ISIS takes control of Mosul.

[Zebo]

I said back in 2010

"Just sit back bro and watch the fireworks. There is no way the Sunni will allow the " rarefied dogs" Shi'a economic and political domain over them. The only thing stopping it is US troops. "

Civil War has been hot despite US media virtual blackout to make us forget of monumental failure there and HC fundis ISIS grabbed control of Iraq's 3rd largest city which has tons of oil in the burbs. At this point I predict Iraq will become the myth Bush said it was before war even started, a global sponsor of worldwide terror and disrupt all the middle east.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Secu...hy-Mosul-s-fall-is-a-signature-moment-in-Iraq

 

[chucky2]

I wonder at what point Iraqis will realize just how bad they keep f*cking themselves...?

 

[Thebobo]

there is a thread already

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2386839

 

[cirrrocco]

freedumb.. hhurrah..

 

[Jaskalas]

I wonder at what point Iraqis will realize just how bad they keep f*cking themselves...?

Tribalism isn't that simple. The people of Iraq needed Saddam. We went and f'ed it up.

 

[werepossum]

ISIS - I remember her fondly. Maybe not quite as hot as Wonder Woman with that bondage thing going on, but still.

What?

 

[momeNt]

Finally a terrorist organization name that I would pay to see Americans fight.

It sounds like something out of GI Joe.

Go get em GI Joes!

 

[rudder]

Tribalism isn't that simple. The people of Iraq needed Saddam. We went and f'ed it up.

Sort of. I still think there would have been an entirely different outcome had Rumsfield listened to the joint chiefs and put 300,000 soldiers in Iraq initially instead of half that number. Then Bremer did not help by disbanding the Iraqi military... sending a large number of people to the non-existent unemployment line with nothing other to do than to start attacking the coalition troops.

But I am getting the general feeling that all these counties in the middle east collapse without iron fisted dictators keeping the warring religious groups apart.

 

[momeNt]

Sort of. I still think there would have been an entirely different outcome had Rumsfield listened to the joint chiefs and put 300,000 soldiers in Iraq initially instead of half that number. Then Bremer did not help by disbanding the Iraqi military... sending a large number of people to the non-existent unemployment line with nothing other to do than to start attacking the coalition troops.

But I am getting the general feeling that all these counties in the middle east collapse without iron fisted dictators keeping the warring religious groups apart.

I think the the USA should possibly start for profit occupation of these areas. It would keep the peace in the region, it would also stop any military budget concerns dead in its tracks too.

 

[cyclohexane]

Wait, but GW Bush told me mission accomplished. Why the fighting then?

 

[Kadarin]

I suspect that Islam and democracy are fundamentally incompatible.

 

[Victorian Gray]

I suspect that Islam and democracy are fundamentally incompatible.

No more incompatible than Christianity, or Judaism, or Buddhism, or [fill in religion here].

 

[Vic]

ISIS - I remember her fondly. Maybe not quite as hot as Wonder Woman with that bondage thing going on, but still.

What?

Was I the only one thinking Archer?

 

[Vic]

I suspect that Islam and democracy are fundamentally incompatible.

Yeah, cause Christianity and democracy are totally compatible. Which must be why the founding fathers rebelled against their appointed-by-divine-right Christian king.

 

[irishScott]

Come on, am I the only one?

 

[JEDIYoda]

No more incompatible than Christianity, or Judaism, or Buddhism, or [fill in religion here].

yeah right............

 

[Victorian Gray]

yeah right............

Exactly right.

 

[cuafpr]

Wait, but GW Bush told me mission accomplished. Why the fighting then?

two different missions the "accomplished" mission was the defeat of Iraq, this was the rebuilding of Iraq that failed, due to shitty polices by Bush and Obama. However Obama was the last so its on him, and its a prime reason why you never ever ever ever ever, publicly state when you are pulling troops out....

 

[Bitek]

two different missions the "accomplished" mission was the defeat of Iraq, this was the rebuilding of Iraq that failed, due to shitty polices by Bush and Obama. However Obama was the last so its on him, and its a prime reason why you never ever ever ever ever, publicly state when you are pulling troops out....

We blundered in and overturned a delicate balance of power where the Sunnis ruled for the last 1500 years.

We don't understand the history, we don't understand the politics, we don't understand the people, and they sure as shit don't want to listen to us.

We were never going to impose our will on Iraq. Not if we stayed another year or decade. We would just burn up more blood and treasure on a pointless mission.

Nice job trying to blame Obama. Some ideas were just too bad to fix.
This is all on bush and the GOP.

 

[phillyTIM]

Unfortunately, momeNt, we all have already paid dearly for the 'American fight' of the past 13 years.

We've paid monetarily as our country's economy has been seriously weakened. We've paid in blood, with the lives of our dear military service people. And we've paid in job, all that have been lost because of the financial destruction that had been wreaked on our economy.

And we're still paying in those currencies; both to this very day, and to the forseeable future ahead.

Your steroid-induced statement is nothing to take lightly.

Finally a terrorist organization name that I would pay to see Americans fight.

 

[yllus]

Come on, am I the only one?

Nope! Someone call Kenny Loggins, cuz Mosul is in the danger zone!

 

[Orignal Earl]

I think this topic is going to go huge in the up coming months
I'd rather contribute to Zebo's thread rather then Incors

Unfortunately, momeNt, we all have already paid dearly for the 'American fight' of the past 13 years.

We've paid monetarily as our country's economy has been seriously weakened. We've paid in blood, with the lives of our dear military service people. And we've paid in job, all that have been lost because of the financial destruction that had been wreaked on our economy.

And we're still paying in those currencies; both to this very day, and to the forseeable future ahead.

Your steroid-induced statement is nothing to take lightly.

Who do you blame for all this destruction to America?

 

[TerryMathews]

Was I the only one thinking Archer?

Guilty.

 

[momeNt]

Unfortunately, momeNt, we all have already paid dearly for the 'American fight' of the past 13 years.

We've paid monetarily as our country's economy has been seriously weakened. We've paid in blood, with the lives of our dear military service people. And we've paid in job, all that have been lost because of the financial destruction that had been wreaked on our economy.

And we're still paying in those currencies; both to this very day, and to the forseeable future ahead.

Your steroid-induced statement is nothing to take lightly.

Okay, fine, but fighting ISIS will actually help politician's capital compared to fighting Al-Qaeda. It's a name that has a villain ring to it. That is all I am saying.

 

[moonbogg]

Let them get strong. Let them build ships. When they sail toward our shores, we sink them.