Is Wal-Mart good for America?

[mzkhadir]

Frontline also did a story on MTV and the way they influence people.

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[Kalbi]

Originally posted by: Shawn

Originally posted by: Kalbi
yes. nothing wrong with forcing chinese manufacturings to charge less for stuff.

Even if we have a 100 billion dollar trade deficit with China?

They eventually have to spend those dollars...you can only spend dollars in the US (for the most part).

 

[Ornery]

Originally posted by: Eghck

And when theres nothing left BUT Walmart, they'll raise prices and CHOICES will be a thing of the past.

Another ATOT, genius at work. :roll:

Here's a local mom & pop shop, who survived Sears, Kmart, Sun Television, Best Buy, Circuit City, and even Walmart!

See if you can get your pea brain to figure out how they do it!

 

[redgtxdi]

Originally posted by: KK
Let them sell the chinese crap, I'll stick to selling to local authorized dealers.

That's the part you don't get. There won't BE any local authorized dealers. There will be Wal Mart..........That's it!!

Now what do you do about the lease on the building you have to make widgets with??

What about the couple machines you have to make widgets with at $80,000 a pop??

If nobody's buying your widgets, you aren't making money and unless you're independently wealthy........you're going under!!! /

 

[Modeps]

WalMart is ruining America. They own Cosco, you know what that stands for right? Chinese Off Shore COmpany.

 

[mzkhadir]

Originally posted by: Modeps
WalMart is ruining America. They own Cosco, you know what that stands for right? Chinese Off Shore COmpany.

Its Costco. Not Cosco. Walmart doesn't own Costco.

Here is a profile of Costco:
Costco Wholesale Corporation Company Profile


Wal-Mart isn't the biggest in "every" business. Costco Wholesale is the largest wholesale club operator in the US (ahead of Wal-Mart's SAM'S CLUB). The company operates more than 415 membership warehouse stores serving 42 million cardholders in 36 US states and Puerto Rico, Canada, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and the UK, primarily under the Costco Wholesale name. Stores offer discount prices on, on average, 4,000 products (many in bulk packaging), ranging from alcoholic beverages and appliances to fresh food, pharmaceuticals, and tires. Certain club memberships also offer products and services such as car and home insurance, mortgage and real estate services, and travel packages.

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: redgtxdi

Originally posted by: KK
Let them sell the chinese crap, I'll stick to selling to local authorized dealers.

That's the part you don't get. There won't BE any local authorized dealers. There will be Wal Mart..........That's it!!

Now what do you do about the lease on the building you have to make widgets with??

What about the couple machines you have to make widgets with at $80,000 a pop??

If nobody's buying your widgets, you aren't making money and unless you're independently wealthy........you're going under!!! /

Weedwackers, Stihl for example, which would you rather buy walmarts version of the weedwacker or a decent stihl? Give me the stihl anyday. There are some things that money can't buy, for everything else, there's walmart.

 

[sygyzy]

Ornery, do you honestly believe what you are talking about? Serious question. You are right, nobody is "forcing" anyone to do anything, but there is a difference between right and wrong. Did you have a problem with MS packaging IE and making it the default browser in their OS's? Nobody forced people to use Windows right? Oh wait, but 99% of the computer manufacturers out there shipped their systems with Windows. Hmm. Alright, learn how to build a system yourself and install whatever OS and browser you want, right? Oh wait, 99% of the users are casual users who are not computer literate. Well, screw them, they should go to the local CC and learn computer skills. Now their $1000 computer cost them $1500 because of the extra gas and books and class fees. You get my drift.

Walmart is an evil corporation. There have been numerous reports on this. One user referenced an article where they spoke about Huffy's relationship with Walmart. Walmart has so much power that they have driven companies (mfgs) under by simply not selling them. When over 90% of your sales depend on Walmart, you simply cannot survive when they cut you off. Yes, the mfgs are trying to sell to other stores as well, but all the stores in the country will not match the selling/buying power of Walmart.

Your example of the mom and pop shop does not prove anything. Nobody says it's not *possible* for mom and pop stores to survive. What you are showing is the exception, not the rule. The number of small businesses (that compete with Walmart) has definitely decreased.

 

[sygyzy]

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: redgtxdi

Originally posted by: KK
Let them sell the chinese crap, I'll stick to selling to local authorized dealers.

That's the part you don't get. There won't BE any local authorized dealers. There will be Wal Mart..........That's it!!

