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zinfamous

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Sssnail has jumped on and off so many bandwagons that it is hard to keep track of his "allegiances." So it is Alex Smith this week?

to be fair, it sounds like he has been more an Alex Smith fan than anything, or it could be the way everything went down last year that shifted his allegiance.

I can relate....I pull for certain teams in a fleeting nature, depending on who plays for them: I became a Rams fan the day they drafted Torry Holt (Hey, no one thought they would go from shit to Super Bowl champs that season!), the Chargers the day Philip Rivers showed up, and Seattle when Russell Wilson was drafted. See a trend? And yeah, I suppose it would be nice to see Glennon do well in TB :D

I pull for the Bears because I lived in Chicago long enough, and it's just fun to be a fan in Chicago. I'm mostly indifferent to the Niners and Raiders, but I like Harbaugh and Gore, and I just like watching that team play.

I pull for the Redskins above any of those, regardless of their shitiness.
 

smackababy

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British built android?

The cold weather effects the viscosity of it's lubrication, thus making it throw less accurately.



I will never not be a Cowboys fan. The Oilers abandoned my hometown, and even then I was a Cowboys fan before then.
 

SSSnail

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Sssnail has jumped on and off so many bandwagons that it is hard to keep track of his "allegiances." So it is Alex Smith this week?
No, you just have shitty memory. It's been two, Brady (whom I still think is the best QB to play the game), and Smith.
 

darkewaffle

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$100k fine for Tomlin and supposedly it could even result in a lost/modified draft pick.

The fine I get, but a draft pick seems going too far especially considering how relatively massive the fine is.
 

rudeguy

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$100k fine for Tomlin and supposedly it could even result in a lost/modified draft pick.

The fine I get, but a draft pick seems going too far especially considering how relatively massive the fine is.

even though it was an accident, its a huge deal

They have to have zero tolerance on this stuff. He wasn't even allowed on the field, or on the actual sideline (there is a line he is supposed to be behind). Interfering with a play is a big, big deal.
 

jhansman

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No, you just have shitty memory. It's been two, Brady (whom I still think is the best QB to play the game), and Smith.

Pulllease. This pretty boy couldn't shine John Elway's shoes, let alone Joe Montana's. You must have started watching NFL football in the last 5 yrs. Today Brady is just another NFL starter, nothing more, nothing less.

If he and his mediocre bunch run up against Seattle, they will get their collective asses kicked all the way home.


Now, if you were to say Manning, I might have to concede.
 
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smackababy

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even though it was an accident, its a huge deal

They have to have zero tolerance on this stuff. He wasn't even allowed on the field, or on the actual sideline (there is a line he is supposed to be behind). Interfering with a play is a big, big deal.

Have you seen the replay? He knew damn well the receiver was coming down that sideline. He was not looking at the screen, he was looking at the play. He knew he was on the field, interfering with a play against his team.

The fine isn't even that large. Spygate cost more, and everyone in the league was doing it. I hope they lose a draft pick or have something more severe than a fine levied against him.
 

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Have you seen the replay? He knew damn well the receiver was coming down that sideline. He was not looking at the screen, he was looking at the play. He knew he was on the field, interfering with a play against his team.

The fine isn't even that large. Spygate cost more, and everyone in the league was doing it. I hope they lose a draft pick or have something more severe than a fine levied against him.

Is the replay posted anywhere?
 

Jimzz

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$100k fine for Tomlin and supposedly it could even result in a lost/modified draft pick.

The fine I get, but a draft pick seems going too far especially considering how relatively massive the fine is.


From what I have read its a bluff to pull the draft pick, for now. They use it now as a warning so others will not do it. If they do then they will cut a draft pick if it happens again.

I do think he should be suspended at least a game or 2 though.
 

darkewaffle

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even though it was an accident, its a huge deal

They have to have zero tolerance on this stuff. He wasn't even allowed on the field, or on the actual sideline (there is a line he is supposed to be behind). Interfering with a play is a big, big deal.

