Israel again seizes a Gaza-bound arms ship

[JEDIYoda]

And, you would be OK with me storming your property and taking it - because I can. When can I come over and take everything that is yours?

Your another person who thinks inside a hole in the ground!
Just because somebody can do something does not mean they have done it or will do it!

Plus 9 times out of 10 Israel ends up giving it back.....so go figure!

 

[Lemon law]

Your another person who thinks inside a hole in the ground!
Just because somebody can do something does not mean they have done it or will do it!

Plus 9 times out of 10 Israel ends up giving it back.....so go figure!

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This has got to be one of the worst JediY posts ever. But I especially focus on.

"Plus 9 times out of 10 Israel ends up giving it back.....so go figure![/QUOTE]"

When sadly, its more like zero out of ten.

Lets start with Israel stealing Palestinian land in 1948 and creating the issue of the right to return. Still unaddressed 63 years later. Then we can talk about the wars in 1967&73 where territory was seized and occupied by Israel. 44 years and counting, Israel has not given anything back, unless you count the can't grow a weed Siana desert. Nor can we count Gaza, when Israel blockades them which hardly sets them free.

Face the facts JediY, Israel never gives anything back. And Israeli history has been nothing but take take take, with no give. And then you wonder why Israel has no friends in the region. And say its gotta be antisemitism. Sadly it may have started that way, but Israel, rather than defusing the hatreds has since done nothing but earn new hatreds.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4042591,00.html

German ship chartered by a French company under Liberian flag. Not sure how that all computes.

Apparently the crew did not know what they were transporting.

Shayetet 13, Israel's elite navy commandos seized the ship 200 miles out.

Egypt isn't doing what they promised, it's time to pick it up a bit for Israel.

Good work.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

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This has got to be one of the worst JediY posts ever. But I especially focus on.

"Plus 9 times out of 10 Israel ends up giving it back.....so go figure!"

When sadly, its more like zero out of ten.

No, it's actually more than 9 out of ten, the Israeli forces takes the ground, removes the threat and then pulls back.

Over 600 times in the last five years.

But you're Lemon Law, the worst of the fucking worst on this forum, a man who blames the parents of a crime for their childrens death...

You have no shame and you have no honor.

 

[Lemon law]

No, it's actually more than 9 out of ten, the Israeli forces takes the ground, removes the threat and then pulls back.

Over 600 times in the last five years.

But you're Lemon Law, the worst of the fucking worst on this forum, a man who blames the parents of a crime for their childrens death...

You have no shame and you have no honor.

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JOS, not only have you failed to address the two big issues regarding the wholesale Israeli theft of Palestinian land in 1948 plus the right to return, plus the continual occupation of the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem that cannot be sustained 44 years later. Then you add insult to injury but endorsing the Israel collective punishment and war crimes against the Palestinian people over 600 times. That have resulted in such proud Israeli moments like bombing the Children of Lebanese Christian in their beds. Maybe another such 600 Israeli rapes of entire countries will double Israeli honor.

Jos, you have no seeming shame, no intellect, and no honor. You may be a legend in your own mind, but me casting doubt that the murder of the Fogel family must be a certain Palestinian crime does not rise to my advocacy of the murder of anyone.

The problem is that in the whole region, there is unjustified tit on tat violence that results in nothing but murder. While I search and advocate ways to defuse the tensions, twits like you think the absolute victory of one side or the other is the only way to end conflicts.

Meanwhile back at the ranch JOS, are you winning in Afghanistan yet. How many more murdered Afghan civilians will it take for you and the Taliban to accomplish that feat of propping up the turd of the Karzai government. Almost 10 years and counting, yes I know, next year, you have only been saying that for six years now on this forum.

But there is never a tiny tiny bit of doubt in your mind, that your results do not live up to your claims?

I guess its time to award JOS the honorable idiot prize, the man with the plan no one follows.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

I'm going to pretend that i didn't say what i said and instead try to bring up old wars and your service to fend off my own shame.

Sure, if that is what you need to do to avoid feeling like you are who you actually are, then i suppose it's better than killing some random child, which you probably will eventually considering how extremist you have become on this forum.

Just as an aside, do you realise that it's your problem defending the acts of your champions that make you more frustrated or do you just disregard that?

