Is this the official 2013 Fantasy Football thread?

[glenn1]

Brees is out for me this week, and someone got Foles from under me on Waiver last night. She texted me this morning thinking I'd actually trade for him. Yeeeeeah, no thanks.

So, do I gamble on Eli @ Min, or Freeman vs. Giants?

I've also got the following available:

Henne vs. SD, Ben vs. Baltimore, Bradford @ Carolina, Dalton @ Detroit, Tennehill vs. Buffalo, Flacco @ Pittsburgh, Geno vs. NE, Weeden @ GB, and Glennon @ Atl

I am currently sitting Vick on my bench as QB2. It's not looking likely that he'll start, but I may keep him until the end of the week before dropping him for one of the others above. Ya never know.

IMHO you should grab Tanehill or Dalton, and I wouldn't even wait to drop Vick to get one. It seems like a 0% chance he'll play this week; and even if he could, I probably wouldn't start him since there's no way he'd be 100%. I'd avoid Bradford, although he has been playing decent the last two games the rest of his schedule is brutal (CAR, SEA, IND, CHI, SF, ARI, NO).

 

[glenn1]

Also, surprisingly, no one picked up Keenan Allen in our league last night. I dropped T.Y. Hilton for a Percy Harvin stash, but I'm thinking of dropping Terrance Williams for K. Allen. Thoughts?

Do it, easy call IMHO.

 

[dougp]

What's his current status with the head injury? Also, what are your other options?

No status until later today, but odds are it's a bad concussion. Other options are varied - but on my team, I have Garcon, DJax, Michael Floyd.

 

[pete6032]

Who would you guys start, Mike Wallace or Hakeem Nicks?

Nicks has been inconsistent, but the Giants are playing Minnesota, which has allowed 30+ points per game and multiple 300 yard passes.

Wallace is playing Buffalo. Buffalo defense is shit too.

I originally dropped Wallace but I'm thinking maybe I should drop Nicks and pick up Wallace again, seems like Wallace has better future prospects, thoughts?

 

[leeland]

Who here is still being hamstrung by Gronk?

 

[spidey07]

Also, surprisingly, no one picked up Keenan Allen in our league last night. I dropped T.Y. Hilton for a Percy Harvin stash, but I'm thinking of dropping Terrance Williams for K. Allen. Thoughts?

In a heartbeat. It's who I dropped to pick up Allen on waiver.

 

[glenn1]

Rent a week 7 (and possibly beyond) defense question. This week and next 2 weeks games listed, with the exception of CLE they're listed in order of current points scored.

CLE (incumbent): @ GB, @ KC, BAL

TEN: @ SF, Bye, @ STL, JAC
DAL: @ PHI, @ DET, MIN
IND : DEN, Bye, @ HOU, STL
DET: CIN, DAL, Bye
STL: @ CAR, SEA, TEN
MIA: BUF, @ NE, CIN
TB: @ ATL, CAR, @ SEA

 

[MisterJackson]

IMHO you should grab Tanehill or Dalton, and I wouldn't even wait to drop Vick to get one. It seems like a 0% chance he'll play this week; and even if he could, I probably wouldn't start him since there's no way he'd be 100%. I'd avoid Bradford, although he has been playing decent the last two games the rest of his schedule is brutal (CAR, SEA, IND, CHI, SF, ARI, NO).

What are your thoughts on Henne? Seems like a potentially smart play, but it's Henne, so there is risk.

And thanks for the K. Allen advice everyone. It seemed like a no brainer to drop Williams for Allen, but I always like to double check here first. I really liked Williams though. Hate to drop him. I have a feeling he'll be one to watch the rest of this season.

 

[BudAshes]

Couple of guys to look at in deeper league's are Kris Durham on DET and Jarrett Boykin on GB. Both of them might be starting for good offenses with good qbs.

 

[glenn1]

What are your thoughts on Henne? Seems like a potentially smart play, but it's Henne, so there is risk.

And thanks for the K. Allen advice everyone. It seemed like a no brainer to drop Williams for Allen, but I always like to double check here first. I really liked Williams though. Hate to drop him. I have a feeling he'll be one to watch the rest of this season.

Henne could have a big week, potentially any player could any given Sunday. But I'd argue that the most likely scenario is both his ceiling and floor are both lower than most of the other options you listed. Besides, he's playing SF next week which isn't exactly a great matchup either.

 

[MisterJackson]

Henne could have a big week, potentially any player could any given Sunday. But I'd argue that the most likely scenario is both his ceiling and floor are both lower than most of the other options you listed. Besides, he's playing SF next week which isn't exactly a great matchup either.

He's playing SD, not SF. That's the only reason I ask about him. If he were facing SF I'd say hell no, haha.

 

[crownjules]

I think I may accept this trade -

I get M Lynch and D Williams.
I give AJ Green and TRich.

With DJax, Josh Gordon, K Allen, A Jeffrey, and B LaFell as my other WRs I think I can part with AJ Green. And TRich is not doing very well either.