I get that, but when you compare it to the fines people get for other stuff it seems kind of out of whack personally. Like, to me, he screwed up but what he did isn't nearly as bad as some of the fights, malicious tackles, dangerous blocks and other stuff you see more often. If this is worth a 100k fine, then a lot of other behavior on the field is severely undervalued/underpunished imo.
 

RPD

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Very huge game for SF, really, deep down I'm pretty sure we'll lose the game based on the last 2 times we did play them. We do have Crabtree back, but it just seems we are so flat against the Seahawks. I'm just hoping for a much better showing than the last times and I'd be happy.

Just seems they can stack the box to stuff the run, then we can't pass so we have no offense.
 
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RPD

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I get that, but when you compare it to the fines people get for other stuff it seems kind of out of whack personally. Like, to me, he screwed up but what he did isn't nearly as bad as some of the fights, malicious tackles, dangerous blocks and other stuff you see more often. If this is worth a 100k fine, then a lot of other behavior on the field is severely undervalued/underpunished imo.

Eh, I get the fine amount. If you've played football, it's drilled into you at a very young age you don't even get near the white buffer area of a side line. It's bad enough when you get excited about a play and start crowding it and the coaching staff has to get the team back past it, its a entirely different issue to have a coach THAT far in the border even possibly on the field. He should not have been that oblivious to what was going on.

I second his statement that anyone thinking he was doing it on purpose is insane.
 

rudeguy

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Is the replay posted anywhere?

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smackababy

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Is the replay posted anywhere?

I saw it on MNF, it was one of the "Come on, man"s.

EDIT: only the first of rude's gifs loaded for me. But, in the other two, you can clearly see he was looking behind at the play, not the jumotron as he claimed. Simply lying about it should be a suspension, IMO.
 

smackababy

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Eh, I get the fine amount. If you've played football, it's drilled into you at a very young age you don't even get near the white buffer area of a side line. It's bad enough when you get excited about a play and start crowding it and the coaching staff has to get the team back past it, its a entirely different issue to have a coach THAT far in the border even possibly on the field. He should not have been that oblivious to what was going on.

I second his statement that anyone thinking he was doing it on purpose is insane.

He directly interfered with a play. Was it going to be a TD, or at least more yardage, if the player didn't have to account for him being in the way? I think so.

He knew damn well what he was doing, he was looking backwards towards the player.
 

RPD

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He directly interfered with a play. Was it going to be a TD, or at least more yardage, if the player didn't have to account for him being in the way? I think so.

He knew damn well what he was doing, he was looking backwards towards the player.

That's not the type of person he is.

The runner should have just ran him over.
 

smackababy

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That's not the type of person he is.

The runner should have just ran him over.

It's not? And you know this because he didn't do what he was fined for right? Now, he might have not intentionally gotten into that position, but he surely waited until the last minute to get out of the way. Regardless, his actions impacted the play on the field. He needs to be punished for that and an a clear "this will not be tolerated by anyone on the sidelines" needs to be sent out by the NFL.
 

RPD

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It's not? And you know this because he didn't do what he was fined for right? Now, he might have not intentionally gotten into that position, but he surely waited until the last minute to get out of the way. Regardless, his actions impacted the play on the field. He needs to be punished for that and an a clear "this will not be tolerated by anyone on the sidelines" needs to be sent out by the NFL.

I'm not sure how being fined relates to a persons overall historical character. It's like we are talking about the Pat's filming other people. Guy has a clean record as far as I'm concerned. I'm not arguing what he did or didn't do, but the did he mean to impede the play on purpose or on accident.

By chance you a Ravens fan?
 

smackababy

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I'm not sure how being fined relates to a persons overall historical character. It's like we are talking about the Pat's filming other people. Guy has a clean record as far as I'm concerned. I'm not arguing what he did or didn't do, but the did he mean to impede the play on purpose or on accident.

