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slayer202

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Nov 27, 2005
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So I have Peyton Manning and Russel Wilson in a 14 team league. I think I am going to put Russel Wilson on the trading block. What kind of player do you guys think I can get for him? There is one guy that has Carson Palmer and Ben Roethlisberger as his QB options. I think he will go for Wilson.

Who should I propose the trade for?

Stevie Johnson
CJ Spiller
Brandon Myers
Marshawn Lynch
Miles Austin
Roddy White
Eddie Lacy

I'd shoot for spiller or lynch depending on whether it's ppr. Lynch had one good week and Spiller hasn't done much. Both solid buy low candidates and he might be willing to part with one, especially with lacy coming back soon
 

T2urtle

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Oct 18, 2004
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I feel with the RBBC you have to put a premium on your second and third round picks. If a RB that is guaranteed snaps is there then grab him. With the way the league rules are headed, I would draft two high WR for sure. I drafted high WR in one league and it was nice.

The question I posed to myself when drafting is where do the RBs start to blend together at? I tend to see this happen around midway through round 2. The tier of RBs left just starts to mesh and can be waited if you do not get who you want.

I draft high this year assuming Chris ivory, Lamar miller and maybe montes ball would have majority of the snaps. Those were the wrong bet.

Good thing I have Chris Johnson and j. Charles leading the way.

I would agree going after WR but then again its so deep. Each team has 3 options vs 1/2 RB options.

In my ppr. I grabbed Charles, dez, Fitz, Lamar miller and garcon. Had Lamar not be a victim of RBBC. I would of had a solid core. I screwed up the rest of the draft. But was able to profit off wavier wire steals and trades.
 

Adrenaline

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I'd shoot for spiller or lynch depending on whether it's ppr. Lynch had one good week and Spiller hasn't done much. Both solid buy low candidates and he might be willing to part with one, especially with lacy coming back soon

Lynch had 1 out of 2 good weeks and week 3 is an embarrassment to FF as the Seahawks pulled their starters in the third quarter due to Jacksonville sucking so bad (31-0). Hey, if you're psychic and can tell when Seattle is going to destroy someone (best D in the league) then you will need to bench Lynch and Seattle Def. If you aren't psychic, you may want to stay away.

I have Lynch (1st round pick) and Seattle D (7th round pick) in the same league, needless to say, I do not want to even bother with that league right now. Thank you so much Seattle coaching staff for the loss !!!!

P.S. I would avoid Spiller.
 

Adrenaline

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I draft high this year assuming Chris ivory, Lamar miller and maybe montes ball would have majority of the snaps. Those were the wrong bet.

Good thing I have Chris Johnson and j. Charles leading the way.

I would agree going after WR but then again its so deep. Each team has 3 options vs 1/2 RB options.

In my ppr. I grabbed Charles, dez, Fitz, Lamar miller and garcon. Had Lamar not be a victim of RBBC. I would of had a solid core. I screwed up the rest of the draft. But was able to profit off wavier wire steals and trades.

Ivory was a chance, not much.

Miller had to prove himself, which he had not. Thomas was going to snag some carries.

Ball was never guaranteed there with Moreno and Hillman as well.

WR I targeted in round 2:

Green (always gone at the beginning and I never drafted last in round 1)
Jones
Bryant
Marshall
D. Thomas

I wound up with 2 of these in 3 leagues. It has paid off so far. After these guys, I looked for Cruz (gone usually when I was looking for another WR) or Wayne.

I avoid Hakeem Nicks and Roddy White. They are on my too injury prone to draft list, along with Steven Jackson.
 

AstroManLuca

Lifer
Jun 24, 2004
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Is pettigrew going to be a full time blocker this year? He is hurting me big with another low scoring game. I saw another lions wr get into a car accident. Maybe he can step up. No one else is other there for me.

Only people are like celek, Chandler and Zack miller.

Pick up Jordan Reed (TE, Washington). He's quietly carving out a role in that offense with Fred Davis being phased out.

Oh, and newsflash: Fred Davis has ZERO FANTASY VALUE, PEOPLE! He should not be owned in any league, and I'm being 100% serious. He was inactive in week 3 and now says he has a high ankle sprain but will "try" to play through it in week 4. Jordan Reed is the Redskins' lead receiving tight end and has more value than any of the guys you listed (including Pettigrew, who is junk and should also be dropped in every league).
 
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AstroManLuca

Lifer
Jun 24, 2004
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I avoid Hakeem Nicks and Roddy White. They are on my too injury prone to draft list, along with Steven Jackson.

Roddy White, injury prone? That's crazy talk. Yes, he is injured this season, but he has never missed a game in his career and he has often had big games while being limited in practice leading up to them.

At the time you drafted, before the season started, it was known that he had an ankle sprain. It wasn't public knowledge that it was the more serious high ankle sprain until after week 1, so there's no way that you could have had Roddy White on your injury-prone list during your draft. In fact, the Falcons lied and specifically denied that he had a high ankle sprain until after the game.