 

[glenn1]

He's playing SD, not SF. That's the only reason I ask about him. If he were facing SF I'd say hell no, haha.

You're right, he is facing SD this week; that's why I said he was playing SF next week. If you literally only plan on keeping him for one week instead of as a longer term QB2/backup then his future opponents may not matter to you.

 

[MisterJackson]

You're right, he is facing SD this week; that's why I said he was playing SF next week. If you literally only plan on keeping him for one week instead of as a longer term QB2/backup then his future opponents may not matter to you.

Doh, I read your previous post wrong. You did say next week. Yeah, this is just a bye week fill in. I plan to Rock and Roll with Breezy the rest of the season, barring any unforeseen accidents and/or acts of God.

 

[Kev]

What to do with Amendola ...

Any opinions?

Donate his body to science?

 

[KeithTalent]

I think I may accept this trade -

I get M Lynch and D Williams.
I give AJ Green and TRich.

With DJax, Josh Gordon, K Allen, A Jeffrey, and B LaFell as my other WRs I think I can part with AJ Green. And TRich is not doing very well either.

Lynch missed practice, but I'm sure he's fine. I would totally do that deal considering the rest of your depth at WR.

KT

 

[MisterJackson]

Who here is still being hamstrung by Gronk?

Right there with you, brother. Martellus Bennett was doing well for me, but he's sorta fell off from lack of targets. I need Gronk back! I get why he's doing what he's doing, but it's either time to shit or get off the pot, Gronk!

 

[spidey07]

Right there with you, brother. Martellus Bennett was doing well for me, but he's sorta fell off from lack of targets. I need Gronk back! I get why he's doing what he's doing, but it's either time to shit or get off the pot, Gronk!

The talk is his concern over re-injury which could be career ending. I thought I was brilliant for getting him in the 5th round (hey, he'll be back week 4 or 5!) but it's hurting. That's a 5th round pick I've gotten zero from.

Receivers after all my waiver moves:

Fitzgerald - start
Josh Gordon - start
Keenan Allen - start
TY Hilton
Edelmen
Gronkowski - start in flex

RBs
Jamal Charles
Zak Stacey (moved to starting RB2)
Lamar Miller (stinker)
Joique Bell (still holding onto him in case Reggie gets hurt, he's a quality back)
David Wilson

QB = RG3
DEF = KC Chiefs (best waiver pick up of the year, they've won me games)
K = M. Crosby (has been doing well and is available)

Overall the team is better than average, but not great. 12 team league.

 

[slayer202]

unless he's not healthy and they are hiding information, he's going to be a beast when he's back. he was getting drafted in a spot where there weren't many safe picks, so it might still work out well. Especially if you drafted cameron as a #2 or were able to pick up julius thomas

 

[SP33Demon]

Who would you guys start, Mike Wallace or Hakeem Nicks?

Nicks has been inconsistent, but the Giants are playing Minnesota, which has allowed 30+ points per game and multiple 300 yard passes.

Wallace is playing Buffalo. Buffalo defense is shit too.

I originally dropped Wallace but I'm thinking maybe I should drop Nicks and pick up Wallace again, seems like Wallace has better future prospects, thoughts?

Wallace is a drop machine and one of the reasons Tannehill's numbers aren't better. Tannehill has PFF's 6 highest QB rating (higher than Ryan, Brees, Stafford, Luck, Brady) since they don't penalize for things like Yards in Air with Drops. Tannehill's receivers have 185 yards dropped, only Brady has more (258!). Wallace drops 21.43% (6 of 28) of his passes for 2nd worst in the NFL among top 50 wideouts, only behind Dobson. Wallace also drops Tannehill's rating down to 60.3 (2 INTs), so they're not on the same page at times. Nicks is only a spot better on QB rating for Eli (3 INTs) so pretty much a wash on that stat. However, Nicks has half the drop rate (3 of 28) of Wallace so I'd start him, although Big Blue may ride Jacobs' career night on the ground with a juicy matchup. If they decide to pass, Eli should slice and dice MN's secondary with relative ease. MN is 6th to last in pass coverage and even worse on run defense. Also consider that NY should be able to slow Peterson since hitting the top 5 in run defense (probably their only bright spot). Buffalo has a better Pass Coverage rating as a unit so Nicks is the better play over Wallace.

 

[Adrenaline]

Also, surprisingly, no one picked up Keenan Allen in our league last night. I dropped T.Y. Hilton for a Percy Harvin stash, but I'm thinking of dropping Terrance Williams for K. Allen. Thoughts?

I dropped Williams for Allen.

 

[crownjules]

Lynch missed practice, but I'm sure he's fine. I would totally do that deal considering the rest of your depth at WR.

KT

The trade won't go into effect until after this week's games anyway.

 

[Adrenaline]

Rent a week 7 (and possibly beyond) defense question. This week and next 2 weeks games listed, with the exception of CLE they're listed in order of current points scored.