By chance you a Ravens fan?

Not a Ravens fan at all, and less of a Ray Lewis fan (I feel the entire murder situation ended in a farce, and caused me to like the Ravens even less).

The fact is, he impeded the play. The NFL can't allow that. $100,000 is not a ton of money, and if it changes the outcome of a much bigger game, would it be worth it? If this was the Superbowl and that play caused the Ravens to lose, was it worth $100k? I think every coach and player would say yes.

It is likely he got into that position without intent to disrupt the play, however, he was clearly looking back and chose to move at the very last second. He did impact the play, and that is why he should be punished a lot more severely. Not because he is a bad guy, or he had ill intent, but because the NFL needs to establish a very hard line about anyone, especially a coach, doing anything that could impact the game like what happened.
 

RPD

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Not a Ravens fan at all, and less of a Ray Lewis fan (I feel the entire murder situation ended in a farce, and caused me to like the Ravens even less).

The fact is, he impeded the play. The NFL can't allow that. $100,000 is not a ton of money, and if it changes the outcome of a much bigger game, would it be worth it? If this was the Superbowl and that play caused the Ravens to lose, was it worth $100k? I think every coach and player would say yes.

It is likely he got into that position without intent to disrupt the play, however, he was clearly looking back and chose to move at the very last second. He did impact the play, and that is why he should be punished a lot more severely. Not because he is a bad guy, or he had ill intent, but because the NFL needs to establish a very hard line about anyone, especially a coach, doing anything that could impact the game like what happened.

I can't seem to find the article anymore, but from NFL.com, http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...lin-fined-100000-for-actions-in-steelers-loss

"Any time a player or a coach from the sideline is in this white area, that's a 15-yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct," Blandino said." "If they interfere with the play, it could be what's called a 'palpably unfair act.'"
The other article expanded on the palpably unfair act, that under that ruling the ref's could go as far as giving a touch down to the other team.
 

smackababy

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I can't seem to find the article anymore, but from NFL.com, http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...lin-fined-100000-for-actions-in-steelers-loss


The other article expanded on the palpably unfair act, that under that ruling the ref's could go as far as giving a touch down to the other team.

Yes, but every official I've seen talk about that ruling is almost always against it. They dislike having such an outcome over the game, and only do want to resort in clear situations (such as the crowd rushing the field to stop the player or something). It should have been a penalty, at the least, but it wasn't.
 

akugami

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You lose to Tampa Bay, at home?

You no longer exist to me.

That's what I said...still bitter about 2002.

$100k fine for Tomlin and supposedly it could even result in a lost/modified draft pick.

The fine I get, but a draft pick seems going too far especially considering how relatively massive the fine is.

He's not suppose to be on the field. End of discussion. It's not like it's between plays and he's flagging down the ref for an explanation or some kind of discussion. When a play is happening, get the hell off the field. This is for player (and other team personnel) safety as well as preserving the field of play.

Docking the draft pick was more of a threat to let other coaching staffs know this should not be happening. If someone shows a history of this, you can guarantee there will be lost draft picks.

Youtube link here

Color me surprised that you don't agree... Don't hate Brady 'cuz he's pretty.

I have to say though, Peyton is one of the best regular seasons QB, right up until he chokes.

How many SB's has Brady won since he got caught cheating? How many? I can't hear you. How many?

Brady is a good QB but best? Please.
 

SSSnail

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LOL! Spy gate, because everyone can get to the super bowl easily and lose to an incredibly lucky creep face. Happens all the time... Wait, it did happen more than once. :awe:

Brady is the QB that makes others around him better.

Psssh there retarded one, everybody &#8221; cheated&#8221; with the spy shit. Everybody &#8221;scout&#8221; their rivals, one way or another. You won't admit it though, because you're ignorant, and dishonest.

So after the other Manning face choke in January, we'll see.


Oh yeah, I'll join in the other discussion too - Tomlin knew exactly what he was doing.
 
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