Is Troy State University a joke?

[Savij]

Originally posted by: Mill
Troy State is 2nd tier for Undergraduate and Masters in the Southeast.

And the original pentium processor is second tier processor for the "pre 1995 consumers who don't mind a CPU with a flaw" market.

Put enough qualifiers and you can make anything look as good as you want.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Mill
A nationwide Kaplan/Newsweek survey of high school guidance counselors recommends Troy State University as one of 70 colleges and universities that "offer the best value for your tuition dollar."
The random survey of high school guidance counselors is published this month in the Kaplan/Newsweek College Catalog 2002. The survey is used as the basis for the rankings in the Kaplan catalog.
TSU is one of only three Alabama universities ranked in the "best value" category. Other schools in the ranking included Clemson, Georgia Tech, Oregon State, Rice, the University of Texas and Virginia Tech.
The survey also named TSU as one of 27 "hidden treasures," defined in the catalog as "terrific schools" that "aren?t necessarily the most famous ones." One other university in Alabama made this listing, which also included Furman University, Elon College, Santa Clara University and Miami (Ohio) University.


Seems somebody with credibility thinks it is terrific.

Wow, what a great education you must have as a UAB criminal justice major.

Again, nobody is talking about 'value' - we're talking about reputation.

Thanks for again posting something that has no relevance to the topic at hand.

So, what next? Are you now going to tell us what your first born child's name is going to be? Let me guess - Bubba?

Seeking validation are you? I'm quite happy where I go to school and what my major is. You keep saying I bring up my personal life, it's actually you that keeps harping on it.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Savij

Originally posted by: Mill
Troy State is 2nd tier for Undergraduate and Masters in the Southeast.

And the original pentium processor is second tier processor for the "pre 1995 consumers who don't mind a CPU with a flaw" market.

Put enough qualifiers and you can make anything look as good as you want.

I'm not paying the money for the premium edition of US News and World report, but if someone has it please post their national ranking.

 

[fyleow]

It's like the Harvard of the South!

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Mill
Troy State is 2nd tier for Undergraduate and Masters in the Southeast. Secondly, "terrific schools" that "aren?t necessarily the most famous ones" doesn't say anything about value. I like how you are justifying your absurd education costs by disparaging Troy State.

Someone wasting money to get a criminal justice degree shouldn't talk about absurd things

Again, stop going on these wild tangents. My education probably cost less than yours, too. Does that make me better or worse than you? No.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Mill
Troy State is 2nd tier for Undergraduate and Masters in the Southeast. Secondly, "terrific schools" that "aren?t necessarily the most famous ones" doesn't say anything about value. I like how you are justifying your absurd education costs by disparaging Troy State.

For all we know that may be in the context of value. Additionally, it's a second tier school in rankings of southern only MS only schools. Whatever you want to cry about, that's the bottom line. 2nd tier. In a ranking of southern only, non doctoral schools. That is not a highly regarded position.

Again, as I've said in many threads before (as well as this very one) - it isn't worth it for most people to spend a significant amount of money at an expensive school.

The simple fact is that Troy State is not highly regarded in academics, unless you have the lowest of standards.

 

[Mill]

Last time I checked JustinT is in the South and was talking about two people with their masters degree from TSU. I think because of that the ranking applies.

 

[Savij]

Give it up Mil, you're obviously fighting just to argue here. I mean come on, it's not even highly regarded in Alabama. I grew up in Al and everyone I knew made fun of it. Seriously, if it's ranked tier two Southern non Doctoral i probably wouldn't be in the top 250 in a national ranking.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Mill
Troy State is 2nd tier for Undergraduate and Masters in the Southeast. Secondly, "terrific schools" that "aren?t necessarily the most famous ones" doesn't say anything about value. I like how you are justifying your absurd education costs by disparaging Troy State.

Someone wasting money to get a criminal justice degree shouldn't talk about absurd things

Again, stop going on these wild tangents. My education probably cost less than yours, too. Does that make me better or worse than you? No.

Care to back up why it's a waste of money? I know someone who graduated from UAB with CJ degree in 2001 and is making 65k after bonuses in the private sector. Not everyone wants a degree so they can make copious amounts of money either. I'd still like to see how I'm going on tangents.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Mill
Troy State is 2nd tier for Undergraduate and Masters in the Southeast. Secondly, "terrific schools" that "aren?t necessarily the most famous ones" doesn't say anything about value. I like how you are justifying your absurd education costs by disparaging Troy State.

