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SP33Demon

Lifer
Jun 22, 2001
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The six should not count but the point after does. I believe there is a league setting this.

Yup that's BS.

Man Mccoy somehow stayed healthy all season, what a monster. 37 yards off Eagles record vs Dallas, and most all purpose yards with over 2000. And that's with a lot of garbage time for his backups Polk/Brown.
 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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I think RB of the year needs to go to Jamal Charles. Dude is a beast and rarely is brought to the ground. Most of the time they blow it dead and he's still standing with 4 guys hanging off him.
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
Jun 22, 2001
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I think RB of the year needs to go to Jamal Charles. Dude is a beast and rarely is brought to the ground. Most of the time they blow it dead and he's still standing with 4 guys hanging off him.

Sure, JC is tops in FF points. But by other metrics, he's not as dangerous skill-wise. JC isn't in the top 10 in PFF Elusive Rating, i.e. missed tackles forced. Only Lynch has more missed tackles than McCoy although given their rating, Ivory/Peterson/Murray/Joique would pass him given the same volume (total rushing+receiving attempts, yards after contact, total MTs rushing+receiving, rating):

1) Ivory (179, 3.04, 39, 66.2)
2) Peterson (308, 2.97, 67, 64.6)
3) Lynch (313, 2.50, 79, 63.2)
4) Murray (248, 2.81, 50, 56.7)
5) Joique (207, 2.39, 48, 55.5)
6) McCoy (338, 2.45, 72, 52.2)
7) Bernard (208, 2.36, 42, 47.6)
7) Tate (215, 2.38, 43, 47.6)
9) Lacy (296, 2.34, 60, 47.5)
10) TRich INDY (175, 1.90, 43, 46.7)
...
13) Charles (330, 2.22, 63, 42.4)

In Breakaway Percent (15yd+ Runs + total 15+ yardage) McCoy is better.
1) Spiller 46.5
2) Ivory 44.5
3) Gore 37.4
4) Peterson 36.3
5) McCoy 36.1
6) Forte 36.0
7) Charles 34.0

Other things to consider, Charles has a higher drop rate at 10 drops in 80 catchable passes, McCoy only 3 in 54. Fumbles, only 1 for McCoy and 5 for Charles on similar total volume. McCoy has the most yards in the league after contact behind only Peterson (Peterson 829, McCoy 703 Alfred Morris 701).

Outside of Fantasy, the only thing that Charles does better in real life is block (+1.1 vs -4.5). Also, imagine AP in the Philly scheme with similar volume, it would be nuts watching him run that much against nickel D's, especially with a good 1/2 yard after contact more than McCoy.
 

slayer202

Lifer
Nov 27, 2005
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Sure, JC is tops in FF points. But by other metrics, he's not as dangerous skill-wise. JC isn't in the top 10 in PFF Elusive Rating, i.e. missed tackles forced. Only Lynch has more missed tackles than McCoy although given their rating, Ivory/Peterson/Murray/Joique would pass him given the same volume (total rushing+receiving attempts, yards after contact, total MTs rushing+receiving, rating):

1) Ivory (179, 3.04, 39, 66.2)
2) Peterson (308, 2.97, 67, 64.6)
3) Lynch (313, 2.50, 79, 63.2)
4) Murray (248, 2.81, 50, 56.7)
5) Joique (207, 2.39, 48, 55.5)
6) McCoy (338, 2.45, 72, 52.2)
7) Bernard (208, 2.36, 42, 47.6)
7) Tate (215, 2.38, 43, 47.6)
9) Lacy (296, 2.34, 60, 47.5)
10) TRich INDY (175, 1.90, 43, 46.7)
...
13) Charles (330, 2.22, 63, 42.4)

In Breakaway Percent (15yd+ Runs + total 15+ yardage) McCoy is better.
1) Spiller 46.5
2) Ivory 44.5
3) Gore 37.4
4) Peterson 36.3
5) McCoy 36.1
6) Forte 36.0
7) Charles 34.0

Other things to consider, Charles has a higher drop rate at 10 drops in 80 catchable passes, McCoy only 3 in 54. Fumbles, only 1 for McCoy and 5 for Charles on similar total volume. McCoy has the most yards in the league after contact behind only Peterson (Peterson 829, McCoy 703 Alfred Morris 701).

