Isn't Batman a hypocrite?

[SagaLore]

But Batman spends an enormous fortune in order for him to fist-fight criminals. If he had used that enormous fortune to provide good careers instead, then there would not be so many desperate crooks around, but also no reason for him to beat them up.

That's exactly what his wealth is doing. Without all the jobs he creates in Gotham, the city would be completely bankrupt.

 

[silverpig]

Nuke'em from orbit! It's the only way to be sure.

He mostly comes out at night... mostly.

 

[Squisher]

well, criminality is in large part a result of desperation, no?

What percentage of crime is done to provide sustenance for the criminal or their families? Desperation for hookers and blow maybe.

 

[waggy]

in the comic Wyne foundation is one of the largest charities in the world. Also he has kept business's that are not makeing a profit but employee thousands open just for that reason.

there is only so much 1 man can do. even when that one man is batman.

 

[DesiPower]

Oh ya, great idea, as a kid I would have loved to read a comic book, watch cartoon or movie about a guy who invests his murdered parents to create lots and lots of job for murders and criminals and drug dealers!! in the process, transforming criminals into kind hatred, hard working honest family guys!!! wow what a story... asshole

 

[waggy]

Oh ya, great idea, as a kid I would have loved to read a comic book, watch cartoon or movie about a guy who invests his murdered parents to create lots and lots of job for murders and criminals and drug dealers!! in the process, transforming criminals into kind hatred, hard working honest family guys!!! wow what a story... asshole

Wyne does that though. while its not always the main story it is happening. The thing about Bruce Wyne (btw don't think a DC fanboy. i HATE DC comics batman is the rare one i enjoy ..on occasion that bullshit with him being dead? wtf idiotic) is he fights crime as not just Batman but as Bruce. His Wyne foundation is huge and gives (i believe it said) billions a year. Also Bruce has kept business he owns (and even has purchased) open just for the fact of keeping people working.

One that i remember is he came to a small town where a mining company kept nearly everyone in town working. Batman and superman were there for something and people wanted to shut it down. When batman found out it was going to keep thousands of people working (not just the company but town) he purchased it even though it wouldn't make money.


btw if you can't tell i read to many fucking comic books..sigh i need a life heh

 

[Jeff7]

Surely it would be cheaper for Batman to simply purchase a quality sniper rifle, and deal with the villains that way. (I'm sorry...a Bat Rifle.)
Or hell, hire a small team of snipers. Surely one of them would score a hit, even from a considerable distance.

Or a powerful pulse laser - guaranteed straight-line fire.

Or maybe slip a little polonium into a tasty snack.

 

[JS80]

This is something I've always wondered, and that is sort of addressed in Chrisopher Nolan's Batman films.

But Batman spends an enormous fortune in order for him to fist-fight criminals. If he had used that enormous fortune to provide good careers instead, then there would not be so many desperate crooks around, but also no reason for him to beat them up.

But by making Batman so fantastically wealthy unlike most other super-heroes, the closest is Tony Stark as Ironman except he doesn't go after petty crooks like Batman, isn't it obvious that Batman is largely responsible for the crime that he fights? And that by being so rich at the expense of the poor in Gothan he is sort of abusing the lower classes for his own satisfaction?

By keeping his shares in Wayne Enterprises is he not providing good careers? If we did what you leftists want we'd tax his wealth by 100% and everyone would receive $20.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Because the Joker looks like someone who can hold down an 8-5 job and wear a tie.

You're missing the point that not everyones problems are solved by having a job. Sometimes people do bad things because...wait for it....they're just bad people. Looking at the grand scheme of things, the real bad guys he goes after are not pickpockets or people who need a meal. lol

Or the fact that some people just don't want a job.

 

[CPA]

Batman is a 1%er and therefore should be killed.

 

[waggy]

Surely it would be cheaper for Batman to simply purchase a quality sniper rifle, and deal with the villains that way. (I'm sorry...a Bat Rifle.)
Or hell, hire a small team of snipers. Surely one of them would score a hit, even from a considerable distance.

Or a powerful pulse laser - guaranteed straight-line fire.

Or maybe slip a little polonium into a tasty snack.

batman hates guns so idea 1 and 2 are out.

And depending on who is writing t he story he does not like to kill.

 

[Jeff7]

batman hates guns so idea 1 and 2 are out.

And depending on who is writing the story he does not like to kill.

Then he needs to hire someone who can overcome that little snag.

I'm thinking Sisko and Garak in the one DS9 episode.
Sisko got what he needed to prevent an invasion from succeeding, which was done so by enlisting the help of someone who could take care of all the nasty and unsavory little details. "And all it cost was the life of one Romulan senator, one criminal, and the self-respect of one Starfleet officer. I don't know about you, but I'd call that a bargain."

 

[Kreon]

Because the Joker looks like someone who can hold down an 8-5 job and wear a tie.

