Is this really the best America has to offer . . .

[Ulfwald]

Granted, the weighted system is unfair. Do away with it.

Were her SAT scores higher than the others? If yes, then she deserves the honor alone.
Quit requiring Phys Ed to be taken, make it an elective. That way other kids can choose to take the higher weighted course as well, therefore providing a level playing field for all.

 

[Kev]

Originally posted by: sadb0i
This is equally as dumb as the guy who sued the fast food chains because he became overweight. I went through a similar situation in high school, it's not about actually about the valedictorian but the class ranks.

My situation was, when I was a freshman I had almost ALL honors or AP classes, where applicable (not AP P.E. or SHOP ) Well those grades got weighted, meaning I got a 4.00+. Now theres only 4 semesters or so that get weighted, so when I was a senior I got 4.0, non weighted, hindering my GPA and dropping my rank. Ok now, thats not freaking fair when these whiners took dorky regular classes and aced them all and then when junior and senior year comes along they take AP-honors classes and get 4.9+ GPA etc. Now people are all whining and crying about being #1 because blah and blah.

I ended up #15 but still got to the school I wanted to! woot!

My point is get rid of the stupid weight system!!!!

If all students got 4.0 GPA's, then great! Everyone rejoice!

God, she's already been accepted by Ivy league schools. Why give a f*ck about whose valedictorian or not? It's just HIGH SCHOOL!!!!!!

Or you can do it like my H.S. did it - make the valedictorian the person who writes the best speech, and have them voted on by teachers. Our valedictorian was ranked 19 and I was ranked a little higher than him but I didn't give an S because it doesn't matter.

 

[silverpig]

I practically asked NOT to be valedictorian, despite having the grades and whatnot to be a shoe-in...

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: maladroit

Originally posted by: sadb0i
This is equally as dumb as the guy who sued the fast food chains because he became overweight. I went through a similar situation in high school, it's not about actually about the valedictorian but the class ranks.

My situation was, when I was a freshman I had almost ALL honors or AP classes, where applicable (not AP P.E. or SHOP ) Well those grades got weighted, meaning I got a 4.00+. Now theres only 4 semesters or so that get weighted, so when I was a senior I got 4.0, non weighted, hindering my GPA and dropping my rank. Ok now, thats not freaking fair when these whiners took dorky regular classes and aced them all and then when junior and senior year comes along they take AP-honors classes and get 4.9+ GPA etc. Now people are all whining and crying about being #1 because blah and blah.

I ended up #15 but still got to the school I wanted to! woot!

My point is get rid of the stupid weight system!!!!

If all students got 4.0 GPA's, then great! Everyone rejoice!

God, she's already been accepted by Ivy league schools. Why give a f*ck about whose valedictorian or not? It's just HIGH SCHOOL!!!!!!

Or you can do it like my H.S. did it - make the valedictorian the person who writes the best speech, and have them voted on by teachers. Our valedictorian was ranked 19 and I was ranked a little higher than him but I didn't give an S because it doesn't matter.

In my HS you had to submit an application for valedictorian. You wrote an essay saying why you wanted it, and then a commitee of teachers + administration + some of the students' council read them all over, factored in your grades + citizenship etc, and they chose... I had all the students and most of the teachers on the council vote for me, despite the fact that I didn't apply

I hate speeches

 

[Atlantean]

What a bitch they should take it away from her entirely, and say valedictorian is based not only on your studies but also on your character and how much you do for the community, and also your participation in gym

 

[sadb0i]

Originally posted by: maladroit

Originally posted by: sadb0i
This is equally as dumb as the guy who sued the fast food chains because he became overweight. I went through a similar situation in high school, it's not about actually about the valedictorian but the class ranks.

My situation was, when I was a freshman I had almost ALL honors or AP classes, where applicable (not AP P.E. or SHOP ) Well those grades got weighted, meaning I got a 4.00+. Now theres only 4 semesters or so that get weighted, so when I was a senior I got 4.0, non weighted, hindering my GPA and dropping my rank. Ok now, thats not freaking fair when these whiners took dorky regular classes and aced them all and then when junior and senior year comes along they take AP-honors classes and get 4.9+ GPA etc. Now people are all whining and crying about being #1 because blah and blah.

