Isael will not forget what the Arabs have attempted to do to them and the ongoing hatred that exists by terror sponsired attacks.

The Palestinians are considered guilt by association; due to the fact that they tolerate such actions and celebrate them.

Just recently, an attack was made into Israel. The planners were identified and the Palestiian authorities were informed where they were.

After a week, Israel went into the West Bank refugee camp to get the planners. Some militiants were killed and then the Palestinians are complaining that Israel created the problem by going into the camp.

The Palestinians seem to be overlooking the fact that
1) An attack was done against ISrael by militants
2) The planneers were identified by ISrael.
3) The Palestinian authorities did nothing about it.
4) Israel went into the camp to capture the planners.
5) Armed militants were killed.


Now:
If Israel could determine who was responsible for planning, why could not the Palestian authorities.

Could the Palestinians (authoriity or population) have known in advance of the plans and not have done anything. Israel was able to determine who was responsible within a couple of days.

Why did the authorities not act upon Israel's requestsfor capture/extradition of the planners, when they have stated that they are cracking down on terrorists.

Until the Palestinians choose to act like a responsible government, then they will have to accept the consequences of their failures. Israel will not stand by and allow the bend-over-backward-and-take-it attitude that the sympathizers of the Palestinians expect.

If they wish to be treated like an adult, then they have to behave like one. At present, this is not really happening.

 
Originally posted by: rahvin
Palestine has never existed as a state. What is called the gaza strip was once part of egypt and the west bank was once part of Jordan until arafat and his terrorists tried to kill the king. In fact it was the meddeling europeans that tried to create this nation called palestine that has never existed. European redrawing of borders has caused the majority of the worlds problems.

Of course, it was European redrawing of borders that created Israel too. Israel isn't the first country that Europeans carved out of conquered areas of the Caliphate, so it's not like there's no history for us to learn from. The First Crusade established the Kingdom of Jerusalem, with borders quite similar to modern Israel, in 1099. It lasted until Western nations stopped providing military support.
 
Originally posted by: JackStorm
Also, I'm sure we all know they were wasting to much resources protecting those 8000 settlers in Gaza. Them giving up Gaza and conserving resources, while at the same time tightening their control over the west bank was just a smart move on Israels part.

So it sure as hell wasn't surrender on Israels part.

True. I'm not sure why people don't understand Sharon's policy. He's attempting to create a sustainable state with defensible borders. Gaza, with its 1.2 million Palestinians and few thousand settlers, was a drain on Israel's resources. He's giving it up for the same reason the Romans gave up the northern part of Great Britain: there's little benefit to holding it and the cost of holding it is large.

 
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
The government responsible for the Jewish survival pulled together and took care of their people, encouraged immigrations and provided opportunities for such.

The Arab governments responsible for the Palestinian peopleand there survival, turned a blind eye toward them and encourage their poverty.

The biggest problem is that the Palestinians refuse to seperate/distance thems from the rest of the Arab world.

They want their cake and eat it too.

The Arab nations are needed to support the Palestian system/government/society; However, by doing so, the Palesinians are tying thems to the Arab history and existign hatred against Israel.

Isael will not forget what the Arabs have attempted to do to them and the ongoing hatred that exists by terror sponsired attacks.

The Palestinians are considered guilt by association; due to the fact that they tolerate such actions and celebrate them.

Just recently, an attack was made into Israel. The planners were identified and the Palestiian authorities were informed where they were.

After a week, Israel went into the West Bank refugee camp to get the planners. Some militiants were killed and then the Palestinians are complaining that Israel created the problem by going into the camp.

The Palestinians seem to be overlooking the fact that
1) An attack was done against ISrael by militants
2) The planneers were identified by ISrael.
3) The Palestinian authorities did nothing about it.
4) Israel went into the camp to capture the planners.
5) Armed militants were killed.


Now:
If Israel could determine who was responsible for planning, why could not the Palestian authorities.

Could the Palestinians (authoriity or population) have known in advance of the plans and not have done anything. Israel was able to determine who was responsible within a couple of days.

Why did the authorities not act upon Israel's requestsfor capture/extradition of the planners, when they have stated that they are cracking down on terrorists.

Until the Palestinians choose to act like a responsible government, then they will have to accept the consequences of their failures. Israel will not stand by and allow the bend-over-backward-and-take-it attitude that the sympathizers of the Palestinians expect.

If they wish to be treated like an adult, then they have to behave like one. At present, this is not really happening.

You have no proof that present Palestinian government lead by Abbas supports terrorist acts. I would like to see proof, so please provide a link or I will assume you?re just making it up.

I?m not sure if you remember but Arafat is gone and Abbas is an outspoken supporter of peaceful negotiations. As far as we can see, Abbas does everything he can to stop terrorism. The situation created by Israeli?s oppression is such that police forces are outgunned by groups like Hamas and cannot be eliminated outright or Abbas will face civil war.

You accuse Palestinians of not catching the attackers but totally ignore that Israelis are guilty of the exact same thing:

2001 US Departmen of State Report: ?The IDF generally did not investigate incidents in which security forces killed and injured Palestinians? Hey, but according to you that is hanky dory, right. I think you should join the ranks of BrooBroo and admit your bias.
 
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