You're missing the point that not everyones problems are solved by having a job. Sometimes people do bad things because...wait for it....they're just bad people. Looking at the grand scheme of things, the real bad guys he goes after are not pickpockets or people who need a meal. lol

This is exactly it. Alfred addresses it in TDK. He tells a story about the jewel theifs, giving one of my favorite quotes about human nature "some men just want to watch the world burn".

 

[micrometers]

By keeping his shares in Wayne Enterprises is he not providing good careers? If we did what you leftists want we'd tax his wealth by 100% and everyone would receive $20.

typically, people become mega-rich through some sort of corruption. There is no doubt in my mind that a professional pulling down six figures does so because he works harder than a clerk making 15k/yr.

but billionnaires tend to be the beneficiaries of corruption. Look at Russia.

 

[Zeze]

All OP's issues are laughably minor when I have problems with the fundamental flaws in Batman:

1. The police are absolutely helpless and useless (as with all comic books)

2. Batman doesn't kill, therefore that retarded philosophy of his actually CAUSES more deaths and crime than needed. In real world, if Joker paraded around spraying automatic in the downtown streets, police snipers would've snorted and quickly put an end to that retard, plain and simple. Because Batman is an inefficient idiot, the TDK went on for hours enabling Joker to wreak more havoc.

 

[waggy]

All OP's issues are laughably minor when I have problems with the fundamental flaws in Batman:

1. The police are absolutely helpless and useless (as with all comic books)

2. Batman doesn't kill, therefore that retarded philosophy of his actually CAUSES more deaths and crime than needed. In real world, if Joker paraded around spraying automatic in the downtown streets, police snipers would've snorted and quickly put an end to that retard, plain and simple. Because Batman is an inefficient idiot, the TDK went on for hours enabling Joker to wreak more havoc.

he kills. the dark knight was pretty violent. the only person he REFUSES to kill is the Joker. wich i agree is fucking stupid. Even the Joker asked batman why he doesn't kill him. it would save thousands of lives. The joker wen ton to say that If batman dies he will retire and go into hideing and not kill another person. So one of the two must die to save thousands. even then the batman said he won't kill him.

but he kills others. its fucking insane.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Occupy Wayne Manor.

 

[Zeze]

typically, people become mega-rich through some sort of corruption. There is no doubt in my mind that a professional pulling down six figures does so because he works harder than a clerk making 15k/yr.

Six figures = corruption? lol. How old are you? Six figures isn't a 'lot' which requires corruption.

A professional makes six figurse because he works SMARTER than a clerk with his basic skill sets, not 'harder'.

My parents worked double shifts cleaning toilets to raise me, and still came home to cook me hot meals without fail. They worked fucking HARD. I don't make good money because I work harder than them. I merely possess education and skillsets businesses want.

 

[Zeze]

he kills. the dark knight was pretty violent. the only person he REFUSES to kill is the Joker. wich i agree is fucking stupid. Even the Joker asked batman why he doesn't kill him. it would save thousands of lives. The joker wen ton to say that If batman dies he will retire and go into hideing and not kill another person. So one of the two must die to save thousands. even then the batman said he won't kill him.

but he kills others. its fucking insane.

That's terribly stupid and an arbitrary & lazy plot device for Batman.

 

[natto fire]

thanks for the laugh, wont go to the point of calling you a idiot but ... HAHAH

Is there some kind of law somewhere that guarantees you will make a spelling and/or grammatical error when you insult someone's intelligence? Because it seems to happen every time...

 

[waggy]

That's terribly stupid and an arbitrary & lazy plot device for Batman.

I agree.

another story had (i think it was) jason todd (the robin the joker "killed") come back for revenge against the joker. He pretty much has the joker when batman saves the joker.

its a WTF plot device.

 

[micrometers]

Six figures = corruption? lol. How old are you? Six figures isn't a 'lot' which requires corruption.

A professional makes six figurse because he works SMARTER than a clerk with his basic skill sets, not 'harder'.

My parents worked double shifts cleaning toilets to raise me, and still came home to cook me hot meals without fail. They worked fucking HARD. I don't make good money because I work harder than them. I merely possess education and skillsets businesses want.

you clearly can't read.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

you clearly can't read.

Fortunately that's not a skillset that businesses want.

 

[darkxshade]

I thought Bruce Wayne was quite the philantopist. Exactly how much of his wealth are you expecting him to give up? It sounds like you wouldn't be satisfied unless he gave it all up which would then mean Batman couldnt' exist. And Gotham was at its most corrupt and worse when everyone thought he(Bruce) was dead(when he ran away).

 

[SlowSpyder]

No. Because when you start forcing people to pay for people who don't want to help themselves you end up hurting society more in the long run by creating a mentality of entitlement. Besides, that would be a boring comic, it'd be a lot like a comic about FDR but without WW2... where's the fun in New Deals and polio?