For all we know that may be in the context of value. Additionally, it's a second tier school in rankings of southern only MS only schools. Whatever you want to cry about, that's the bottom line. 2nd tier. In a ranking of southern only, non doctoral schools. That is not a highly regarded position.

Again, as I've said in many threads before (as well as this very one) - it isn't worth it for most people to spend a significant amount of money at an expensive school.

The simple fact is that Troy State is not highly regarded in academics, unless you have the lowest of standards.

It isn't in the context of value. Read their website.

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Mill
Troy State is 2nd tier for Undergraduate and Masters in the Southeast. Secondly, "terrific schools" that "aren?t necessarily the most famous ones" doesn't say anything about value. I like how you are justifying your absurd education costs by disparaging Troy State.

For all we know that may be in the context of value. Additionally, it's a second tier school in rankings of southern only MS only schools. Whatever you want to cry about, that's the bottom line. 2nd tier. In a ranking of southern only, non doctoral schools. That is not a highly regarded position.

Again, as I've said in many threads before (as well as this very one) - it isn't worth it for most people to spend a significant amount of money at an expensive school.

The simple fact is that Troy State is not highly regarded in academics, unless you have the lowest of standards.

Tt IS a second tier school in the south, it would still be second tier school nationally. You obviously dont know how they do rankings. Its in line with any other state school that is a second tier school. Considering Troy State IS a 1-A school. Its not highly regarded, but its not the worst. Id say its better than several schools in the UT or A&M systems, there are some jokes of schools in both systems.

Troy State is what it is, its a second tier state university, its not any different from other second tier state universities in other states. Except for the fact it offers are wide array of distance learning classes for people in the military.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Mill
Last time I checked JustinT is in the South and was talking about two people with their masters degree from TSU. I think because of that the ranking applies.

That means absolutely nothing. Again, it is a 2nd tier school in a ranking of southern only non-doctoral schools.

Overall, it's not highly regarded.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Savij
Give it up Mil, you're obviously fighting just to argue here. I mean come on, it's not even highly regarded in Alabama. I grew up in Al and everyone I knew made fun of it. Seriously, if it's ranked tier two Southern non Doctoral i probably wouldn't be in the top 250 in a national ranking.

No, I'm not arguing to argue. I'm simply saying a Master's Degree from Troy State is a valid degree and the school is about mid-range for this area of the country.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Mill
Last time I checked JustinT is in the South and was talking about two people with their masters degree from TSU. I think because of that the ranking applies.

That means absolutely nothing. Again, it is a 2nd tier school in a ranking of southern only non-doctoral schools.

Overall, it's not highly regarded.

NO! There is NO ranking given to Troy State as far as non-doctoral schools is given. The only ranking assigned to Troy State is the second tier one. I just did a free trial of the premium edition using an old version of US News paper edition that I had. It is a second tier school for Southern Master's schools. That's the ONLY ranking given to it. The main campus is only about 4500 students and it isn't guilded in history, so it is only ranked with other Master's schools.

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: Savij
Give it up Mil, you're obviously fighting just to argue here. I mean come on, it's not even highly regarded in Alabama. I grew up in Al and everyone I knew made fun of it. Seriously, if it's ranked tier two Southern non Doctoral i probably wouldn't be in the top 250 in a national ranking.

You do realise how many schools are in the US right? Troy state wouldnt be the only one not ranking in the top 250, there wouldnt be a single second tier school in the top 250.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Savij
Give it up Mil, you're obviously fighting just to argue here. I mean come on, it's not even highly regarded in Alabama. I grew up in Al and everyone I knew made fun of it. Seriously, if it's ranked tier two Southern non Doctoral i probably wouldn't be in the top 250 in a national ranking.

He's a criminal justice major from UAB. Everything has to be highly regarded for him!

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Mill
Troy State is 2nd tier for Undergraduate and Masters in the Southeast. Secondly, "terrific schools" that "aren?t necessarily the most famous ones" doesn't say anything about value. I like how you are justifying your absurd education costs by disparaging Troy State.

For all we know that may be in the context of value. Additionally, it's a second tier school in rankings of southern only MS only schools. Whatever you want to cry about, that's the bottom line. 2nd tier. In a ranking of southern only, non doctoral schools. That is not a highly regarded position.

Again, as I've said in many threads before (as well as this very one) - it isn't worth it for most people to spend a significant amount of money at an expensive school.

