Is this how Clinton wants to be remembered?

[Dari]

It was roughly four years ago when a heated conversation between the past President (Bush senior), current President (Clinton), and future President (George W. Bush) exploded into the national media. It all started when the Presidential campaign was heating up (I believe in July). George W. Bush rightly criticized Bill Clinton (not sure what it was). Seeing that he was a second-term lame-duck President, I expected Clinton to stay above the attack and continue about his business as President. But, mistakenly, he attacked George W. Bush. That brought an attack from Bush senior. When Clinton refused to let the conversation die, Bush senior made a very powerful, but implicit, threat: "I'll deal with you when you get out of office." From that moment on, Clinton hasn't said anything negative about either Bush, father and son. Not only that, but he set up headquarter in New York as opposed to his native Arkansas. Clinton rarely heads to the state he governed for years.

Whether or not he patched things up with the Bushes has not entered the public domain, but one thing is certain, Bill Clinton stood down in a very public and embarrasing manner. Add to the fact that his own Vice President (wrongly) didn't respect him enough to ask for his advice during the Presidential campaign and one has to wonder how fractured the Democratic Party really is?

 

[SViscusi]

I would wager 99.9% of americans don't remember, or don't care.

 

[Bowfinger]

Waaa waaa waaa. You guys should thank FDR for the 22nd Amendment, or Clinton would still be President.

 

[Spencer278]

Originally posted by: Dari
It was roughly four years ago when a heated conversation between the past President (Bush senior), current President (Clinton), and future President (George W. Bush) exploded into the national media. It all started when the Presidential campaign was heating up (I believe in July). George W. Bush rightly criticized Bill Clinton (not sure what it was). Seeing that he was a second-term lame-duck President, I expected Clinton to stay above the attack and continue about his business as President. But, mistakenly, he attacked George W. Bush. That brought an attack from Bush senior. When Clinton refused to let the conversation die, Bush senior made a very powerful, but implicit, threat: "I'll deal with you when you get out of office." From that moment on, Clinton hasn't said anything negative about either Bush, father and son. Not only that, but he set up headquarter in New York as opposed to his native Arkansas. Clinton rarely heads to the state he governed for years.

Whether or not he patched things up with the Bushes has not entered the public domain, but one thing is certain, Bill Clinton stood down in a very public and embarrasing manner. Add to the fact that his own Vice President (wrongly) didn't respect him enough to ask for his advice during the Presidential campaign and one has to wonder how fractured the Democratic Party really is?

Bush won get over clinton.

 

[tnitsuj]

I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Are you trying to say thier is some kind of personal vendeta between Clinton and the Bush family??

 

[EagleKeeper]

Most ex Presidents have stayed to the policy of not attacking the current sitting President or other Exs.

Once one has sat in the chair and seen what problems can happen, a bond of sympathy and understanding develops.
Attacking does not accomplish anything but to degrade your own position.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Most ex Presidents have stayed to the policy of not attacking the current sitting President or other Exs.

Once one has sat in the chair and seen what problems can happen, a bond of sympathy and understanding develops.
Attacking does not accomplish anything but to degrade your own position.

Then why does Carter continue to do it?

BTW, what is the policy with two-term sitting ducks?

 

[heartsurgeon]

Clinton hasn't said anything negative about either Bush, father and son

What planet do you live on? I covered this before and provided so many links about Clinton bashing Bush, that my fingers went numb.

"I'll deal with you when you get out of office."

Please provide a link to substantiate this "quote"

he set up headquarter in New York as opposed to his native Arkansas

He's building a frikkin LIBRARY in Arkansas...

has not entered the public domain

Whhhhaaaat?

i don't care if your a liberal or a conservative (i can't really tell from you post), what the heck is the point of this post?

 

[Moonbeam]

Pull the tinfoil hat, Dari, when you're counting your polyps. It's scratchy on the cheeks and bad for your disposition.