For Nicks it makes sense. I feel stupid now, in one league I had a choice between two injury guys, Hakeem Nicks and Pierre Garcon, and ended up choosing Nicks. Looks like that was the wrong choice.
 
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AstroManLuca

Lifer
Jun 24, 2004
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No no no. I have Minnesota D, and kc is still out there. I was going to pick up kc but I saw them.projected at 17 points for no reason maybe cause steelers do stink.

First of all, ignore all projections, especially if you play on NFL.com. Yahoo and ESPN have slightly more useful projections, but they are not to be trusted. You should look at FantasyPros.com for rankings.

You should pick up KC. Their defense is legit. Minnesota's is not.

Some information about the two defenses:

KC: 15 sacks (most in the NFL), 9 takeaways (third most), 34 points allowed (second fewest)
MIN: 4 sacks (second least), 10 takeaways (second most), 96 points allowed (third most)

So other than the Vikings having one more takeaway, the Chiefs have far and away the better defense.

KC is also up against a Giants team that cannot stop turning the ball over and has a terrible offensive line that allows tons of sacks. Eli Manning is going to get annihilated by the Chiefs' pass rush. And the Chiefs have a very easy schedule until their bye week, which isn't until week 10.
 

tHa ShIzNiT

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First of all, ignore all projections, especially if you play on NFL.com. Yahoo and ESPN have slightly more useful projections, but they are not to be trusted. You should look at FantasyPros.com for rankings.

legit info. NFL.com's projections are good for comedy value though.
 

AstroManLuca

Lifer
Jun 24, 2004
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Have some decisions to make:

QB: Russell Wilson or Alex Smith (or a free agent)

Easy one. Wilson.

Flex: Daryl Richardson, TY Hilton, or Stevie Johnson. I'm thinking TY might have a great game against Jacksonville.

I'd go that way as well. The 49ers defense has actually been quite sieve-like against RBs, but I don't really trust Daryl Richardson to do much, especially coming back from injury. Especially if the 49ers are pissed about their 1-2 start and decide to pour it on - if so, the Rams may just abandon the run and pass a lot.

WR: Cecil Shorts, Eddie Royal, Santana Moss, or a free agent (Thompkins, Hartline, etc.)

I'd own Thompkins and Hartline over Royal and Moss.

Another sneaky play could be Marlon Brown of the Ravens against a bad Bills secondary.

QB: Eli Manning or a free agent. Eli hasn't done much for my team this year. Terrelle Pryor is ranked very highly this week and he's available. The only other starters available are Manuel, Tannehill, Ponder, Locker, and Geno.

Pryor may not play with a concussion. If I knew for sure he would play, I'd probably have him as a top 10 QB this week against Washington, the worst defense in the league. I'd probably grab Pryor and see if he's cleared by Friday. If not, you might be in a bind. Eli is a terrible play this week against the KC defense, so I guess I like Tannehill the most of who's available. But that's not saying much.

Oh and Ponder might not play either, it would be Matt Cassel in that case. Not that I like either one.
 

T2urtle

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Oct 18, 2004
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First of all, ignore all projections, especially if you play on NFL.com. Yahoo and ESPN have slightly more useful projections, but they are not to be trusted. You should look at FantasyPros.com for rankings.

You should pick up KC. Their defense is legit. Minnesota's is not.

Some information about the two defenses:

KC: 15 sacks (most in the NFL), 9 takeaways (third most), 34 points allowed (second fewest)
MIN: 4 sacks (second least), 10 takeaways (second most), 96 points allowed (third most)

So other than the Vikings having one more takeaway, the Chiefs have far and away the better defense.

KC is also up against a Giants team that cannot stop turning the ball over and has a terrible offensive line that allows tons of sacks. Eli Manning is going to get annihilated by the Chiefs' pass rush. And the Chiefs have a very easy schedule until their bye week, which isn't until week 10.

I'm on yahoo. I think it was a glitch. But Yea I looked at the number earlier and dropped minn for kc.
 

glenn1

Lifer
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I'd go that way as well. The 49ers defense has actually been quite sieve-like against RBs, but I don't really trust Daryl Richardson to do much, especially coming back from injury. Especially if the 49ers are pissed about their 1-2 start and decide to pour it on - if so, the Rams may just abandon the run and pass a lot.

Who the hell knows with that game; both teams have been playing loose and sloppy. Combine that with it being a Thursday night game, I can see it being either a pretty wretched and low-scoring affair or a no defense air-it-out points bonanza. I'm actually starting STL defense in one of my leagues and now just waiting to see how good or bad of a decision that was.
 

Adrenaline

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Roddy White, injury prone? That's crazy talk. Yes, he is injured this season, but he has never missed a game in his career and he has often had big games while being limited in practice leading up to them.