The simple fact is that Troy State is not highly regarded in academics, unless you have the lowest of standards.

No it IS a second tier school in the south, it would rank equally with second tier schools, in the North, East, or West. You obviously dont know how they do rankings. Its in line with any other state school that is a second tier school. Considering Troy State IS a 1-A school. Its not highly regarded, but its not the worst. Id say its better than several schools in the UT or A&M systems.

Troy State is what it is, its a second tier state university, its not any different from other second tier state universities in other states. Except for the fact it offers are wide array of distance learning classes for people in the military.

Actually no. It's second tier in a southern only ranking. And that's for only non-doctoral schools. In a southern only ranking. Non doctoral. We have no idea how it would really compare to a 2nd tier non-doctoral school in the West. Not to mention the difference in overall number of schools in each region.

Again, at the end, it's a 2nd tier school in a southern only ranking of non-doctoral schools. It probably wouldn't even rank in the top 200 of overall US schools.

 

[Savij]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Savij
Give it up Mil, you're obviously fighting just to argue here. I mean come on, it's not even highly regarded in Alabama. I grew up in Al and everyone I knew made fun of it. Seriously, if it's ranked tier two Southern non Doctoral i probably wouldn't be in the top 250 in a national ranking.

No, I'm not arguing to argue. I'm simply saying a Master's Degree from Troy State is a valid degree and the school is about mid-range for this area of the country.

I skimmed through the thread again and I don't see where anyone said the degree is not valid. All that's been said is that the school does not have the best reputation/rank.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Mill
Last time I checked JustinT is in the South and was talking about two people with their masters degree from TSU. I think because of that the ranking applies.

That means absolutely nothing. Again, it is a 2nd tier school in a ranking of southern only non-doctoral schools.

Overall, it's not highly regarded.

NO! There is NO ranking given to Troy State as far as non-doctoral schools is given. The only ranking assigned to Troy State is the second tier one. I just did a free trial of the premium edition using an old version of US News paper edition that I had. It is a second tier school for Southern Master's schools. That's the ONLY ranking given to it. The main campus is only about 4500 students and it isn't guilded in history, so it is only ranked with other Master's schools.

I think it's about time you get a refund on your criminal justice 'education'.

I didn't say what number it is ranked. You just said what I've been saying the entire time - Troy State is a 2nd tier school in rankings of Southern Only non-doctoral schools. That is not well regarded, unless you have low standards.

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: Savij

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Savij
Give it up Mil, you're obviously fighting just to argue here. I mean come on, it's not even highly regarded in Alabama. I grew up in Al and everyone I knew made fun of it. Seriously, if it's ranked tier two Southern non Doctoral i probably wouldn't be in the top 250 in a national ranking.

No, I'm not arguing to argue. I'm simply saying a Master's Degree from Troy State is a valid degree and the school is about mid-range for this area of the country.

I skimmed through the thread again and I don't see where anyone said the degree is not valid. All that's been said is that the school does not have the best reputation/rank.

Niether do any of the other non-big name state schools. There are a bunch of other colleges on the level of Troy State, Id still say there are atleast one in each of the UT and A&M systems. Troy State ranks 9 places lower than Marshell. It ranks higher than Aubruns Montgomerys Campus.

And yes YOU can compare it to schools in other regions. There are alot of schools alot worse than Troy State. Troy State might not be highly regarded, but it is comparable to Marshell, which I guess isnt to well regarded either.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Mill
Last time I checked JustinT is in the South and was talking about two people with their masters degree from TSU. I think because of that the ranking applies.

That means absolutely nothing. Again, it is a 2nd tier school in a ranking of southern only non-doctoral schools.

Overall, it's not highly regarded.

NO! There is NO ranking given to Troy State as far as non-doctoral schools is given. The only ranking assigned to Troy State is the second tier one. I just did a free trial of the premium edition using an old version of US News paper edition that I had. It is a second tier school for Southern Master's schools. That's the ONLY ranking given to it. The main campus is only about 4500 students and it isn't guilded in history, so it is only ranked with other Master's schools.

I think it's about time you get a refund on your criminal justice 'education'.

I didn't say what number it is ranked. You just said what I've been saying the entire time - Troy State is a 2nd tier school in rankings of Southern Only non-doctoral schools. That is not well regarded, unless you have low standards.