 

[josphII]

Originally posted by: Dari
It was roughly four years ago when a heated conversation between the past President (Bush senior), current President (Clinton), and future President (George W. Bush) exploded into the national media. It all started when the Presidential campaign was heating up (I believe in July). George W. Bush rightly criticized Bill Clinton (not sure what it was). Seeing that he was a second-term lame-duck President, I expected Clinton to stay above the attack and continue about his business as President. But, mistakenly, he attacked George W. Bush. That brought an attack from Bush senior. When Clinton refused to let the conversation die, Bush senior made a very powerful, but implicit, threat: "I'll deal with you when you get out of office." From that moment on, Clinton hasn't said anything negative about either Bush, father and son. Not only that, but he set up headquarter in New York as opposed to his native Arkansas. Clinton rarely heads to the state he governed for years.

Whether or not he patched things up with the Bushes has not entered the public domain, but one thing is certain, Bill Clinton stood down in a very public and embarrasing manner. Add to the fact that his own Vice President (wrongly) didn't respect him enough to ask for his advice during the Presidential campaign and one has to wonder how fractured the Democratic Party really is?

well clintons "wife" lives in new york and i think he is disbarred (sp?) in arkansas, so where else should he live? plus new york is a libral cesspool, perfect for clinton.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Most ex Presidents have stayed to the policy of not attacking the current sitting President or other Exs.

Once one has sat in the chair and seen what problems can happen, a bond of sympathy and understanding develops.
Attacking does not accomplish anything but to degrade your own position.

Then why does Carter continue to do it?

BTW, what is the policy with two-term sitting ducks?

Note that I said most.

What policy are you talking about regarding two-term sitting ducks?

 

[josphII]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Waaa waaa waaa. You guys should thank FDR for the 22nd Amendment, or Clinton would still be President.

the fact that the country voted a very conservitive republican in office was a glaring signal that the american people wanted nothing more to do with the clinton administration

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: josphII

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Waaa waaa waaa. You guys should thank FDR for the 22nd Amendment, or Clinton would still be President.

the fact that the country voted a very conservitive republican in office was a glaring signal that the american people wanted nothing more to do with the clinton administration

Baloney. More Americans voted for Gore than for Bush, and Gore was a weak candidate.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: josphII

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Waaa waaa waaa. You guys should thank FDR for the 22nd Amendment, or Clinton would still be President.

the fact that the country voted a very conservitive republican in office was a glaring signal that the american people wanted nothing more to do with the clinton administration

But they didn't vote a very conservative President in, they voted in Bush (and he didn't even get the popular vote)

 

[DealMonkey]

George W. Bush rightly criticized Bill Clinton (not sure what it was).

That right there sums up the majority of your posts around here, Dari. Even though you have no idea of the specifics, the background or the long-term effects, as long as G.W. did it, it's all good in your book.

Beyond that, about the only point to this post is your alleged story that the almighty Bush family somehow cowed Clinton into submission during the run-up to the 2000 elections thereby fracturing the democratic party and throwing them into disarray for the next 3-4 years. Is that the gist of your theory?

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

Clinton hasn't said anything negative about either Bush, father and son

What planet do you live on? I covered this before and provided so many links about Clinton bashing Bush, that my fingers went numb.

I'm not sure which Clinton you're talking about, but I'm referring to the former President. If he has attacked Bush, then I'd like to hear about because it's news to me.

"I'll deal with you when you get out of office."

Please provide a link to substantiate this "quote"

This was four years ago. And I didn't read it on the internet. It was in the papers (New York Daily News)

he set up headquarter in New York as opposed to his native Arkansas

He's building a frikkin LIBRARY in Arkansas...

All Presidents build the libraries in their native state. But Clinton runs his business from NYC

has not entered the public domain

Whhhhaaaat?

i don't care if your a liberal or a conservative (i can't really tell from you post), what the heck is the point of this post?

