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Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Who gave them this "right"?
The same entity that gave Hezbollah the right to smuggle weapons.
Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Who gave them this "right"?
Originally posted by: dna
Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Who gave them this "right"?
The same entity that gave Hezbollah the right to smuggle weapons.
Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Iran?:shocked:
Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Who gave them this "right"?
Originally posted by: The Green Bean
In a muslim state, jews are free to practice whatever religion they want, even have their own leadership for all internal matters.
Originally posted by: hopeless74
hello i posted this link in another thread but i dont think anybody read it. Its an article from Kathleen Christison, former CIA political analyst who has worked on the middle east for over 30 years. Read it:
Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Iran?:shocked:
Originally posted by: pickel
As much as I feel the Isrealis are the true cause of all the trumoil by creating a country out of other people's land, I also feel they have earned this land thru the right of passage. IMO, they gave up too early as should have marched into Damascus, once and for all, winner take all. They, like the United States policy, fall short on execution after they blunder into a military conflict. Sad for those who die in vain. When will they ever learn, when will they ever learn???????????
who lived on that land when the brits where in control? and who lived on that land when the ottoman empire was in control?Originally posted by: dna
Originally posted by: pickel
As much as I feel the Isrealis are the true cause of all the trumoil by creating a country out of other people's land, I also feel they have earned this land thru the right of passage. IMO, they gave up too early as should have marched into Damascus, once and for all, winner take all. They, like the United States policy, fall short on execution after they blunder into a military conflict. Sad for those who die in vain. When will they ever learn, when will they ever learn???????????
First, I'll have to ask you to justify your claim that it was "other people's land"; keep in mind that the Brits were in charge afte WW1, and prior to that it was the Ottomans, so it would be nice if you were precise on whose land it was.
Second, if I remember history correctly, it was international pressure in 1973 that stopped Israel from advancing onto Cairo and Damascus. I'm not sure if it was a similar situation in 1967. Nevertheless, Kissinger pressed for a cease fire in 73, and then worked towards a peace agreement between Egypt and Israel, which resulted in the return of the Sinai desert(?) to Egypt. I'm sure Egypt also benefitted from the fact it didn't have to blow the same large sums on its army in preparation for some future conflict with Israel.
Say what? Different sects of Muslims want each other dead. Since when are people in Muslim states free to practice a religion other than the state sponsored one?
Originally posted by: dna
Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Iran?:shocked:
It just hit me ? you just admitted Hezbollah is Iran's tool.
I must congratulate you for finally seeing the light.
Originally posted by: dna
Originally posted by: hopeless74
hello i posted this link in another thread but i dont think anybody read it. Its an article from Kathleen Christison, former CIA political analyst who has worked on the middle east for over 30 years. Read it:
I read it, and it doesn't seem to be more than propaganda, just for the fact ? as you so clearly noted ? that she has been an analyst for 30 years.
Well, I have to say that for 30 years of experience this piece doesn't contain a lot of analysis, particularly the corruption of the PA, which, quite remarkably, after 10 years and billions and billions of dollars in aid, hasn't managed to improve the life of Palestinians, yet was successful in escalating the level of violence. There is documented evidence that people as high up as Arafat have allocated money for arming militias, not to mention that North Korean ship seized on its way to gaza with tonnes of armament destined for the Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and other groups.
Other than that, Arafat and his pals managed to fatten up their swiss bank accounts. Good job guys!
Originally posted by: novon
Originally posted by: dna
Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Iran?:shocked:
It just hit me ? you just admitted Hezbollah is Iran's tool.
I must congratulate you for finally seeing the light.
How's Israel not the US's tool? Both are wrong for arming and escalating the violence to achieve their interests. However, the recent Israel occupation was uncalled for.
Originally posted by: novon
Say what? Different sects of Muslims want each other dead. Since when are people in Muslim states free to practice a religion other than the state sponsored one?
Since ancient times, a lot of palestinians are Christian. In Iran, Jews and Christians are respected and have their own places of worship, and representation in government. You may want to expand your understanding beyond what you learn from TV.
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: The Green Bean
In a muslim state, jews are free to practice whatever religion they want, even have their own leadership for all internal matters.
Say what? Different sects of Muslims want each other dead. Since when are people in Muslim states free to practice a religion other than the state sponsored one?
Originally posted by: novon
Originally posted by: dna
Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Iran?:shocked:
It just hit me ? you just admitted Hezbollah is Iran's tool.
I must congratulate you for finally seeing the light.
How's Israel not the US's tool? Both are wrong for arming and escalating the violence to achieve their interests. However, the recent Israel occupation was uncalled for.
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: novon
Say what? Different sects of Muslims want each other dead. Since when are people in Muslim states free to practice a religion other than the state sponsored one?
Since ancient times, a lot of palestinians are Christian. In Iran, Jews and Christians are respected and have their own places of worship, and representation in government. You may want to expand your understanding beyond what you learn from TV.
Yes, it sounds like Jews are greatly respected in Iran.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Jews#Discrimination
So two wrongs do make a right? I was not aware of that.Originally posted by: The Green Bean
What about arabs being discriminated in Israel?
If that's the case, it does nothing but prove that Islam is a sham, used to control the masses, much like Christianity. Congratulations on being a tool.Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: The Green Bean
In a muslim state, jews are free to practice whatever religion they want, even have their own leadership for all internal matters.
Say what? Different sects of Muslims want each other dead. Since when are people in Muslim states free to practice a religion other than the state sponsored one?
There is no real muslims states in existence sadly. A muslim once he says he is a muslim can not be killed no matter what his beleif is or what sect he follows. What is happening today has nothing to do with Islam.
QFBS! We need a little spot remover, here. :thumbsdown: :frown: :thumbsdown:Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Originally posted by: novon
How's Israel not the US's tool? Both are wrong for arming and escalating the violence to achieve their interests. However, the recent Israel occupation was uncalled for.
QFT 100% spot on
Originally posted by: hopeless74
how is it, if you protest against israel, its either propoganda or anti semtic?
Originally posted by: Czar
who lived on that land when the brits where in control? and who lived on that land when the ottoman empire was in control?
Originally posted by: dna
Originally posted by: hopeless74
how is it, if you protest against israel, its either propoganda or anti semtic?
If you don't know by know, focusing on a single aspect of an issue is propaganda.
Example: people wailing over Palestinian refugees, while ignoring Jewish refugees actually kicked out (in one way or another) from the Arab world.