Is this really the best America has to offer . . .

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: maladroit

Originally posted by: Tyler

Originally posted by: chiwawa626

Originally posted by: Tyler
I think they should take it away from her altogether. What a bitch, I hope she gets hit by a car and dies.

Agreed, minus the dieing part, but hit by a car is ok

I thought of that at first, but you know she'd just sue the driver of the car for millions, and the driver doesn't deserve that for such a good deed, so I added in the dying part.

hahah, i like this guy's logic...

you have so many posts yet i've never seen you in OT before... you should post more often

Yeah, Tyler is cool. Glad that notfred bitch left though, I couldn't stand him.

Viper GTS

 

[Kev]

and i think she should sue herself for $5 million because this ridiculous lawsuit will cause her more humiliation than any co-valedictorian crap

 

[Paulson]

Well if you can't get your way, sue for it!

 

[chiwawa626]

Originally posted by: maladroit

Originally posted by: Tyler

Originally posted by: chiwawa626

Originally posted by: Tyler
I think they should take it away from her altogether. What a bitch, I hope she gets hit by a car and dies.

Agreed, minus the dieing part, but hit by a car is ok

I thought of that at first, but you know she'd just sue the driver of the car for millions, and the driver doesn't deserve that for such a good deed, so I added in the dying part.

hahah, i like this guy's logic...

you have so many posts yet i've never seen you in OT before... you should post more often

He just changed his name, he usedto be "notfred" but apparently he really isnt fred...

 

[Kev]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: maladroit

Originally posted by: Tyler

Originally posted by: chiwawa626

Originally posted by: Tyler
I think they should take it away from her altogether. What a bitch, I hope she gets hit by a car and dies.

Agreed, minus the dieing part, but hit by a car is ok

I thought of that at first, but you know she'd just sue the driver of the car for millions, and the driver doesn't deserve that for such a good deed, so I added in the dying part.

hahah, i like this guy's logic...

you have so many posts yet i've never seen you in OT before... you should post more often

Yeah, Tyler is cool. Glad that notfred bitch left though, I couldn't stand him.

Viper GTS

so are you whimsically pointing out that they are one in the same?

EDIT nevermind, i see i have been answered already

 

[Ulfwald]

I agree with her. <<Flame Suit On>>

She busted her arse to obtain grades
So what if she cannot take Phys ed She is going to be a lawyer, not a track coach
She studied at home Rather than wasting time watching TV, she studied, making the best of wht God gave her, a great mind, and the will to use it
So what if you think she is a fat whore, you probably couldn't get laid in a monkey whore house while carrying a bunch of bannannas.
Her grades are better than anyone elses. She earned it. This is just a liberal "feel good" policy.
I bet if those other students spent as much time on their studies as she did, then they would have no gripes. I am sure that mommy and daddy could have paid a Dr. to write a note so they could have done the same thing, get out of phys ed, go home early, etc.
Dating in HS is overrated anyway. Girls are materialistic, guys are shallow. Don't waste your time, she didn't.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Ulfwald, you forgot the

in your post.

 

[Kev]

Originally posted by: Ulfwald
I agree with her. <<Flame Suit On>>

She busted her arse to obtain grades
So what if she cannot take Phys ed She is going to be a lawyer, not a track coach
She studied at home Rather than wasting time watching TV, she studied, making the best of wht God gave her, a great mind, and the will to use it
So what if you think she is a fat whore, you probably couldn't get laid in a monkey whore house while carrying a bunch of bannannas.
Her grades are better than anyone elses. She earned it. This is just a liberal "feel good" policy.
I bet if those other students spent as much time on their studies as she did, then they would have no gripes. I am sure that mommy and daddy could have paid a Dr. to write a note so they could have done the same thing, get out of phys ed, go home early, etc.
Dating in HS is overrated anyway. Girls are materialistic, guys are shallow. Don't waste your time, she didn't.

it's worth 2.5 million dollars?

and can you honestly say that the other 2 students who have perfect grades EXCEPT for the fact that they took lower-weighted phys ed should not have the same recognition when they actually did more than her?