The point is that Clinton made two mistakes. The first was he attacked a Presidential candidate even though he was a two-term president on his way out. Second, he stood down in a very public manner. Third, his own vice president criticized his attacks and wanted to have nothing to do with Clinton as far as his Presidential campaign was concerned

BTW, I could be wrong on the dates. Perhaps this three-way conversation took place in October.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

Clinton hasn't said anything negative about either Bush, father and son

What planet do you live on? I covered this before and provided so many links about Clinton bashing Bush, that my fingers went numb.

I'm not sure which Clinton you're talking about, but I'm referring to the former President. If he has attacked Bush, then I'd like to hear about because it's news to me.

"I'll deal with you when you get out of office."

Please provide a link to substantiate this "quote"

This was four years ago. And I didn't read it on the internet. It was in the papers (New York Daily News)

he set up headquarter in New York as opposed to his native Arkansas

He's building a frikkin LIBRARY in Arkansas...

All Presidents build the libraries in their native state. But Clinton runs his business from NYC

has not entered the public domain

Whhhhaaaat?

i don't care if your a liberal or a conservative (i can't really tell from you post), what the heck is the point of this post?

The point is that Clinton made two mistakes. The first was he attacked a Presidential candidate even though he was a two-term president on his way out. Second, he stood down in a very public manner. Third, his own vice president criticized his attacks and wanted to have nothing to do with Clinton as far as his Presidential campaign was concerned

BTW, I could be wrong on the dates. Perhaps this three-way conversation took place in October.

Is this all according to your Mentor/Sugar Daddy?

 

[glugglug]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
But they didn't vote a very conservative President in, they voted in Bush (and he didn't even get the popular vote)

Not true, unless by "they" you mean the supreme court.

 

[Dari]

Is this all according to your Mentor/Sugar Daddy?

From one parasite (Gaard) to another (Red Dawn), the ad hominems continue. Seems like you have nothing useful to add so you decide to lower the conversation down one notch. But I won't lower myself to your level.

 

[Moonbeam]

One of the things about fear is that it really gets off on power. The notion that Bush has power can even be sexually exciting.

 

[heartsurgeon]

If he has attacked Bush, then I'd like to hear about because it's news to me.

go to google and search "President Clinton criticizes Bush", plenty of examples spew out.

This was four years ago. And I didn't read it on the internet. It was in the papers (New York Daily News)

No excuses allowed! I googled the "quote" and nothing came up..if this is factual..it would be most unlikely not to appear SOMEWHERE on the internet, heck the New York Daily News has an online archive you can search..unless you can substantiate the quote, i am disinclined to believe it is real.

The point is that Clinton made two mistakes

HAHAH, I don't know what the exact number is, but i know it's not two!

Clinton runs his business from NYC

That's where the MONEY IS!!!!!

what was the point of your post again, i forgot...

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

George W. Bush rightly criticized Bill Clinton (not sure what it was).

That right there sums up the majority of your posts around here, Dari. Even though you have no idea of the specifics, the background or the long-term effects, as long as G.W. did it, it's all good in your book.

Beyond that, about the only point to this post is your alleged story that the almighty Bush family somehow cowed Clinton into submission during the run-up to the 2000 elections thereby fracturing the democratic party and throwing them into disarray for the next 3-4 years. Is that the gist of your theory?

You noticed too?

Dari doesn't know what the criticism was, but he knows that the criticism was dead-on.

 

[tallest1]

You mean, you mean.... Clinton stood up to ....Bush? OMGomgomg unamerican! unpatriotic! Front page news!

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Dari

Is this all according to your Mentor/Sugar Daddy?

From one parasite (Gaard) to another (Red Dawn), the ad hominems continue. Seems like you have nothing useful to add so you decide to lower the conversation down one notch. But I won't lower myself to your level.

Whoops, calling me an Gaard Parasites is an Ad Hom in itself. Glad you could elevate yourself to our level.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Dari

Is this all according to your Mentor/Sugar Daddy?

From one parasite (Gaard) to another (Red Dawn), the ad hominems continue. Seems like you have nothing useful to add so you decide to lower the conversation down one notch. But I won't lower myself to your level.

Want me to quote a few of your last remarks to me. Makes Red look like a kindergarten teacher by comparisonm no?