I don't like you, not even a little bit, you are an extremist islamist, you portray the murder of children as "resistance".

I know you didn't use to be like this, but this is what happens with the radicalisation of US terrorist sympathisers.

 

[Freshgeardude]

Well that is a hell of an idea, the Arab have been bitching about Israel for years, why can't they seize every ship heading for an Israeli port. Some of the cargo is bound to be weapons that Israelis will use on them, as for everything else, seize it anyway as a weapon of war. When Israel starves to death, poof, the end of the Israeli problem for the Arabs.

Meanwhile back at the ranch, the ship Israel boarded in international waters was heading for Egypt, funny, I was not aware that Israel was in a State of war with Egypt,
or the Israel has a infallibly psychics who can know who the arms are actually intended to go to.

But wait, Israel has a retired Israeli international law expert, who gave Israel permission to act as it pleases. Surely if Israel has one international law experts, the Arab world with 50x the population can find at least 50 Arab experts to self grant the Arabs the right to seize Israeli bound ships in international waters.

And while we are at it, lets grant Israel the right to seize ships of all nations in international waters, after all, can we be sure their cargo will not fall into evil uses?

But the one thing we cannot possibly do is appeal to a world court or the UN, because the UN has already said, the Israeli blockade of Gaza has no legitimate basis. Making it quite clear, that only Israel has a right to make these determinations regarding international shipping in international waters. Without even the Israeli bother of formally declaring war against another nation.

Or should we just call it what it is, an act of Israeli piracy on the high seas.

while we are at it,

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=212317

Egyptian security officials say large quantities of mortars, rocket propelled grenades, rifles and explosives meant to reach Hamas through smuggling tunnels seized after shootout.

Talkbacks (1) Egyptian security officials on Tuesday said that Egypt's army captured five vehicles smuggling weapons into the country from Sudan, and apparently heading to Gaza, AP reported.

The officials said the vehicles were seized on Sunday after a shootout during which the drivers fled.

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They said the trucks, which were captured inside Egypt near the Sudanese border, carried large quantities of mortars, rocket propelled grenades, rifles and explosives, reported AP.

The officials said the weapons were headed to Hamas in Gaza through smuggling tunnels.

The IDF also seized a freighter ship with dozens of tons of weaponry from Iran headed for Hamas in the Gaza Strip on Tuesday.

The ship, known as Victoria, was flying a Liberian flag, and was seized by the navy in the Mediterranean Sea, 200 miles off of Israel's coast.

here is EXACTLY why egypt isnt saying anything about the ship.

they are fighting common enemies.

 

[Lemon law]

Sure, if that is what you need to do to avoid feeling like you are who you actually are, then i suppose it's better than killing some random child, which you probably will eventually considering how extremist you have become on this forum.

Just as an aside, do you realise that it's your problem defending the acts of your champions that make you more frustrated or do you just disregard that?

I don't like you, not even a little bit, you are an extremist islamist, you portray the murder of children as "resistance".

I know you didn't use to be like this, but this is what happens with the radicalisation of US terrorist sympathisers.

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Get em clue JOS, I defend nothing, in war truth is always the first causality.

But as long as there is a legitimate conflict with, truth be told villains on all sides, gets us all into what amounts to a long lasting bloody stalemate that only perpetuates the violence and injustices on all sides.

Quite frankly you are confused, there is no radicalization of terrorist sympathizers, when there is more a case of radicalization of pro- Status quo injustices.

Maybe as an example, lets take the JediY signature line, when Israel accepts violence, peace can rein. Yet when it comes at the cost of Palestinians accepting third class citizenship in the land of their own birth and also accepting they were robbed of all their rights and humanity, there is no resolving those totally contradictory positions.

And then we can take your past opposition to the Tony Blair Government, yet you somehow expect the Afghan people to accept a far more corrupt than Tony Blair government in Afghanistan. And you only blame the Taliban when they refuse.

Your problem JOS, is that you only see radicalization, when the real problem is that we have to search for a sensibility middle ground compromise that appeals to the less radical on all sides.

If everyone in the world thought exactly like JOS, oh what a wonderful world it would be, but sadly JOS, they don't, get over your legend in your own mind and start looking at conflicts from both sides.