Is this the end of Twinkies?

[Pr0d1gy]

I did read the article, dipshit.

If things are so bad for them, why don't they just quit? If they're willing to lose their jobs and the cuts they've accepted are too much, why don't they just quit and find employment elsewhere?

Last time I checked, Hostess isn't the only large-scale bakery.

They don't quit because people need jobs limpdick. DUH! Employment isn't guaranteed anywhere else, haven't you been paying attention retard?

 

[nehalem256]

How low a wage should people accept? Is $5 an hour a suitable wage to pay someone? I think we are re-litigating debates we had in prior points in the history of our country.

So hostess has the power to pay people below minimum wage, yet somehow they are not able to force these people to come back to work?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I hope they like going from $17-$18/hr to nothing or minimum wage with no benefits.

Reminds me of the factory in the town where I grew up, they went on strike over. having to pay a $10 copay for a doctor's visit. Nine months later the company filed bankruptcy, the people lost their jobs and the retirees lost their pensions.

 

[SheHateMe]

They don't quit because people need jobs limpdick. DUH! Employment isn't guaranteed anywhere else, haven't you been paying attention retard?

His father works some days for fourteen hours; And, you can bet he barely makes a dollar
His mother goes to scrub the floor for many; And, you'd best believe she hardly gets a penny
Living just enough, just enough for the city...

*Stevie Wonder head bob*

 

[datwater]

I will miss the smell of fresh baked bread on my bike ride on the Eastern Trail. It's kind of like the reward at the Biddeford end of the trail. Oh wells.

 

[Nemesis 1]

not exactly skilled labor?

Neither is garbage pick up . But if they stopped and you had to get rid of your own garbage you would cry like a baby . you would also need a pick up truck to dump the garabage You collect.. The entire food processing business is underpaid . From process to serving they are all underpaid . But the Union people don't really want to represent these people or do vary badly at misrepresenting the members . Of this we have much prof. Hormel P-9 strike is a perfect example . No demwits want higher wages for anyone who doesn't raise the cost of living . There is plenty of prof for this . You just keep the blinders on . The cliff your heading for is only a mile drop.

 

[Jmman]

Beat me to it...lol

My wife and I saw chocolate Twinkies in the store the other day and we both commented on whether Tallahassee would eat them.

I was thinking the same thing...lol.......

 

[Matt1970]

They don't quit because people need jobs limpdick. DUH! Employment isn't guaranteed anywhere else, haven't you been paying attention retard?

So they go on strike with a company that just filed bankruptcy? I guess they don't need their job that bad. Hostess has to deal with more than one union. The other Unions already accepted the deal. There are currently 18,000 people that will all lose their jobs if they close shop, all due to these 5000 workers. So not only will the 5000 in the Union that is holding out lose their jobs, the Union will take nearly 3 times as many more down with them. Do they give a flying fuck about that?

 

[zsdersw]

They don't quit because people need jobs limpdick. DUH! Employment isn't guaranteed anywhere else, haven't you been paying attention retard?

Yes, they need jobs... and they should be glad they still have one, not bitching about a temporary pay cut.

 

[Ausm]

If wages are too low, find a higher-paying job or improve your skills/resumé so you can get a higher-paying job.

I don't have to because I made a shitload of cash at my current job thank you!

 

[Nintendesert]

So instead of taking an 8% pay cut the bakers are going to take a 100% pay cut. That makes a ton of sense!

The good side of it is that not only would the 5,000 Union workers lose their jobs, they'll be able to take down 13,000 other worker's jobs. GJ bakers!

 

[Pr0d1gy]

Yes, they need jobs... and they should be glad they still have one, not bitching about a temporary pay cut.

Yeah, so glad to be making $8 an hour when a haircut costs $15.


You must be a fucking genius Private Pyle!

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Yeah, so glad to be making $8 an hour when a haircut costs $15.


You must be a fucking genius Private Pyle!

Wow, you're quite the genius. These workers are making at least double the $8/hr you're claiming. But I'm sure it's too hard for you to search on google to find out the wages being paid by Hostess Brands.

 

[ivwshane]

If I'm reading this right; the bakers are striking because they will be losing their jobs anyway. Basically they are going down fighting and I can't blame them.

The only thing missing from this story is the name Bain capital. Otherwise it's the same old story; buy up a struggling company with sellable assets, break it up and sell off those assets, profit.

Investors don't like to buy companies with issues and this strike is keeping the "Bain capital" companies from selling and profiting.

 

[waggy]

Yeah, so glad to be making $8 an hour when a haircut costs $15.


You must be a fucking genius Private Pyle!