I ended up #15 but still got to the school I wanted to! woot!

My point is get rid of the stupid weight system!!!!

If all students got 4.0 GPA's, then great! Everyone rejoice!

God, she's already been accepted by Ivy league schools. Why give a f*ck about whose valedictorian or not? It's just HIGH SCHOOL!!!!!!

Or you can do it like my H.S. did it - make the valedictorian the person who writes the best speech, and have them voted on by teachers. Our valedictorian was ranked 19 and I was ranked a little higher than him but I didn't give an S because it doesn't matter.

That was the general feeling of the majority of "co-valedictorians," but there had to be that one girl that tried to fight the whole damn thing.

 

[sadb0i]

Originally posted by: Atlantean
What a bitch they should take it away from her entirely, and say valedictorian is based not only on your studies but also on your character and how much you do for the community, and also your participation in gym

LMAO!

 

[GtPrOjEcTX]

immune deficiency? she have HIV? she a bubble girl???

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Ulfwald
Granted, the weighted system is unfair. Do away with it.

Were her SAT scores higher than the others? If yes, then she deserves the honor alone.
Quit requiring Phys Ed to be taken, make it an elective. That way other kids can choose to take the higher weighted course as well, therefore providing a level playing field for all.

SAT has no weight when it comes to valedictorian or salutatorian. It is based solely on GPA.

 

[dfi]

Originally posted by: Ulfwald
Granted, the weighted system is unfair. Do away with it.

Were her SAT scores higher than the others? If yes, then she deserves the honor alone.
Quit requiring Phys Ed to be taken, make it an elective. That way other kids can choose to take the higher weighted course as well, therefore providing a level playing field for all.

The thing is, the honor of valedictorian is not based on SAT. So whether or not she got a higher SAT is irrelevant. You can argue that SAT should be included when considering who is valedictorian, but given the currect selection process, the only thing in question is whether the GPAs are calculated fairly. In that respect, I think this girl has no chance at all of winning her case.

dfi

 

[Jzero]

SAT has no weight when it comes to valedictorian or salutatorian. It is based solely on GPA.

Not to mention, SAT is a freaking joke. It measures your ability to take a standardized test far more than it measures your level of knowledge.

 

[Marshallj]

Moorestown is 5 minutes from my house. It's a very, very, very stuck up area. This article does not surprise me at all.


It seems that almost every kid there has a dad who's either on a board of directors, is a CEO of an influential company, is a judge, or some other figure of influence. I think this dispute is more about the fathers trying to exert their influence to get a "trophy" than anything else.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: Marshallj
Moorestown is 5 minutes from my house. It's a very, very, very stuck up area. This article does not surprise me at all.

LOL there's a lot of Jerseyans on here.

<---Delran native

 

[Marshallj]

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: Marshallj
Moorestown is 5 minutes from my house. It's a very, very, very stuck up area. This article does not surprise me at all.

LOL there's a lot of Jerseyans on here.

<---Delran native

Wow, that's right down the steet from me. I'm in Edgewater Park.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: Marshallj

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: Marshallj
Moorestown is 5 minutes from my house. It's a very, very, very stuck up area. This article does not surprise me at all.

LOL there's a lot of Jerseyans on here.

<---Delran native

Wow, that's right down the steet from me. I'm in Edgewater Park.

*hits you with a rock.
Small world

 

[Kyteland]

My last year in high school they started offering an option to increase the weight of classes like PhysEd and Band. Normally these classes were "regular" level classes, but if you wanted to be able to get the "honors" level weighting (they didn't allow "AP" level weighting unless it was an actual AP class) you could request it, but you had to do extra work. I don't remember what it was for gym class, but for band we had to do some music composition and performances.

I thought this worked fairly well because you weren't punished for taking "regular" classes that had no "honors" option. Something like that would have definitely averted this situation.

