Is this generation soft?

Mai72

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I'm generalizing a bit, but we've gone from storming Normady in WW2 to crying rooms on college campuses. We've gone from hard work to taking time off because I feel sad and depressed.

Wake up buttercup!

PS- To all the youngens who value hard work and don't complain I salute and bow in your presence.
 

Paladin3

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Many of us are "soft" because we've never experienced truly hard times. I would call that a blessing overall, but a curse if you allow yourself to become complacent and ill-prepared should hard times come a-knocking.

Edit: IronWing has a good point. It's a slap in the face to those who fought and died to give us this good life if our resulting softness keeps us from being ready to defend it.
 
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SKORPI0

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Go to those war torn countries and ask the U.S. soldiers fighting for the people who are not capable of defending themselves.
The freedom we (N.American in particular) enjoy today is the result of the sacrifices our forebears had endure and fight back to gain it.

As usual, a retarded question posted by the OP. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 

highland145

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It's not so retarded. People are whiny bitches anymore, and it's institutionally indulged. We can still storm beaches if we have to, but the whining over every minor slight and irregularity's got to go.
It won't until the next great depression when people are more concerned about food than the kardashians.
 
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Zanovar

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Well yeah i understand it.just dont drip your snot from your nose in my pint when explaining it all.just sayin.
 

WHAMPOM

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I'm generalizing a bit, but we've gone from storming Normady in WW2 to crying rooms on college campuses. We've gone from hard work to taking time off because I feel sad and depressed.

Wake up buttercup!

PS- To all the youngens who value hard work and don't complain I salute and bow in your presence.
As B.C. Greek scribes wrote as soon as they invented writing, elders complaining "the younger generation is too soft!"
 

Exterous

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As B.C. Greek scribes wrote as soon as they invented writing, elders complaining "the younger generation is too soft!"

Yes and we can see how wrong they were when we gaze apon the might of today's Greek Empire. Just because it's been said before that doesn't preclude it from being true from time to time
 
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madoka

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The guys who stormed Normandy did it so we could live in the world we have today. The least you could do is enjoy it.

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shortylickens

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Well, they were raised by parents who still think they are the toughest people ever to live, so, yeah fuck those parents.
 

lxskllr

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Well, they were raised by parents who still think they are the toughest people ever to live, so, yeah fuck those parents.
The WWII generation's almost gone. There's a couple generations between them and the current kids.
 

bbhaag

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Wasn't it the greatest generation who raised the boomers? They came back from the war and gave their kids everything never questioning whether it was the right choice or not. Then the boomers raised genx then genx raised millennials.
 

shortylickens

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The WWII generation's almost gone. There's a couple generations between them and the current kids.

No I meant the Boomers.
The Boomers honestly think they are the hardest workers and the smartest parents and everything wonderful is because of them and they didnt do ANYTHING wrong in their whole lives.
 
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pcgeek11

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It's not so retarded. People are whiny bitches anymore, and it's institutionally indulged. We can still storm beaches if we have to, but the whining over every minor slight and irregularity's got to go.

This times a million or two.
 

Kaido

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I'm not sure if more people are 'soft' now, or if whiners just have greater access to social media to get their voice out there.

On a tangent, I don't particularly care for the neutering of our country's traditions. No more Pledge of Allegiance in school. Holiday parties instead of Christmas parties. "Storybook character day" instead of Halloween. Yes, I understand we are a diverse melting pot, but if I were to move to say, Israel, I wouldn't go in & demand that they change their traditions to meet my expectations. I feel like a lot of our admittedly young culture (under 250 years) is disappearing. Even weekends aren't sacred anymore due to increased work demands.

Looping back, I do feel like a lot of the younger generation don't feel particularly "American" or have much sense of national pride. Just because the current political climate is divisive & the economy isn't perfect doesn't mean you can't be proud to be an American.

Bah, what I am saying. Get off my lawn :D
 
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Kaido

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Many of us are "soft" because we've never experienced truly hard times. I would call that a blessing overall, but a curse if you allow yourself to become complacent and ill-prepared should hard times come a-knocking.

Edit: IronWing has a good point. It's a slap in the face to those who fought and died to give us this good life if our resulting softness keeps us from being ready to defend it.

Related - I don't think that everyone is meant to be "hard". The human psyche is a highly variable thing. It's been really difficult seeing a couple of my friends who came back from Iraq just being completely broken as human beings. One of my buddies is probably going to have PTSD for life. He works night shift so he gets more quiet time & flinches at everything, and he was a hardcore, super buff dude. And I feel guilty at times because I've never been in a wartime situation where I've been shot at or had to shoot anyone...I work in a relatively cushy job fixing computers indoors because there were people before me who were willing to do those jobs, for which I am very grateful.

I'm also curious as to how the kids who fought in WWII identify. Do they see themselves as tough, or do they seem themselves as kids who were called to do extraordinarily difficult things to protect their country, homes, and family? It kind of seems like the Internet armchair enthusiasts like to apply the tough guy label who were put into situations where they had to fight & kill people without really wanting to be in those situations. I bet most of them were scared kids who got pretty messed up after going through everything they had to in the war. Most tough guys seem to like hanging around bars and telling other guys stories of their toughness to impress them. I dunno. War is awful.

I do think we have a fair amount of whinyness going on these days. Like we've had it so good for so long that people are getting really nitpicky about what they choose to complain about publicy.
 

edcoolio

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People are soft because, thankfully, these are soft times for the bulk of the population in America.

If you are an American, there is such a huge advantage that it does not even occur to most people. They they live in a country with only 4.5% of world population and yet account for 25% of world GDP. Guns with extra butter.

The question doesn't make much sense because to be "soft" during soft times is human nature. The real question is:

Do these very same "soft" people have it in them to fight if deprived of electricity, clean water, food, freedom, and safety for their families? Or would they capitulate to an outside power in exchange for minimal material comforts and reduced freedoms?
 

lxskllr

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I'm also curious as to how the kids who fought in WWII identify. Do they see themselves as tough, or do they seem themselves as kids who were called to do extraordinarily difficult things to protect their country, homes, and family? It kind of seems like the Internet armchair enthusiasts like to apply the tough guy label who were put into situations where they had to fight & kill people without really wanting to be in those situations. I bet most of them were scared kids who got pretty messed up after going through everything they had to in the war. Most tough guys seem to like hanging around bars and telling other guys stories of their toughness to impress them. I dunno. War is awful.

I do think we have a fair amount of whinyness going on these days. Like we've had it so good for so long that people are getting really nitpicky about what they choose to complain about publicy.
We were coming out of a depression, so that reinforced the notion of "doing what you gotta do" when it came time for war. They weren't all badasses, but they did the job cause it had to be done. I think people in general were tougher and more resilent back then. There was also a stronger notion of "common cause". I believe kids today would shape up if forced to(military is good for that), but they'd be starting from a toughness deficit.
 
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Well, the entire point of liberals is that they do not like to hear the opinions of others. So instead of arguing why said opinion is not viable or not reasonable, they would rather shut down the event and prevent the opinion from being spoken.

Yes, I would call that soft, the fact that you can't even take an opposing opinion.