Is This Racial Profiling?

[soltrain]

The manager at the store is either idiotic or extremely idiotic. You cannot give them a reciept and let them walk away only to yell/shout after they have left the store, and then lock them out. The white person in front of them at checkout has nothing to do with it and should not be considered. I applaud the family for calling the cops after they were locked out of the store.

 

[johnjohn320]

That's a very poorly written news article. I can't even tell what's going on, and all they did was quote the father.

And I second the "who the hell gives their kid $40 from the tooth fairy?" statement.

 

[alkemyst]

$40 for a tooth is nothing really to the ultra rich....

However hearing about such things seem unreal to those outside of them.

 

[przero]

maybe they could review the security tapes to see who is telling the truth!

 

[MegaloManiaK]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

a bank has confirmed that the $20 bill was indeed counterfeit.

That's all the information you need.

ZV

EDIT: For those who say "it's just $20", bear in mind that the $20 bill is the single most widely counterfeitted piece of currency. The common thought is that it is large enough that you don't have to counterfeit a whole crapload of them to buy something and small enough that most stores won't check. Given the sales volume of a store like Toys R Us, it makes perfect sense that they check the bills to make sure that they are not counterfeit.

Just because the clerk screwed up royally by accepting the counterfeit bill doesn't mean that the manager should have just written off the loss instead of taking measures to prevent it.

I have no opinion about the original case in question here, but.

Have you ever had them use the marker on one of your 20's?

Im sure you are going to say yes no matter what but ive never had that done to me.

 

[whaleskinrug]

our local drugstore now marks all bills $10 and up, so we are planning to go in there with a highlighter and start marking our change

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
$40 for a tooth is nothing really to the ultra rich....

However hearing about such things seem unreal to those outside of them.

$1 per tooth, and I was lucky to get it.


Oh and Chuck E Cheese is the same way, Some friends and I got got turned away at the door when we tried to go there when we had the day off of school the week before our HS graduation ceremony. If you were 21( or maybe 18) you could go in and play with the kiddies by yourself though.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: MegaloManiaK

I have no opinion about the original case in question here, but.

Have you ever had them use the marker on one of your 20's?

Im sure you are going to say yes no matter what but ive never had that done to me.

Thanks for the implication that I must be a liar. I appreciate that. Jackass.

Have I ever had Toys R Us use the marker on any of my $20 bills? No.

Have I even been in Toys R Us in the last 10 years? No.

Have I ever had a bank use that sort of marker on a $20 bill that I was depositing into my own account? Yes.

Have I ever had an office supply store use that sort of marker on a $20 bill that I was using for payment? Yes.

Have I ever had various other places use that sort of marker? Yes.

Welcome to the real world, where people are not nice and smiley and trusting.

ZV

 

[classy]

Well first of all the people at Toys rus were clearly in the wrong. Why the manager acted as she did is questionable. But counterfit money is in circulation all over the place. I seriously doubt they passed this bill knowingly. Case in point we were in church one day at a seminar and a woman realized she had a fake $20. So to make it sound like these people were treated like this cause of fake money is a joke. Now why they were treated like that is questionable.

 

[classy]

Also most stores don't mark $20 bills while the customer is there in line. A 50 or 100 they do, but not 20s.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: classy
Also most stores don't mark $20 bills while the customer is there in line. A 50 or 100 they do, but not 20s.

Where you are perhaps. I've had it done several times.

ZV

 

[CZroe]

I got racially profiled AND I DON'T CARE 🙂

Some guy who I stopped hanging out with in my early teens showed up at my bachelor pad late the other night. Years ago, we went our seperate ways after he started spiraling into all that I swore I would never touch (Booze, Cigarettes, Pot, Crack Cocaine, Acid, X, etc). I'm now 23. My friends and I were playing Mario Party-e (Card game). We were hurrying because it was already past the time one was supposed to be home, so the guy just waited in my living room while we all ignored him. I knew he needed a ride or money or something, and I also knew to make sure that he knew I was watching in case he tried to steal anything. Yes, he's that kinda junkie. He even spent his dad's cancer medication money on his habits (His dad, a good man, has been bedridden for the last few months. It truely is his last days).

When we finished, I wanted him out of the house so when he asked if he could hitch a ride home while I was taking my friend home I readily agreed. I wasn't going to leave him with my other friends and wonder if he took something... No way!

He asked me to drop him off at a friend's house instead, which was "on the way back." Sure enough, he had me drive him to a really slummy area and tried to get me to give him $5 for a pocket maglight he had. I refused (I really didn't have a single penny). I waited to make sure he was able to get in but before anyone answered the door he came back and told me to drive around the block once (Really, a big U-shaped street) and pick him up. I wasn't going to leave him out there to get shot or something (It was a REALLY bad neighborhood), plus I didn't want him coming back to trash my place for ditching him so I played dumb and drove around. Some trashy woman saw me driving slow enough for her to yell something through my window and started yelling at me, DEMANDING me to stop. Yeah right.