 

[Ender]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Screw her. She must think she's pretty important, yet it took her until age 18 to get through HS.

I'm not impressed.

Viper GTS

So I guess you've already graduated from MIT or Harvard, huh?

If not then she has achieved a lot more then you have.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Ender

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Screw her. She must think she's pretty important, yet it took her until age 18 to get through HS.

I'm not impressed.

Viper GTS

So I guess you've already graduated from MIT or Harvard, huh?

If not then she has achieved a lot more then you have.

I believe Greg has his college degree my friend.

 

[rectifire]

IMHO, this girl embodies one of the many things wrong with this country. I guess that she wasn't there the day they taught SHARING in kindergarten.

I can't imagine why this girl (and/or her parents) are being so unreasonable and selfish over an award that will make no tangible difference in the rest of her life. Asking a court for 2+ million dollars in compensatory and punative damages is just the height of stupidity. Yet another case in which a person is academically brilliant, but lacks a basic degree of common sense and life experience.

She should enjoy her time in the limelight as covaledictorian, since it is most likely the only time in her life that she will be able to have such an honor. At Ivy League schools, everyone is a high school valedictorian. She may very well find herself struggling just to stay in the middle of the pack. :disgust:

 

[Marshallj]

Originally posted by: rectifire
IMHO, this girl embodies one of the many things wrong with this country. I guess that she wasn't there the day they taught SHARING in kindergarten.

I can't imagine why this girl (and/or her parents) are being so unreasonable and selfish over an award that will make no tangible difference in the rest of her life.

Come visit Moorestown near me, and you'll quickly see why people act like that. It's home to some of the most superficial and greedy people I've ever met.

 

[Marshallj]

Originally posted by: rectifire
At Ivy League schools, everyone is a high school valedictorian. She may very well find herself struggling just to stay in the middle of the pack. :disgust:

I think most Ivy League schools are nothing more than an exclusive place for people of influence to send their kids, as a trophy.

I wonder how much of Harvard's class is graded on schoolwork, and how much is graded by how much their parents contribute to the school. If you have enough money and help them build a new library on their campus, it's pretty safe to say that your kid is getting an "A". I think who is nominated to be the prestigious Valedictorian at Harvard is more about politics and whose parent can pull the most strings, and less about grades or schoolwork.

Even George Bush went to Yale.... come on! I'm not a Bush hater, I chose him over Gore, but I'm sure his father had a lot to do with him getting in.

I think many of these kids with very influential parents go through life walking on a path paved for them in gold.

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: chiwawa626

Originally posted by: Tyler
I think they should take it away from her altogether. What a bitch, I hope she gets hit by a car and dies.

Agreed, minus the dieing part, but hit by a car is ok

I cannot believe she wants 2.5 million...

Eat it bitch.

God share the freakin award, and go to school and get your degree.

 

[Marshallj]

Originally posted by: bjc112
I cannot believe she wants 2.5 million...

Eat it bitch.

God share the freakin award, and go to school and get your degree.

For people from Moorestown, a degree is just a meaningless formality... a trophy.

Make no doubt about it, these people are set for life already. You need money to make money. These people have a lot of money and influence. These kids are set for life even if they sit home and watch TV all day.

 

[Moonbeam]

I think she should be offered a choice of either the money or sole validictorian and if she takes the money give her neither.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: Ender

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Screw her. She must think she's pretty important, yet it took her until age 18 to get through HS.

I'm not impressed.

Viper GTS

So I guess you've already graduated from MIT or Harvard, huh?

If not then she has achieved a lot more then you have.

Both my sister & I skipped HS entirely. I had a college degree at 15, she had hers at 16. She will have a four year degree at 18.

There is nothing wrong with going to HS, but being high school valedictorian doesn't mean jack when there are MANY people who have college degrees LONG before the age of 18.

Note that I am NOT saying that being valedictorian is a bad thing, because it certainly isn't. But I'm much more impressed by my sister who will have a four year degree (majoring in history) by the time she's this girl's age - And she isn't an arrogant bitch.

Viper GTS