Now what do you do about the lease on the building you have to make widgets with??

What about the couple machines you have to make widgets with at $80,000 a pop??

If nobody's buying your widgets, you aren't making money and unless you're independently wealthy........you're going under!!! /

Weedwackers, Stihl for example, which would you rather buy walmarts version of the weedwacker or a decent stihl? Give me the stihl anyday. There are some things that money can't buy, for everything else, there's walmart.

What makes you think Walmart carries only generic crap? That is a misconception. They have partnerships with Chinese mfgs for many products but not ALL products. Soon Walmart will be the only ones carrying Stihl. Then if Stihl doesn't reduce their prices for Walmart, they'll stop carrying them. Then they'll go under. How will you whack your weeds then?

 

[FeuerFrei]

Originally posted by: Modeps
WalMart is ruining America. They own Cosco, you know what that stands for right? Chinese Off Shore COmpany.

Actually it means... China Ocean Shipping(Group) Company.

 

[sygyzy]

Originally posted by: mzkhadir

Originally posted by: Modeps
WalMart is ruining America. They own Cosco, you know what that stands for right? Chinese Off Shore COmpany.

Its Costco. Not Cosco. Walmart doesn't own Costco.

Here is a profile of Costco:
Costco Wholesale Corporation Company Profile


Wal-Mart isn't the biggest in "every" business. Costco Wholesale is the largest wholesale club operator in the US (ahead of Wal-Mart's SAM'S CLUB). The company operates more than 415 membership warehouse stores serving 42 million cardholders in 36 US states and Puerto Rico, Canada, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and the UK, primarily under the Costco Wholesale name. Stores offer discount prices on, on average, 4,000 products (many in bulk packaging), ranging from alcoholic beverages and appliances to fresh food, pharmaceuticals, and tires. Certain club memberships also offer products and services such as car and home insurance, mortgage and real estate services, and travel packages.

LOL good try.

 

[Ornery]

...which would you rather buy walmarts version of the weedwacker or a decent stihl?

That's the point, Walmart doesn't "make" weedwackers, their suppliers do. Stihl chooses NOT to sell there or any other big box store. There are TONS of products that will never be sold by Walmart!

Soon Walmart will be the only ones carrying Stihl. Then if Stihl doesn't reduce their prices for Walmart, they'll stop carrying them. Then they'll go under. How will you whack your weeds then?

Jesus, one fvcktard after another! :roll:

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser

Originally posted by: KK
If the businesses don't want to lower their prices then they don't have to deal with Walmart. There is nobody forcing these companies to sell at low prices.

If only that were true.

Are you saying that if I make widgets, that I got to sell them to walmart for whatever walmart wants them for? I, for one wouldn't allow walmart to sell my widgets, even if they sold them for what I wanted to sell them for.

Well, when Wal-mart is 50%+ of the market for your particular variety of widgets, you really have no choice.

 

[sonz70]

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: redgtxdi

Originally posted by: KK
Let them sell the chinese crap, I'll stick to selling to local authorized dealers.

That's the part you don't get. There won't BE any local authorized dealers. There will be Wal Mart..........That's it!!

Now what do you do about the lease on the building you have to make widgets with??

What about the couple machines you have to make widgets with at $80,000 a pop??

If nobody's buying your widgets, you aren't making money and unless you're independently wealthy........you're going under!!! /

Weedwackers, Stihl for example, which would you rather buy walmarts version of the weedwacker or a decent stihl? Give me the stihl anyday. There are some things that money can't buy, for everything else, there's walmart.

You need to realise a few basic economical facts.

1. Poverty is on the rise

2. Walmart tailors to a crowd of lower income individuals

Buying power can put companies out of business, when a company can buy and sell an item for a loss, or even no profit, other companies can't move there product. All the smaller companies that are making it, are usually 1 bad season, 1 bad product away from financial ruin, or 1 good walmart move. sure, you like the good quality products, most people don't care. That is why Walmart is so successfull, and why they arw a threat to every business, and to the "choice" of where to buy products.

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: Ornery
...which would you rather buy walmarts version of the weedwacker or a decent stihl?

That's the point, Walmart doesn't "make" weedwackers, their suppliers do. Stihl chooses NOT to sell there or any other big box store. There are TONS of products that will never be sold by Walmart!

exactly, if you want quality, you generally don't go to walmart.

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: sygyzy

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: redgtxdi

Originally posted by: KK
Let them sell the chinese crap, I'll stick to selling to local authorized dealers.