CLE (incumbent): @ GB, @ KC, BAL

TEN: @ SF, Bye, @ STL, JAC
DAL: @ PHI, @ DET, MIN
IND : DEN, Bye, @ HOU, STL
DET: CIN, DAL, Bye
STL: @ CAR, SEA, TEN
MIA: BUF, @ NE, CIN
TB: @ ATL, CAR, @ SEA

This place usually has decent discussions on WW defenses and they do a look ahead thread as well.

 

[Crono]

Also, surprisingly, no one picked up Keenan Allen in our league last night. I dropped T.Y. Hilton for a Percy Harvin stash, but I'm thinking of dropping Terrance Williams for K. Allen. Thoughts?

I'd definitrly do it, but it would be better if you had some one worse than Williams to drop for Allen. Miles Austin isn't really 100 percent or doing much for the Cowboys right now, and Williams is probably worth it as a flex play going forward.

But I would absolutely get Allen right now before someone else does.

 

[SP33Demon]

Brees is out for me this week, and someone got Foles from under me on Waiver last night. She texted me this morning thinking I'd actually trade for him. Yeeeeeah, no thanks.

So, do I gamble on Eli @ Min, or Freeman vs. Giants?

I've also got the following available:

Henne vs. SD, Ben vs. Baltimore, Bradford @ Carolina, Dalton @ Detroit, Tennehill vs. Buffalo, Flacco @ Pittsburgh, Geno vs. NE, Weeden @ GB, and Glennon @ Atl

I am currently sitting Vick on my bench as QB2. It's not looking likely that he'll start, but I may keep him until the end of the week before dropping him for one of the others above. Ya never know.

Tannehill, read my above post (he's 6th in QB rating on PFF), he's poised to turn into a really good QB. Considering Miami's defense is a plus play against Buffalo's QB Merry Go Round, Tannehill should get plenty of time to work. Also consider that Buffalo's run defense is 8th on the year so Miami will be forced to throw more against Buffalo's average secondary. Thaddeus Lewis (+1.2) and Brian Hoyer (+1.8) posted plus positive recent games and Tannehill is better than both. In addition, Tannehill's only been pressured on 1/3 of dropbacks (9th best), but oddly enough all of his pressures = sacks and he leads the league in being sacked. This is definitely something he can correct by checking down faster and/or recognizing when to throw the ball away. For example, RG3/Brees/Rodgers have around the same time to throw before pressure but have thrown it away 2-2.5X more instead of taking the sack (8-10 vs Tannehill's 4). Luckily Buffalo is #21 in Pass Rush to match up with Tannehill's average Pass blocking which should be highly favorable.

My 2nd vote is Weeden who has an ideal matchup since GB stuffs the run and he will be forced to pass against GB's crappy secondary. In addition, GB has the 3rd worst pass rush so Weeden should have a good amount of time to throw. This will be another QB matchup like GB/Ravens last week and Weeden/Cleveland have a decent chance of winning. Also keep in mind that Flacco (+1.2) and Tannehill (+4.4) have posted + numbers against Green Bay so it's time for Weeden to follow their lead. The only downside is that Weeden is the least accurate in the league under pressure (33%) so GB will be blitzing to exploit that and it will come down to how well Weeden can beat that.

Henne vs SD would be #3, but if the Chargers decide to run a lot like they did vs Indy, you're screwed! Keep in mind Jax has the WORST run defense in the league so this is a very real outcome. However, SD has the WORST Pass coverage in the league (Luck should have sliced and diced if his receivers didn't drop every pass to kill drives) so Henne's receivers should be open a lot. Jax's pass blocking is actually decent (13th) vs SD below average pass rush. It's just a matter of how much time of possession will Henne have to throw with SD (and all of Jax's opponents) running the ball all day.

Glennon could have a decent day, the numbers are in his favor (horrid ATL pass coverage and pass rush, TB is average in pass blocking) but he's still error prone Glennon.

Big Ben vs Flacco, not touching that game since it's a rivalry and both teams have major issues (Flacco horrendous pass protection, Big Ben goes against a monster pass rush + Ben's 7th highest sack rate under pressure).

Dalton, going up against a good pass rush (7th best) and is 41% Completion under pressure with the same sack rate as Big Ben under pressure (22%). Not ideal.

Bradford going up against an above average pass rush and very good Pass Coverage team. Even with his good OL, too risky. If Carolina gets pressure on him, he's toast at 3rd worst completion % under pressure.

Geno, bottom half OL and Pats are a great cover team. They won't get a ton of pressure on him but have proven they can shut down good QBs like Brees. Of course Talib may not play but they are still nothing to scoff at as his backup did superb. Only Logan Ryan (CB) and Steve Gregory (SS) had negative numbers but that was against Brees. Geno could try picking on Logan Ryan, he's the only weakness in that secondary. However, I don't see him having a big day even without NE's lack of a pass rush.