YEAH? they are on there way to make $0 an hour and haircut's still will cost $15..

 

[Darwin333]

This is the way it is supposed to work. If those that desire peoples labor and those providing the labor can not come to an agreement then they go there separate ways, or in this case the company shuts down.

It is also an example of why public unions in their current form, there is no "or else" because the services are monopolistic and necessary by very design. Hell, some of them are often required by state constitutions.

 

[Darwin333]

If I'm reading this right; the bakers are striking because they will be losing their jobs anyway. Basically they are going down fighting and I can't blame them.

The only thing missing from this story is the name Bain capital. Otherwise it's the same old story; buy up a struggling company with sellable assets, break it up and sell off those assets, profit.

Investors don't like to buy companies with issues and this strike is keeping the "Bain capital" companies from selling and profiting.

Lol, burn it all to the ground if I can't get mine eh? Shrug, can't say that I blame them either but if what you say is true that is rather spiteful.

 

[Darwin333]

The good side of it is that not only would the 5,000 Union workers lose their jobs, they'll be able to take down 13,000 other worker's jobs. GJ bakers!

Please enlighten me as to why in the fuck that is the "good side" of this?

 

[ivwshane]

Lol, burn it all to the ground if I can't get mine eh? Shrug, can't say that I blame them either but if what you say is true that is rather spiteful.

Really? You think it's spiteful that employees made concessions in 2004 including salary cuts and benefit cuts only to be sold to investors who are telling them to do the same thing except this time they more than likely wont have a job either way?

Spiteful? I don't think so, I think it's a matter of enough is enough.

 

[Darwin333]

They don't quit because people need jobs limpdick. DUH! Employment isn't guaranteed anywhere else, haven't you been paying attention retard?

Umm, not quite sure if you are being serious or not but it looks like the end result will actually be much worse than simply quitting because they will be taking many more jobs down with them...... Either way, they will be ass out of a job.

 

[Darwin333]

Really? You think it's spiteful that employees made concessions in 2004 including salary cuts and benefit cuts only to be sold to investors who are telling them to do the same thing except this time they more than likely wont have a job either way?

Spiteful? I don't think so, I think it's a matter of enough is enough.

In my personal opinion, burning something simply to burn it is spiteful which is what the post I responded to was implying. You may have good reason to want to get revenge but it doesn't make it any less spiteful, at least in my personal opinion.

 

[CitizenKain]

How much is management getting cut? I always see the workers getting wages cut, but is the CEO who ran the company into the ground getting cut? What are his wages doing? How many useless people with MBAs are dragging the company down?

 

[bozack]

No job is better than a job making $8 an hour with no benefits working for some asshole who is trying to up productivity and cut costs to impress his imperial slave masters. Meanwhile, there are people in that company making millions. So yeah, read the article next time. They already accepted a deal that lowered their salaries and took their benefits before, enough is enough.

This is most likely how many feel, and yet these same people claim not to be part of that 47% who loses their jobs and then goes on government assistance.

The company is on the brink of bankruptcy, clearly they aren't going to be raising wages, so these people will lose their jobs, collect unemployment and just add to the statistics.

Mission accomplished.

 

[Doppel]

So is Hostess still around tonight?

 

[mcurphy]

It's now official, they are going out of business. Time to stock up on Twinkies!!!

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/11/16/hostess-going-out-of-business/

IRVING, Texas (CBS) – Hostess, the maker of Twinkies, Ding Dongs and Wonder Bread, is going out of business, the Associated Press reported.

Hostess made the decision on Friday morning after failing to reach an agreement with striking workers.

Hostess bakeries in Illinois are located in Schiller Park, Hodgkins in the Chicago area and Peoria downstate, and the flagship Hostess product, the Twinkie, was invented by Schiller Park bakery manager James Dewar in 1930 under a precursor company, Continental Baking Co. Twinkies were originally banana-flavored until banana rationing during World War II prompted the company to switch to vanilla cream.

Hostess, based in Irving, Texas, has already reached a contract agreement with its largest union, the International Brotherhood of Teamsters. But thousands of members in its second biggest union went on strike late last week after rejecting a contract offer that cut wages and benefits in September. Officials for the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union say the company stopped contributing to workers’ pensions last year.

Striking Hostess workers standing in solidarity outside the company’s Schiller Park plant on Thursday say, after taking pay cuts in 2004 and 2011, they can’t do it again.

“It’s just so much that we’re just tired,” BCTGM Local 1 president Donald Woods tells CBS 2′s Suzanne Le Mignot outside the Schiller Park bakery, which employs nearly 200.