 

[yoda291]

Originally posted by: Ulfwald
I agree with her. <<Flame Suit On>>

She busted her arse to obtain grades
So what if she cannot take Phys ed She is going to be a lawyer, not a track coach
She studied at home Rather than wasting time watching TV, she studied, making the best of wht God gave her, a great mind, and the will to use it
So what if you think she is a fat whore, you probably couldn't get laid in a monkey whore house while carrying a bunch of bannannas.
Her grades are better than anyone elses. She earned it. This is just a liberal "feel good" policy.
I bet if those other students spent as much time on their studies as she did, then they would have no gripes. I am sure that mommy and daddy could have paid a Dr. to write a note so they could have done the same thing, get out of phys ed, go home early, etc.
Dating in HS is overrated anyway. Girls are materialistic, guys are shallow. Don't waste your time, she didn't.

you have it backwards, she DID attend phys ed. The disabled children did not. I assume, and the impression I get from the article, is that the GPAs of both her and the disabled students are equivalent if you completely knocked gym out of the question. So, it ends up being a matter of both her and the disabled students working hard at their grades. Although, in reality, it's prolly more likely those grades are a matter of massive sucking up to teachers.

 

[Mean MrMustard]

Originally posted by: Ulfwald
I agree with her. <<Flame Suit On>>

She busted her arse to obtain grades
So what if she cannot take Phys ed She is going to be a lawyer, not a track coach
She studied at home Rather than wasting time watching TV, she studied, making the best of wht God gave her, a great mind, and the will to use it
So what if you think she is a fat whore, you probably couldn't get laid in a monkey whore house while carrying a bunch of bannannas.
Her grades are better than anyone elses. She earned it. This is just a liberal "feel good" policy.
I bet if those other students spent as much time on their studies as she did, then they would have no gripes. I am sure that mommy and daddy could have paid a Dr. to write a note so they could have done the same thing, get out of phys ed, go home early, etc.
Dating in HS is overrated anyway. Girls are materialistic, guys are shallow. Don't waste your time, she didn't.

I guess if I wanted to be a track coach, I don't have to take Math or Physics, or pretty much anything that doesn't pertain to P.E., right?

 

[Deadtrees]

She needs to go back to the elementary school to learn what she hasn't learned.


The worst part is that her parents must be behind this as well, and it's even worse that her mother is a state Superior Court judge. What could someone expect from a judge like her?

 

[xuanman]

Originally posted by: maladroit

Originally posted by: Ulfwald
I agree with her. <<Flame Suit On>>

She busted her arse to obtain grades
So what if she cannot take Phys ed She is going to be a lawyer, not a track coach
She studied at home Rather than wasting time watching TV, she studied, making the best of wht God gave her, a great mind, and the will to use it
So what if you think she is a fat whore, you probably couldn't get laid in a monkey whore house while carrying a bunch of bannannas.
Her grades are better than anyone elses. She earned it. This is just a liberal "feel good" policy.
I bet if those other students spent as much time on their studies as she did, then they would have no gripes. I am sure that mommy and daddy could have paid a Dr. to write a note so they could have done the same thing, get out of phys ed, go home early, etc.
Dating in HS is overrated anyway. Girls are materialistic, guys are shallow. Don't waste your time, she didn't.

it's worth 2.5 million dollars?

and can you honestly say that the other 2 students who have perfect grades EXCEPT for the fact that they took lower-weighted phys ed should not have the same recognition when they actually did more than her?

well, the 2.5 million punis aren't supposed to be what it's worth to her. that's taken care of in the 200K compensatory damages. the 2.5 million is supposed to "punish" the school for committing such "egregious" behavior such that they'll think twice before doing the same thing again. all in all, though, i agree this is extremely silly.

 

[StageLeft]

Somebody needs to cough on her. Somebody with a really bad cold.

 

[Ulfwald]

That 2.5 mil is also supposed to make the school system think long and hard about this decission.

Her school district looks at the disagreement another way: Because of an immune deficiency, Hornstine is classified as a disabled student and has taken a class load that doesn't include physical education and involves her spending part of her school day studying at home.

She did not take phys ed according to this quote.

I never said the other courses were not required to be a track coach, quit twisting my words

Did she earn the grades? YES
Did she work hard to earn them? Yes
She obviously has a brilliant mind, the SAT score proves it
Prestigious colleges have accepted her, I doubt @ss-kissing got her that.
Last time I checked, SAT is scored by a computer, so that eliminates her putting out to the judges who score the SAT.
I may be wrong on this point, but I believe that a written essay of top notch quality is submitted in order to be accepted to the Ivy league schools, and they can spot plagerism a mile away.

Sorry folks, your arguments do not hold water with me. She worked hard, applied herself, sacrificed, and overcame a disability. She earned it, so why sould the other students, who have lower grades, have to share an award they did not earn? I could understand it if the GPAs were exactly the same, but they are not.