That's the part you don't get. There won't BE any local authorized dealers. There will be Wal Mart..........That's it!!

Now what do you do about the lease on the building you have to make widgets with??

What about the couple machines you have to make widgets with at $80,000 a pop??

If nobody's buying your widgets, you aren't making money and unless you're independently wealthy........you're going under!!! /

Weedwackers, Stihl for example, which would you rather buy walmarts version of the weedwacker or a decent stihl? Give me the stihl anyday. There are some things that money can't buy, for everything else, there's walmart.

What makes you think Walmart carries only generic crap? That is a misconception. They have partnerships with Chinese mfgs for many products but not ALL products. Soon Walmart will be the only ones carrying Stihl. Then if Stihl doesn't reduce their prices for Walmart, they'll stop carrying them. Then they'll go under. How will you whack your weeds then?

What makes me think that walmart sells generic crap? Well, probably experience.

 

[Ornery]

...sure, you like the good quality products, most people don't care. That is why Walmart is so successfull, and why they arw a threat to every business, and to the "choice" of where to buy products.

...too powerful to be sold at Lowes or Home Depot

• Call it power in numbers. We count on our legion of 8,000 independent STIHL dealers nationwide every day, and so can you. To give you a product demonstration, straight talk and genuine advice about STIHL products. To offer fast and expert on-site service. And to stand behind every product they carry, always fully assembled. You see, we won?t sell you a leaf blower in a box, not even a big one.

Gawd, one after another... :roll:

 

[Jadow]

I bought my dad a gas weedwhacker at WM about 5 years ago for 60 bucks, it's worked great for him since he got it with zero problems, and he uses it alot! How about DEM apples!

 

[sonz70]

Originally posted by: Ornery
...sure, you like the good quality products, most people don't care. That is why Walmart is so successfull, and why they arw a threat to every business, and to the "choice" of where to buy products.

...too powerful to be sold at Lowes or Home Depot

• Call it power in numbers. We count on our legion of 8,000 independent STIHL dealers nationwide every day, and so can you. To give you a product demonstration, straight talk and genuine advice about STIHL products. To offer fast and expert on-site service. And to stand behind every product they carry, always fully assembled. You see, we won?t sell you a leaf blower in a box, not even a big one.

Gawd, one after another... :roll:

You use one company...out of hundreds and thousands of companies in the world. Like it was said, you are showing the execption to the rule, that is it.

 

[Ornery]

1. What makes me think that walmart sells generic crap? Well, probably experience.

 

[redgtxdi]

Oh don't worry........there's a solution for everything..............

Wal Mart forces brand 'x' (Toro?) to build the killer weedwhacker at 2/3 the price of the Stihl at Home Depot. WM advertises the hell out of it..........nobody buys a freakin' Stihl anymore 'cuz the Toro kicks its butt and costs less ta' boot.

Worse yet................WM buys HD *and* Lowes................now we're all fvcked!!

And don't think that ANY of the above isn't possible..................Remember the golden rule..........

Money talks & bullsh*t walks!

 

[yllus]

Quality talks too. But if you're dumb enough to think that everyone will just one day turn to buying crap and only crap, who am I to stop ya?

Of course the fact that the biggest market niches to exploit these days are ultrapremium and personalized products probably means nothing to the 13-22 year old business experts in here.

 

[sonz70]

Originally posted by: redgtxdi
Oh don't worry........there's a solution for everything..............

Wal Mart forces brand 'x' (Toro?) to build the killer weedwhacker at 2/3 the price of the Stihl at Home Depot. WM advertises the hell out of it..........nobody buys a freakin' Stihl anymore 'cuz the Toro kicks its butt and costs less ta' boot.

Worse yet................WM buys HD *and* Lowes................now we're all fvcked!!

And don't think that ANY of the above isn't possible..................Remember the golden rule..........

Money talks & bullsh*t walks!

FTW

 

[Deleted member 4644]

Wrong Damn Forum

I am not normally a forum Nazi, but a lifer like you should know better.

 

[KK]

somebody earlier mentioned about rubbermaid going under. I was looking for some rubbermaid stuff at wally world recently, well they didn't have it, I wasn't about to buy the stuff they have nowadays. I found some rubbermaid stuff at BJ and bought it there. Boy, it feels good to be in control of the dollars I spend. Sure, I shop at walmart for some stuff as I don't hold nothing against walmart, but I am not going spend my money on something I want to last.