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kylebisme

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What is funny is that you are too feeble minded to even conceptualize my position, you fucking moron.
 

Freshgeardude

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and he also thinks that a small piece of land compared to the entire arab world is enough to teach hate to your children, like you said use human shield, attack innocent civilians, and even attack from other countries such as lebanon, or kill your own people if they dont obey your EVERY wish.
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: TheSnowman
What is funny is that you are too feeble minded to even conceptualize my position, you fucking moron.

Your position is so simple you think its complicated. As I said, it is relatively humorous that you have no problem sending innocents to there death in order to archive your idea of fairness. There use to be a saying for that, the ends justified the means and it was used to validate everything from colonizing to firebombing Dresden. You are pathetic and bloodthirsty and attempt to give more meaning than deserved to your simplified ideals.

There is a difference in wanting a two state solution through peaceful measures of compromise, and between wanting a two state solution no matter the cost. You fall into the latter category which makes you as bloodthirsty as the Zionist among others.
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: freshgeardude
and he also thinks that a small piece of land compared to the entire arab world is enough to teach hate to your children, like you said use human shield, attack innocent civilians, and even attack from other countries such as lebanon, or kill your own people if they dont obey your EVERY wish.

I don't support engaging in any such heathenism to rob people of their homeland, that is your bag, though apparently only because you lack the intellect to see you are doing just that.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Originally posted by: Ozoned
Wrong. YOU don't support "might makes right".

There is NOTHING you can point to historically that pacifism works. You can spend your entire life flapping your lips, expressing your mock outrage, but your life will be wasted. Leave the words behind, and pick up a real weapon, and FIGHT for what you believe in, and then you will see what popular support really is. History has taught the Jewish people this lesson. In the end, might will make right, with history giving or denying them a victory. THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND.

I don't support savagery, but I am no pacifist either. Rather simply I am a man who respects justice, like the vast majority of the world. Though I can see how it would be hard for a satanic fucker likely yourself to grasp that.

Anyway, here is another video from some more noble Israelis working to end this insanity, along with a quote from one of them:

http://www.normanfinkelstein.c...icle.php?pg=11&ar=2591


So know you know what the vast majority of the world wants.......
I suspect the vast majority of he world does not want the type of peace achieved via your means....
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Your position is so simple you think its complicated.

I know my position is simple, just obviously not simple enough for a moron like your to grasp.

Originally posted by: RichardE
As I said, it is relatively humorous that you have no problem sending innocents to there death in order to archive your idea of fairness.

Actually, I've been trying to convince you of the stupidity of doing that. But you obviously revel in stupidity, and have no interested in being convinced to do otherwise.
 

palehorse

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Simple question for TheSnowman:

Do you believe that Hamas is a terrorist organization and that all of its members need to be captured and/or killed?
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
So know you know what the vast majority of the world wants.......
I suspect the vast majority of he world does not want the type of peace achieved via your means....

I support the means the vast majority of the world votes to archive every year at the UN for decades, but unfortunately the misguide fuckers who run the US government insist on avoiding peace at any cost to continue Israel's mad conquest over what little of Palestine is left.
 

Freshgeardude

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I love it how snowman hasnt said a single sentence today without trying for it to not be insulting.

is that all you have? you can only mock us, tell us we are stupid, or that we dont understand this conflict? have you ran out of crap to say and we are still going?
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: palehorse
Simple question for TheSnowman:

Do you believe that Hamas is a terrorist organization and that all of its members need to be captured and/or killed?

I know Hamas is an organization which resorts to terrorism, much like the IRA did. I also now that we will never capture and kill them all, much like we never did with the IRA.
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Originally posted by: RichardE
Your position is so simple you think its complicated.

I know my position is simple, just obviously not simple enough for a moron like your to grasp.

Originally posted by: RichardE
As I said, it is relatively humorous that you have no problem sending innocents to there death in order to archive your idea of fairness.

Actually, I've been trying to convince you of the stupidity of doing that. But you obviously revel in stupidity, and have no interested in being convinced to do otherwise.

Namecalling? That is kind of sad. No, you've been trying to convince us that killing knowing terrorists is wrong all the while calling for a type of appeasement style of diplomacy to be used with Hamas. "Oh it's ok that they kill innocents, it's only a few, and Israel is so mean". Your position lacks morals, lacks justification, lacks any example of in history of ever working not to mention lacks any chance of a credible solution to formalize. As much as you think killing innocents justifies the end it does not. Sad you and Dahunan both cannot see your own lack of morals and ethics you portray not to mention your own justifications for death you make in the name of something more "fair".
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: freshgeardude
I love it how snowman hasnt said a single sentence today without trying for it to not be insulting.

is that all you have? you can only mock us, tell us we are stupid, or that we dont understand this conflict? have you ran out of crap to say and we are still going?

I've simply been responding on the level you've addressed me.
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Namecalling? That is kind of sad. No, you've been trying to convince us that killing knowing terrorists is wrong..
The fuck I have, you fucking moron.
 

Freshgeardude

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have I said you are a fucking moron and you are too stupid to comprehend this conflict. and that your stupidity is overwhelming any time today?


or crap like that? No I havent or has richardE or jedi or anyone else defending their position
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Originally posted by: RichardE
Namecalling? That is kind of sad. No, you've been trying to convince us that killing knowing terrorists is wrong..
The fuck I have, you fucking moron.

Sure you have, telling us that going over Hamas as useful because we would never kill them all, advocating a policy of appeasement rather than one of action, justifying Hamas using innocents as human shields (That one is a big one, you deciding that the value of a terrorist is more valuable than one of an innocent.) You have some romantic notion that Hamas fights for some ideal and represents the pinnacle of anti-Western colonization. In reality it is a terrorist organization grappling its hands on the only power it has stumbled upon ever.