 

[911paramedic]

Baby Onboard

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Ulfwald
That 2.5 mil is also supposed to make the school system think long and hard about this decission.

Her school district looks at the disagreement another way: Because of an immune deficiency, Hornstine is classified as a disabled student and has taken a class load that doesn't include physical education and involves her spending part of her school day studying at home.

She did not take phys ed according to this quote.

I never said the other courses were not required to be a track coach, quit twisting my words

Did she earn the grades? YES
Did she work hard to earn them? Yes
She obviously has a brilliant mind, the SAT score proves it
Prestigious colleges have accepted her, I doubt @ss-kissing got her that.
Last time I checked, SAT is scored by a computer, so that eliminates her putting out to the judges who score the SAT.
I may be wrong on this point, but I believe that a written essay of top notch quality is submitted in order to be accepted to the Ivy league schools, and they can spot plagerism a mile away.

Sorry folks, your arguments do not hold water with me. She worked hard, applied herself, sacrificed, and overcame a disability. She earned it, so why sould the other students, who have lower grades, have to share an award they did not earn? I could understand it if the GPAs were exactly the same, but they are not.

Scott, the GPAs are not the same because P.E. lowered their GPA. It wasn't weighed as much. She got to use a class that had more weight intstead of PE and they were required to take it.

 

[Cuda1447]

Originally posted by: Ulfwald
That 2.5 mil is also supposed to make the school system think long and hard about this decission.

Her school district looks at the disagreement another way: Because of an immune deficiency, Hornstine is classified as a disabled student and has taken a class load that doesn't include physical education and involves her spending part of her school day studying at home.

She did not take phys ed according to this quote.

I never said the other courses were not required to be a track coach, quit twisting my words

Did she earn the grades? YES
Did she work hard to earn them? Yes
She obviously has a brilliant mind, the SAT score proves it
Prestigious colleges have accepted her, I doubt @ss-kissing got her that.
Last time I checked, SAT is scored by a computer, so that eliminates her putting out to the judges who score the SAT.
I may be wrong on this point, but I believe that a written essay of top notch quality is submitted in order to be accepted to the Ivy league schools, and they can spot plagerism a mile away.

Sorry folks, your arguments do not hold water with me. She worked hard, applied herself, sacrificed, and overcame a disability. She earned it, so why sould the other students, who have lower grades, have to share an award they did not earn? I could understand it if the GPAs were exactly the same, but they are not.

The valedictorian award is based on GPA, and GPA alone. That being said the fact that she did not have to take Phsy ed. and the other kids did meant that she would have a slightly higher GPA ( Phys. ED is not weighted) So no matter how good anyone else did it would be impossible for them to have as high a GPA as her. Three students did perfect in everything they took, 3 students in should get the award IMO. And on top of all that, if this girl is so intelligent then why doesn't she realize that a petty award like this isn't THAT big a deal anyway, and certainly not worth 2.5mil. She's gonna be a crappy lawyer if she thinks she can win this case.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: Ulfwald
That 2.5 mil is also supposed to make the school system think long and hard about this decission.

Her school district looks at the disagreement another way: Because of an immune deficiency, Hornstine is classified as a disabled student and has taken a class load that doesn't include physical education and involves her spending part of her school day studying at home.

She did not take phys ed according to this quote.

I never said the other courses were not required to be a track coach, quit twisting my words

Did she earn the grades? YES
Did she work hard to earn them? Yes
She obviously has a brilliant mind, the SAT score proves it
Prestigious colleges have accepted her, I doubt @ss-kissing got her that.
Last time I checked, SAT is scored by a computer, so that eliminates her putting out to the judges who score the SAT.
I may be wrong on this point, but I believe that a written essay of top notch quality is submitted in order to be accepted to the Ivy league schools, and they can spot plagerism a mile away.

Sorry folks, your arguments do not hold water with me. She worked hard, applied herself, sacrificed, and overcame a disability. She earned it, so why sould the other students, who have lower grades, have to share an award they did not earn? I could understand it if the GPAs were exactly the same, but they are not.

"The two other Moorestown High School seniors with nearly perfect grades could not match her grade-point average, officials said, because classes like gym receive less weight in calculating the GPA"
They said why others had a lower GPA.
Maybe the others should sue for having their GPA lowered by taking Phys Ed, and therefore not having GPA's as high as they could be, and missing out on getting sole valedictorian-ness.

And how is it humiliating? Wow, look, I'm humiliated because I got the top of my class award in my HS.
And what of the others, say she hadn't been at the school, would they have complained about having to share? Or would they have been happy to get the damned thing?
Maybe they could sue for having to share as well?
Hey, they could sue twice, and get 5.4mil each, great idea!