At the time you drafted, before the season started, it was known that he had an ankle sprain. It wasn't public knowledge that it was the more serious high ankle sprain until after week 1, so there's no way that you could have had Roddy White on your injury-prone list during your draft. In fact, the Falcons lied and specifically denied that he had a high ankle sprain until after the game.

For Nicks it makes sense. I feel stupid now, in one league I had a choice between two injury guys, Hakeem Nicks and Pierre Garcon, and ended up choosing Nicks. Looks like that was the wrong choice.

White may not be injury prone but I drafted him a few years ago and he did not hold up to the spot I drafted him at. He is on my do not draft list. I had him as injury prone, looks like I got lucky.

I would have grabbed Garcon. Sorry about the Nicks pick.
 

T2urtle

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Oct 18, 2004
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Pick up Jordan Reed (TE, Washington). He's quietly carving out a role in that offense with Fred Davis being phased out.

Oh, and newsflash: Fred Davis has ZERO FANTASY VALUE, PEOPLE! He should not be owned in any league, and I'm being 100% serious. He was inactive in week 3 and now says he has a high ankle sprain but will "try" to play through it in week 4. Jordan Reed is the Redskins' lead receiving tight end and has more value than any of the guys you listed (including Pettigrew, who is junk and should also be dropped in every league).

Reed looks a little banged up. I might wait til Sunday morning before I make a move on him or roll the dice with any random. Te.

Eifert is out there as well. I just need some points in the TE spot. I can't believe everyone in my league has two TE.
 
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kstu

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White may not be injury prone but I drafted him a few years ago and he did not hold up to the spot I drafted him at. He is on my do not draft list. I had him as injury prone, looks like I got lucky.
He was the 10th best WR last year and finshed 8th in 2011. Methinks you are giving yourself a little too much credit.
 

Adrenaline

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He was the 10th best WR last year and finshed 8th in 2011. Methinks you are giving yourself a little too much credit.

Methinks I thought he was injury prone and was not. I had him there and then did not draft him in any league.

I said that I was mistaken and just got lucky. It must have been another receiver but Nicks and S. Jackson are definite avoids for me.
 

Kev

Lifer
Dec 17, 2001
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In a PPR league I have to pick 2 of these 3:

CJ Spiller
Steve Johnson
Bilal Powell

I can't believe this is a difficult decision.
 

AstroManLuca

Lifer
Jun 24, 2004
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Reed looks a little banged up. I might wait til Sunday morning before I make a move on him or roll the dice with any random. Te.

Eifert is out there as well. I just need some points in the TE spot. I can't believe everyone in my league has two TE.

Check out Charles Clay as well. Even Dallas Clark if you're desperate.
 

pete6032

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Why is Roddy White playing at all? Wouldn't he heal faster if he was kept out of games and practice?
 

tHa ShIzNiT

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Why is Roddy White playing at all? Wouldn't he heal faster if he was kept out of games and practice?

Logic says yes. But he has a career-long streak of never missing a game and for some reason that seems to be taking precedence.
 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Gronkowskit looking to be a game time decision. Being the sunday night game that is going to be tough. I have Edelman and fantasy show is saying he's still the value he is even with Gronk back, but his value drops when Amendola returns. I can't play two catchers unless they are on a team named Broncos, can't do it.

I was thinking about being cute and seeing who I could pick up for the sunday night or monday game just to make a educated call on Gronk but I don't have room on my bench. Maybe if I get rid of philip rivers, I only have him because of RG3 looking so rough but RG is still producing fantasy value (garbage time) and has a sweet matchup.

I do not have a dedicated TE slot, instead a 3 way flex who is happily occupied by Joique Bell.
 
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MetalMat

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Lynch had 1 out of 2 good weeks and week 3 is an embarrassment to FF as the Seahawks pulled their starters in the third quarter due to Jacksonville sucking so bad (31-0). Hey, if you're psychic and can tell when Seattle is going to destroy someone (best D in the league) then you will need to bench Lynch and Seattle Def. If you aren't psychic, you may want to stay away.

I have Lynch (1st round pick) and Seattle D (7th round pick) in the same league, needless to say, I do not want to even bother with that league right now. Thank you so much Seattle coaching staff for the loss !!!!

P.S. I would avoid Spiller.

There have been a bunch of 1st/2nd round RB busts so far this year but I would not include Lynch with that. He is still a beast and its not his fault Jacksonville sucks ass and Seattle did not really need to use him. Still I do agree with you that there will be some games that you may want to bench Lynch like when they host the Vikings or Bucs.
 

MetalMat

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Why is Roddy White playing at all? Wouldn't he heal faster if he was kept out of games and practice?

He is being used more as a decoy. Harry Douglas is mostly used out of the slot and there other 2 receivers (Cone & Davis) aren't much a threat. I would imagine this helps Julio from being blanketed in double coverage the whole game.
 
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