He hopped back in the car and told me to take him home. To deter any more of this, I reminded him that my brake light was out and I've been pulled over by police using it as an excuse to search me just two days earlier (It was really half of one brake light). We go back, except he ends up back at my place. My other friends are ready to go at this point and I make it CLEAR that my brother and I are ready to go to sleep. He goes to the bathroom and does something for 30 minutes (NOT toilet-related). My brother gets in the car with another friend (Older brother of the one I took home earlier), and he comes running out to hitch a ride with them. Good riddance I thought, but he would later return with my brother. I would find out the next day that he wound up taking him to the same place. Anyway, when they get back, he goes into the bathroom AGAIN. I wait until he comes out then wake my other friend up ad say "Let's go. Everyone has to leave. I have to go to sleep" and the guy goes right back to the bathroom. My groggy / grumpy friend gets in the car with me and I leave the other guy and my brother inside. I rev my engine, sit there for a few minutes, warm up the car and stall as long as I can while waiting for the other guy. He never comes, so I take my friend home and come back. THEN he claims that he didn't know I was leaving and was ready to go home. I take him home, he asks me to come in for a drink. It's 4am but he insists and says he'll give me the gas money he owes us. I reluctantly go in and hear him tell his dad, ON HIS DEATH BED that he needs $10 because I'm selling him a Super Nintendo with two games and two controllers. His dad gives him $20 and says he needs the change back. He gets back in my car before I do and says I get $5 in gas if I'll take him someplace else ~25mins away. I made it 15 mins because I was ready to go to sleep. He goes, comes back empty handed and beggs me to make one more pass at the place we were before on the way home. I promised myself right here that I would just leave him there. I took him back and he asked me to go down the road, turn around in someone's driveway and pick him back up. NOPE! I go around to the other side of the U-shaped road and a police car squeezes right by me. I've got nothing to hide, let him pull me over. Sure enough, he IMMEDIATELY turns around and follows me. I go about a mile and find myself surrounded by blue lights. Gave the usual License and registration proof of insurance etc. He asked what I was doing there: An old friend I hadn't seen in years showed up and asked me to take him home. I don't think he lives here but this is where he told me to take him. He asked if I was drinking: No sir. Not a drop in my life. Did I smoke Marajuana: No sir. I think that stuff's why this guy and myself drifted apart. He could tell I wasn't lying. Then he said: "I don't mean to racially profile but a white boy has no business in that neighborhood. They aren't afraid to shoot at me and I'm a cop. They shoot at my patrol car routinely" He made it clear that he pulled me over because it was odd for a white man to be in that area. Then he covered his ass by saying that the reason he pulled me over was that I had a broken tail light. He didn't even tell me that I needed to get that fixed.

OMFG! I got pulled over because I'm white! Call the press! Get me a lawyer! I wan't $100,000! Who cares if he had reason to be suspicious because of the neighborhood?!

After driving off, I discovered a pill plain as day in my passenger seat. If I had a working interior light he would have seen it for sure. I'd probably be in jail right now... For being white! It was small, round, brown and squishy (Liquid interior). It looked like a chocolate bead. I don't remember what letter it had printed on it.

Now, if I can totally understand the reason I was pulled over and be OK with it, can't someone let Toys R Us alone?

 

[przero]

I love the way you people assume the article is telling the truth!

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: MegaloManiaK

I have no opinion about the original case in question here, but.

Have you ever had them use the marker on one of your 20's?

Im sure you are going to say yes no matter what but ive never had that done to me.

Dude you realize you have to at least have a $20 bill first before they mark it right? once mommy trusts you more come back and let us know how it went.

I have had $20 bills marked countless times. $50/100's nowhere near the percentage I have had 20's inspected, flipped around,etc....

but wait...let me think a minute, hmmm I wonder if this is why the government spent sooooo much money on revamping the $20 bill for security.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: classy
Also most stores don't mark $20 bills while the customer is there in line. A 50 or 100 they do, but not 20s.

?!? what good will it do after the fact?

 

[dabuddha]

You're poll is messed up. You need to change the first option to "Yes, they stepped over the line" or something. They should have checked the bills, no doubt about that. We do that for anyone and everyone at my parent's place.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: CZroe
I got racially profiled AND I DON'T CARE 🙂

Some guy who I stopped hanging out with in my early teens showed up at my bachelor pad late the other night. Years ago, we went our seperate ways after he started spiraling into all that I swore I would

[snipped sunday evening story time]

Then he said: "I don't mean to racially profile but a white boy has no business in that neighborhood. They aren't afraid to shoot at me and I'm a cop. They shoot at my patrol car routinely" He made it clear that he pulled me over because it was odd for a white man to be in that area. Then he covered his ass by saying that the reason he pulled me over was that I had a broken tail light. He didn't even tell me that I needed to get that fixed.

OMFG! I got pulled over because I'm white! Call the press! Get me a lawyer! I wan't $100,000! Who cares if he had reason to be suspicious because of the neighborhood?!

After driving off, I discovered a pill plain as day in my passenger seat. If I had a working interior light he would have seen it for sure. I'd probably be in jail right now... For being white! It was small, round, brown and squishy (Liquid interior). It looked like a chocolate bead. I don't remember what letter it had printed on it.

