Is Verizon FIOS Telephone service technicaly VOIP

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spidey07

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Originally posted by: randomlinh
Originally posted by: kranky
FWIW, the FIOS mailing I just got yesterday says in the fine print "Non-IP voice service comes with up to 8 hours battery backup."

that's the one thing that scares me about these new lines... the old copper lines could be usabled w/ a corded phone through almost anything. We've had ice storms that have knocked out power for 3-4 days before. 8hrs isn't going to cut it... assuming when it happens the battery is even up to par.

yes, it's a rare situation, but it's always the one thing that worries me about dropping our land line.

There are regulations that say the phone system has to be up for so many days without power. I forget how many it is but it's sizable, I think like a week. Since the phones "power" is coming from the phone switch in a very protected hut with days of battery backup or generator.

I still have my hardline clam phone that I will NEVER give up because of it's reliability and clarity.
 

Oceandevi

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: randomlinh
Originally posted by: kranky
FWIW, the FIOS mailing I just got yesterday says in the fine print "Non-IP voice service comes with up to 8 hours battery backup."

that's the one thing that scares me about these new lines... the old copper lines could be usabled w/ a corded phone through almost anything. We've had ice storms that have knocked out power for 3-4 days before. 8hrs isn't going to cut it... assuming when it happens the battery is even up to par.

yes, it's a rare situation, but it's always the one thing that worries me about dropping our land line.

There are regulations that say the phone system has to be up for so many days without power. I forget how many it is but it's sizable, I think like a week. Since the phones "power" is coming from the phone switch in a very protected hut with days of battery backup or generator.

I still have my hardline clam phone that I will NEVER give up because of it's reliability and clarity.

Did you know the dial tone "is" the power.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: Oceandevi
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: randomlinh
Originally posted by: kranky
FWIW, the FIOS mailing I just got yesterday says in the fine print "Non-IP voice service comes with up to 8 hours battery backup."

that's the one thing that scares me about these new lines... the old copper lines could be usabled w/ a corded phone through almost anything. We've had ice storms that have knocked out power for 3-4 days before. 8hrs isn't going to cut it... assuming when it happens the battery is even up to par.

yes, it's a rare situation, but it's always the one thing that worries me about dropping our land line.

There are regulations that say the phone system has to be up for so many days without power. I forget how many it is but it's sizable, I think like a week. Since the phones "power" is coming from the phone switch in a very protected hut with days of battery backup or generator.

I still have my hardline clam phone that I will NEVER give up because of it's reliability and clarity.

Did you know the dial tone "is" the power.

I had to dumb it down for the audience. ;) Dialtone can't make the bell ring.
 

Oceandevi

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Oceandevi
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: randomlinh
Originally posted by: kranky
FWIW, the FIOS mailing I just got yesterday says in the fine print "Non-IP voice service comes with up to 8 hours battery backup."

that's the one thing that scares me about these new lines... the old copper lines could be usabled w/ a corded phone through almost anything. We've had ice storms that have knocked out power for 3-4 days before. 8hrs isn't going to cut it... assuming when it happens the battery is even up to par.

yes, it's a rare situation, but it's always the one thing that worries me about dropping our land line.

There are regulations that say the phone system has to be up for so many days without power. I forget how many it is but it's sizable, I think like a week. Since the phones "power" is coming from the phone switch in a very protected hut with days of battery backup or generator.

I still have my hardline clam phone that I will NEVER give up because of it's reliability and clarity.

Did you know the dial tone "is" the power.

I had to dumb it down for the audience. ;) Dialtone can't make the bell ring.

I just thought it was neat.
How do phones without a plug ring then? Some phones do not need an outlet.
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: kranky
FWIW, the FIOS mailing I just got yesterday says in the fine print "Non-IP voice service comes with up to 8 hours battery backup."

I've inquired about this on dslreports' forums and they say it's more likely 2-3 hours of useable service. In other words, if you need a phone line to work in the event of an emergency (like 9/11 or the great NE blackout we had here), then get a UPS too.
 

bruceb

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Verizon FIOS phone is not VOIP ... they take the regular dial tone at the central office
and connect it to the carrier system that is going out to where you connect to it. All the
ONT equipement does is convert the 3 wavelengths of light back to the correct signals
for Voice, TV or Internet. Any VOIP phone would need to connect After your Modem / Router.
As to Verizon taking out the copper lines, that is the normal way they like to do it. They remove
the copper from your home to the weatherhead in the lawn or the drop wire to the pole. However,
if you ask nicely, they may leave it in place.
 

Oceandevi

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Originally posted by: bruceb
Verizon FIOS phone is not VOIP ... they take the regular dial tone at the central office
and connect it to the carrier system that is going out to where you connect to it. All the
ONT equipement does is convert the 3 wavelengths of light back to the correct signals
for Voice, TV or Internet. Any VOIP phone would need to connect After your Modem / Router.
As to Verizon taking out the copper lines, that is the normal way they like to do it. They remove
the copper from your home to the weatherhead in the lawn or the drop wire to the pole. However,
if you ask nicely, they may leave it in place.

What state is this?

In Texas the copper stays in place and is repaired if damaged. And trust me it gets damaged often during fiber buries. So I am curious to see where it is that the copper is taken out.

Also most of our build here is buried and not aerial. Maybe this makes a difference.