Outside of Fantasy, the only thing that Charles does better in real life is block (+1.1 vs -4.5). Also, imagine AP in the Philly scheme with similar volume, it would be nuts watching him run that much against nickel D's, especially with a good 1/2 yard after contact more than McCoy.

stfu
 

Kev

Lifer
Dec 17, 2001
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Holy shit... Had my Phil Dawson vs his Mike Crabtree. Was down by .05 at the end, then the pick 6 happened, Dawson got the PAT and I get the .95 point win. Hoooolllllllyyyyyyyyy shit.
 

brainhulk

Diamond Member
Sep 14, 2007
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Wow Vernon Davis puts up a goose egg. Thank god i was up by 130 points already.

I bet there are a lot of pissed off people...
 

MetalMat

Diamond Member
Jun 14, 2004
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I want to say thanks for Michael Crabtree, Frank Gore,Tony Gonzalez, Zac Stacy and Nick Foles for helping my team make it to the finals. I almost left the team for dead when it was 2-4 but with some luck and magic I'm now in the championship
 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Holy shit... Had my Phil Dawson vs his Mike Crabtree. Was down by .05 at the end, then the pick 6 happened, Dawson got the PAT and I get the .95 point win. Hoooolllllllyyyyyyyyy shit.

WOW!

Watch stat corrections. That's close enough.
 

BudAshes

Lifer
Jul 20, 2003
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I was about to lose because I was going against roddy white, kaep, crabtree and davis, while all I had was SF defense and we were tied. Then the pick 6 happened and I went from certain defeat to winning by 8.
 

MetalMat

Diamond Member
Jun 14, 2004
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One more week of playing tight end musical chairs. I dropped Pitta for Marcedes Lewis and am starting him over Antonio Gates. However I am expecting yet another dud, seems like every time I pick up a TE that has been good and start him he does nothing.

I'm also putting in a waiver claim for James Starks. If Eddie Lacy does not play Starks is a must start.
 

Chaotic42

Lifer
Jun 15, 2001
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Wow, you guys with your last games in week 17 need to protest. I don't even like having it in 16.

That said, I came up 2nd, 2nd, and 4th in my leagues. Not terrible.
 

KLin

Lifer
Feb 29, 2000
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Do I have any shot at all? :p
 

dbk

Lifer
Apr 23, 2004
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Maybe if Aaron Rodgers comes back and kills the Bears.. and Riley Cooper blows up vs the Cowboys..worst D in the history of the NFL..this year man
 

MetalMat

Diamond Member
Jun 14, 2004
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Dang and that's what sucks about week 17 championships, the fact that you can't start Charles stinks. Congrats on making it to the finals with your record but I think the train stops here. His team is stacked. Only way I see you pulling off the upset is if Reggie bush sits the game out, stafford lays an egg, manning throws 2 td passes to JT and Wilson lights up the rams. Dez Bryant and shady alone could get him over 50 points easy...
 

KLin

Lifer
Feb 29, 2000
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Dang and that's what sucks about week 17 championships, the fact that you can't start Charles stinks. Congrats on making it to the finals with your record but I think the train stops here. His team is stacked. Only way I see you pulling off the upset is if Reggie bush sits the game out, stafford lays an egg, manning throws 2 td passes to JT and Wilson lights up the rams. Dez Bryant and shady alone could get him over 50 points easy...

I did pick up knile davis and am gonna start him instead of Hartline. Picked up the Pats defense as well.
 
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MetalMat

Diamond Member
Jun 14, 2004
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Jeez, both of my teams are laying a turd today. Not a single touchdown between them and Andre Brown got me negative points. Oh well, unless McCoy and Foles have a legendary game tonight I'm out.