IT IS NOT IN THE GODDAMNED NON-DOCTORAL SCHOOL RANKING. Get that thru your thick skull. They are two different type of rankings. It's in the Masters by region pool, and that is the ONLY ranking it is assigned.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Savij

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Savij
Give it up Mil, you're obviously fighting just to argue here. I mean come on, it's not even highly regarded in Alabama. I grew up in Al and everyone I knew made fun of it. Seriously, if it's ranked tier two Southern non Doctoral i probably wouldn't be in the top 250 in a national ranking.

No, I'm not arguing to argue. I'm simply saying a Master's Degree from Troy State is a valid degree and the school is about mid-range for this area of the country.

I skimmed through the thread again and I don't see where anyone said the degree is not valid. All that's been said is that the school does not have the best reputation/rank.

Niether do any of the other non-big name state schools. There are a bunch of other colleges on the level of Troy State, Id still say there are atleast one in each of the UT and A&M systems.

Sure, there may very well be one like Troy St. And I'm sure that there are plenty of people that feel those schools aren't highly regarded.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Savij

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Savij
Give it up Mil, you're obviously fighting just to argue here. I mean come on, it's not even highly regarded in Alabama. I grew up in Al and everyone I knew made fun of it. Seriously, if it's ranked tier two Southern non Doctoral i probably wouldn't be in the top 250 in a national ranking.

No, I'm not arguing to argue. I'm simply saying a Master's Degree from Troy State is a valid degree and the school is about mid-range for this area of the country.

I skimmed through the thread again and I don't see where anyone said the degree is not valid. All that's been said is that the school does not have the best reputation/rank.

And I posted information that said it was awarded for being a "hidden" jewel, and that more people should start to recognize it. As long as people act like RabidMongoose, and CanoWorms, then it won't be recognized. Plus, it does have national exposure and national recognition, but that doesn't mean everyone has heard of it. I seriously doubt everyone has heard of Gonzaga, but they are a Tier 1 Master's School from out West. What about Samford here in Birmingham? Tier 1 in Southern Master's

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Mill
Last time I checked JustinT is in the South and was talking about two people with their masters degree from TSU. I think because of that the ranking applies.

That means absolutely nothing. Again, it is a 2nd tier school in a ranking of southern only non-doctoral schools.

Overall, it's not highly regarded.

NO! There is NO ranking given to Troy State as far as non-doctoral schools is given. The only ranking assigned to Troy State is the second tier one. I just did a free trial of the premium edition using an old version of US News paper edition that I had. It is a second tier school for Southern Master's schools. That's the ONLY ranking given to it. The main campus is only about 4500 students and it isn't guilded in history, so it is only ranked with other Master's schools.

I think it's about time you get a refund on your criminal justice 'education'.

I didn't say what number it is ranked. You just said what I've been saying the entire time - Troy State is a 2nd tier school in rankings of Southern Only non-doctoral schools. That is not well regarded, unless you have low standards.

IT IS NOT IN THE GODDAMNED NON-DOCTORAL SCHOOL RANKING. Get that thru your thick skull. They are two different type of rankings. It's in the Masters by region pool, and that is the ONLY ranking it is assigned.

Wow, you really are an idiot. Non-doctoral = no PhD offered. If it offers an MS but no PhD, then it's in the MS category (non-doctoral)

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Mill
Last time I checked JustinT is in the South and was talking about two people with their masters degree from TSU. I think because of that the ranking applies.

That means absolutely nothing. Again, it is a 2nd tier school in a ranking of southern only non-doctoral schools.

Overall, it's not highly regarded.

NO! There is NO ranking given to Troy State as far as non-doctoral schools is given. The only ranking assigned to Troy State is the second tier one. I just did a free trial of the premium edition using an old version of US News paper edition that I had. It is a second tier school for Southern Master's schools. That's the ONLY ranking given to it. The main campus is only about 4500 students and it isn't guilded in history, so it is only ranked with other Master's schools.

I think it's about time you get a refund on your criminal justice 'education'.

I didn't say what number it is ranked. You just said what I've been saying the entire time - Troy State is a 2nd tier school in rankings of Southern Only non-doctoral schools. That is not well regarded, unless you have low standards.

IT IS NOT IN THE GODDAMNED NON-DOCTORAL SCHOOL RANKING. Get that thru your thick skull. They are two different type of rankings. It's in the Masters by region pool, and that is the ONLY ranking it is assigned.

Generally, people call these schools (masters only and bachelor's only) non-doctoral schools. I know you're a criminal justice major, but jeez...