So yes, you have been trying to convince us that killing knowing terrorists is wrong.
 

Freshgeardude

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still snowman, I still have not heard what your opinion on the matter I posted.

is a small piece of land compared to the entire arab world is enough to teach hate to your children, like you said use human shield, attack innocent civilians, and even attack from other countries such as lebanon, or kill your own people if they dont obey your EVERY wish ontop of many other things I haven't thought of at this moment.


you and I both know it is not worth over 60 years of fighting. secondly any country that may have lost a piece of land logically wont fight about it for 60 years after they lost it in 3 wars.


if the US took <1% of mexico, south of texas, to make texas bigger. do you honestly think mexico would fight over that piece of land for over 60 years?

Now I am not saying Texas is going to take that land obviously, but if mexico started using that land as a place to hide when they went across the border to attack texas towns and then the US had a war with mexico and mexico lost and the US took the land to protect themselves, why would it be the US at fault?
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Originally posted by: RichardE
Namecalling? That is kind of sad. No, you've been trying to convince us that killing knowing terrorists is wrong..
The fuck I have, you fucking moron.
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So yes, you have been trying to convince us that killing knowing terrorists is wrong.

No I am not doing anything of the sort, your are just making more moronic arguments to convince yourself I am doing that.

Originally posted by: freshgeardude

is a small piece of land...

you and I both know it is not worth over 60 years of fighting. secondly any country that may have lost a piece of land logically wont fight about it for 60 years after they lost it in 3 wars.

I know it isn't worth it, but you have conviced yourself to defend Israel's conquest over that small peace of land and the millions of humans that live on it.
 

Freshgeardude

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you really have to get over the point that the palestinians lost the land in a war they started

secondly, you never commented on why you cant respond one post without insulting
 

kylebisme

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You have to come to grips with the fact that there are millions of people living on the land you claim they lost, millions who are born and die on under the tyranny of Israel's ongoing conquest over that land while stacking piles of bodies in it's path.

The West Bank and Gaza are Palestine, and Israel has no right to that land, only the military might and the diplomatic backing of the US to perpetuate their savage conquest over it. Practically the whole world understands these facts, as evidenced by the longstanding voting record of the UN.

Can you please face the reality that robbing people of their homeland is inherently wrong?
 

palehorse

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Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Originally posted by: palehorse
Simple question for TheSnowman:

Do you believe that Hamas is a terrorist organization and that all of its members need to be captured and/or killed?

I know Hamas is an organization which resorts to terrorism, much like the IRA did. I also now that we will never capture and kill them all, much like we never did with the IRA.
You didn't answer the question.

shocker.

Let's try this one: Do you support Hamas, specifically, yes or no?

Please read that question carefully before you attempt to give more than a one-word response...
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Originally posted by: RichardE
Namecalling? That is kind of sad. No, you've been trying to convince us that killing knowing terrorists is wrong..
The fuck I have, you fucking moron.
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So yes, you have been trying to convince us that killing knowing terrorists is wrong.

No I am not doing anything of the sort, your are just making more moronic arguments to convince yourself I am doing that.

Originally posted by: freshgeardude

is a small piece of land...

you and I both know it is not worth over 60 years of fighting. secondly any country that may have lost a piece of land logically wont fight about it for 60 years after they lost it in 3 wars.

I know it isn't worth it, but you have conviced yourself to defend Israel's conquest over that small peace of land and the millions of humans that live on it.

Not making any arguments, I'm reading your arguments at face value and easily coming to that conclusion as are many people. I think it is you who has a odd perspective on your own opinions who does not realize exactly what he stands for.
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: palehorse
Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Originally posted by: palehorse
Simple question for TheSnowman:

Do you believe that Hamas is a terrorist organization and that all of its members need to be captured and/or killed?

I know Hamas is an organization which resorts to terrorism, much like the IRA did. I also now that we will never capture and kill them all, much like we never did with the IRA.
You didn't answer the question.

shocker.

Let's try this one: Do you support Hamas, specifically, yes or no?

Please read that question carefully before you attempt to give more than a one-word response...

I don't support terrorism at all, from Hamas or otherwise.

I do support killing if not capturing of all terrorists, Hamas or otherwise.

Any chance you could reread my previous response to see how that answer was presented to explain as much? Please take however much time you might need to come up with the answer, and don't forget to make use of the fact that this is an open book question.
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: dahunan
I am very sorry for being so emotional.. in these threads but their focus is to lie and make others look bad by calling them anti-semites and jew haters and all that shit... I just hate it.. I really do... they also act like they never did anything wrong and are ALWAYS the innocent defender :(

Are you not the one who said you would be ready to fire up the ovens?

Yep, I think anti-semite and terrorist sympathizer fits you perfectly.

YOU HAVE CROSSED THE LINE PUNK

STOP WITH YOUR LIES COWARD

YOU NEED TO FIND THAT QUOTE ... find it you lying piece of shit.. FIND IT MOTHER FUCKER
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Not making any arguments, I'm reading your arguments at face value and easily coming to that conclusion as are many people.I think it is you who has a odd perspective on your own opinions who does not realize exactly what he stands for.

You and a few others have been making many arguments to claim I support things I most certainly don't, quite simply because you are delusional. Like Freshgeardude, you have convinced yourself to defend Israel's conquest Palestine, with a bunch of historical omissions and fantasies to prevent yourself from even acknowledging the reality of what you support.
 

palehorse

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Originally posted by: TheSnowman
I don't support terrorism at all, from Hamas or otherwise.

I do support killing if not capturing of all terrorists, Hamas or otherwise.
Well then I respect your position and would only encourage you to make that more clear during future debates.

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g'day...