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

She obviously has a brilliant mind, the SAT score proves it

HAHAHAHAHAHA . . . Slate

Bush with a SAT verbal of 566 must be a borderline moron . . . while Bill Bradley (Princeton, Rhodes Scholar) with a SAT verbal of 485 must be an absolute idiot.

So what happens if her LSAT scores are merely above average instead of exceptional . . . what about just passing the Bar . . . was she born a guiding light but now she deserves a dunce cap?!

 

[dfi]

Originally posted by: Ulfwald
I agree with her. <<Flame Suit On>>

She busted her arse to obtain grades
So what if she cannot take Phys ed She is going to be a lawyer, not a track coach
She studied at home Rather than wasting time watching TV, she studied, making the best of wht God gave her, a great mind, and the will to use it
So what if you think she is a fat whore, you probably couldn't get laid in a monkey whore house while carrying a bunch of bannannas.
Her grades are better than anyone elses. She earned it. This is just a liberal "feel good" policy.
I bet if those other students spent as much time on their studies as she did, then they would have no gripes. I am sure that mommy and daddy could have paid a Dr. to write a note so they could have done the same thing, get out of phys ed, go home early, etc.
Dating in HS is overrated anyway. Girls are materialistic, guys are shallow. Don't waste your time, she didn't.

I think you're missing the point. The point is not whether she worked hard or not. The point is that since she didn't have to take physical ed, her GPA is higher. For ppl that did have to take PE, even if they got an A+ in all PE courses, that would hurt their weighted GPA since PE is not weighted.

Example:
non PE student takes 2 weighted course: A (5 pts) + A (5pts) = 10, 10 / num of courses (2) = 5.0 GPA

PE student takes same courses, AND PE: A (5pts) + A (5pts) + A (4 pts cuz PE is not weighted) = 14, 14/3 = 4.66 GPA

How fair is that?

dfi

 

[Deadtrees]

Ulfwald.
Education, going to school, studying is NOT all about getting A+.

 

[Kev]

It will be funny when she makes her speech - whether she is co or sole valedictorian I hope she is booed off-stage and it scars her for the rest of her worthless life.

 

[sadb0i]

This is equally as dumb as the guy who sued the fast food chains because he became overweight. I went through a similar situation in high school, it's not about actually about the valedictorian but the class ranks.

My situation was, when I was a freshman I had almost ALL honors or AP classes, where applicable (not AP P.E. or SHOP ) Well those grades got weighted, meaning I got a 4.00+. Now theres only 4 semesters or so that get weighted, so when I was a senior I got 4.0, non weighted, hindering my GPA and dropping my rank. Ok now, thats not freaking fair when these whiners took dorky regular classes and aced them all and then when junior and senior year comes along they take AP-honors classes and get 4.9+ GPA etc. Now people are all whining and crying about being #1 because blah and blah.

I ended up #15 but still got to the school I wanted to! woot!

My point is get rid of the stupid weight system!!!!

If all students got 4.0 GPA's, then great! Everyone rejoice!

God, she's already been accepted by Ivy league schools. Why give a f*ck about whose valedictorian or not? It's just HIGH SCHOOL!!!!!!


EDIT: DFI beat me to it...

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: Tyler

Originally posted by: chiwawa626

Originally posted by: Tyler
I think they should take it away from her altogether. What a bitch, I hope she gets hit by a car and dies.

Agreed, minus the dieing part, but hit by a car is ok

I thought of that at first, but you know she'd just sue the driver of the car for millions, and the driver doesn't deserve that for such a good deed, so I added in the dying part.

Hell, she'd sue not only the driver, but also the company that made the car! People are just fvcking retarded these days. :disgust:

 

[Jzero]

The valedictorian award is based on GPA, and GPA alone. That being said the fact that she did not have to take Phsy ed. and the other kids did meant that she would have a slightly higher GPA ( Phys. ED is not weighted) So no matter how good anyone else did it would be impossible for them to have as high a GPA as her.

Exactly. I dunno if it's just a NJ thing, but basically if you are running with a high GPA and are competing to be valedictorian, you actually have to AVOID taking any non-honors/AP classes. If you have a ~5.0 GPA on a 4.0 scale, getting an "A" in a CP-track class can serve only to hurt your overall GPA.

It's hard for people to understand how taking a study hall can possibly be better for your grade than taking an easy-A elective like Concert Band, but that's the unfortunate way that it works.