Now, if I can totally understand the reason I was pulled over and be OK with it, can't someone let Toys R Us alone?

hmmm seems a lot of boasting and embellishment above (bachelor pad, 30mins in a restroom, etc etc etc)...I don't disagree you got pulled over for being white in the 'wrong' neighborhood, I have quite a few times...however most of that story had nothing to say other than the squareness of your circle of friends and you. You should go out and have a drink and think about it.

 

[Spencer278]

Originally posted by: classy
Well first of all the people at Toys rus were clearly in the wrong. Why the manager acted as she did is questionable. But counterfit money is in circulation all over the place. I seriously doubt they passed this bill knowingly. Case in point we were in church one day at a seminar and a woman realized she had a fake $20. So to make it sound like these people were treated like this cause of fake money is a joke. Now why they were treated like that is questionable.

They were treated bad because the manager is incompetant. I would guess that they knew the bill was fake. First of all he works in a bank so I'm sure he has seen and handled real and fake money. I'm willing to bet he uses an ATM which only give out 20's so I don't belive that he got the 20 as change for braking a 50 or 100 at a store.

One more question since when has conterfiting be a "black" crime. How can it be racial profiling when there is no belief that one race commits the crime more often then another.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: SuperGroove
This hits home, as I was kicked out of Toys R Us with my brother, who was 16 years old at the time, for being too young. They told us that we had to be at least 21 years old to be allowed in the store. My Brother and I are both Korean. This was quite a long time ago, but yikes. I hate Toys R Us.

A lot of places like Toys 'R Us have adopted policies that people under 18/21 are not allowed in the store unless accompanied by a parent or guardian, due to the fact that many such people were leaving their kids at the stores as a form of day care. A friend of mine has had to do something similar at the game store he runs, as they have consoles out for people to try the games on before they buy them, and there were parents that would just leave their kids there at store's opening, and pick them up when closing time arrived.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

a bank has confirmed that the $20 bill was indeed counterfeit.

That's all the information you need.

ZV

EDIT: For those who say "it's just $20", bear in mind that the $20 bill is the single most widely counterfeitted piece of currency. The common thought is that it is large enough that you don't have to counterfeit a whole crapload of them to buy something and small enough that most stores won't check. Given the sales volume of a store like Toys R Us, it makes perfect sense that they check the bills to make sure that they are not counterfeit.

Just because the clerk screwed up royally by accepting the counterfeit bill doesn't mean that the manager should have just written off the loss instead of taking measures to prevent it.

It is the most widely counterfeited currency in the United States. Outside the United States, the most counterfeited currency is the U.S. $100.00 bill.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

a bank has confirmed that the $20 bill was indeed counterfeit.

That's all the information you need.

ZV

EDIT: For those who say "it's just $20", bear in mind that the $20 bill is the single most widely counterfeitted piece of currency. The common thought is that it is large enough that you don't have to counterfeit a whole crapload of them to buy something and small enough that most stores won't check. Given the sales volume of a store like Toys R Us, it makes perfect sense that they check the bills to make sure that they are not counterfeit.

Just because the clerk screwed up royally by accepting the counterfeit bill doesn't mean that the manager should have just written off the loss instead of taking measures to prevent it.

The police officer on the scene says the pen was faulty and why would the people passing counterfit bills call the police?

"Toys R Us treats all our guests with dignity and respect" LMAO

 

[cherrytwist]

You guys are missing the entire point of this post.

The tooth fairy is passing counterfeit bills!

I suggest you change the topic right now.

 

[XZeroII]

It's just some people looking for a lawsuit.

"He said his wife can't sleep" Yea, right. I might be shaken up for a day or so, but I certainly wouldn't have trouble sleeping.

I saw nothing in there indicating race of any kind. Those people should be fined for wasting other people's time.

 

[CubicZirconia]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: CubicZirconia

unfortunately? make ToysRUs pay for their idiocy, foo. give em $100,000, and don't have a night manager for a year or so.

Maybe they could make the manager come up with the 100 grand. That way everyone but the manager wins, and she should be the loser in the situation.

You'd put someone $100,000 into debt because someone who passed a counterfeit bill got their feelings hurt?

First: I wasn't really serious, I think they people involved should just get over it. A lawsuit should not be involved.

Second: If the manager behaved as claimed (with the yelling and the criminal accusations), she clearly handled the situation poorly. She should be dealt with somehow.

Does this have anything to do with race? I doubt it. Does this have everything to do with the manager not handling things properly? I think so.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I've had people use those pens on bills I've presented before and I'm a middle class white male in my mid 30s. What's the big deal? If the store has had problems with people passing counterfeit bills in the past then they would probably do more screening and if they possible had an idea who was passing those bills or a vague description then yeah, you might be singled out because you fit the description. Get over it.

People who dwell on this sort of thing just enable the 'victim mentality'. I'm sure their kids will also be 'victims'.

Big surprise that Johnny Cochran is taking the case. He's taking a page right out of the Jessie Jackson corporate shake down manual.