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Is this believable story by Donna Brazile?

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I find it interesting that some people claim to be against election tampering, when talking about Trump. Believe anything that comes out as evidence. Yet do not believe this at all, or other things. Elizabeth Warren also stated it was slanted towards Hillary. Its almost as if the people on the left don't really give a shit about the fairness of elections, they only pretend to when its against Trump. Same people being hypocritical, not very surprising actually. Then they want to be taken seriously. Not a chance. They don't actually care about the sanctity of the election process.

The left and right fringe operate in the same manner. Believe anything no matter how far fetch when its against their enemy, yet not when its against their own.
 
JimKiler said:
I am sure this is not the first time something like this has happened to the DNC or RNC. I bet there are lot more infighting stories like this on both sides of the isle. What i don't get is why the DNC agreed to such terms. They could have easily said no. The articles make it seem like the DNC had no choice to get out of debt. But if the DNC did not nominate Hilary she would never win. In other words Hilary needed the DNC as much as the DNC needed her money.
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Clearly Hillary didn't need the DNC. Can you name one thing the DNC did for the Clinton campaign?

Unfortunately Obama didn't do much to help the DNC and pretty much left it in ruins. One of the most important things Obama could have left the DNC was his days analytics but from what I've read it wasn't maintained over the years and was useless when the 2016 election came around.

I think most blame Debbie and I must admit I don't see any fault with their thinking.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the DNC is incompetent and I don't see that changing anytime soon. Hell, a competent DNC probably would have never allowed Bernie to run as a Democrat in the first place.
 
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Ackmed said:
I find it interesting that some people claim to be against election tampering, when talking about Trump. Believe anything that comes out as evidence. Yet do not believe this at all, or other things. Elizabeth Warren also stated it was slanted towards Hillary. Its almost as if the people on the left don't really give a shit about the fairness of elections, they only pretend to when its against Trump. Same people being hypocritical, not very surprising actually. Then they want to be taken seriously. Not a chance. They don't actually care about the sanctity of the election process.

The left and right fringe operate in the same manner. Believe anything no matter how far fetch when its against their enemy, yet not when its against their own.
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Please. Both parties have the right to their own structure & funding methods. If it was slanted to Hillary then that's rightly the concern of Democrats, not the concern trolls. You have not shown any overt act that disadvantaged Sanders.

The allegation is not that Trump tampered with the election process but rather that the Russians obviously did on his behalf through state & social media. Why would they do that? Do you really think they want to MAGA? How does it feel standing with them in support of Trump, or is that something you just didn't notice?
 
Jhhnn said:
Please. Both parties have the right to their own structure & funding methods. If it was slanted to Hillary then that's rightly the concern of Democrats, not the concern trolls. You have not shown any overt act that disadvantaged Sanders.

The allegation is not that Trump tampered with the election process but rather that the Russians obviously did on his behalf through state & social media. Why would they do that? Do you really think they want to MAGA? How does it feel standing with them in support of Trump, or is that something you just didn't notice?
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So more and more reason to believe the stories about briberies, shady money movements, and corruption surrounding Clinton and the DNC but we are still stuck on Trump and the Russian collusion unicorn. Sounds like Clinton and the DNC got in a financial pickle and turned to Russia for help, and when it was time for Russia to collect on all the debts, I bet Clinton and the DNC gave them the middle finger. Did Russia "break Clinton's election knee" for nonpayment?
 
brandonbull said:
So more and more reason to believe the stories about briberies, shady money movements, and corruption surrounding Clinton and the DNC but we are still stuck on Trump and the Russian collusion unicorn. Sounds like Clinton and the DNC got in a financial pickle and turned to Russia for help, and when it was time for Russia to collect on all the debts, I bet Clinton and the DNC gave them the middle finger. Did Russia "break Clinton's election knee" for nonpayment?
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Super-duper conspiracy theory there. There doesn't have to be any collusion at all for what I offered to be true. The Russians were all in for Trump. Do you think they really want to MAGA? Or have the just exploited the groundwork laid by decades of right wing propagandists to spread more FUD among us?
 
brandonbull said:
Well aw shucks, I guess it's ok then.
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I really don't know why i'm posting in a thread like this. Everyone should be proud of Hillary Clinton, she's a great American and we need to write her a letter to run again in 2020. She is a inspiration to us all with her moral and ethical approach to politics on the world stage. We should also be proud of the job the DNC and their officials have done over the last 8 years to make the Democratic Party the resounding success it is in all the 50 states. Let's wish them continued success and let's all pray they continue on the path they've taken to take whatever they can from their constituents. Rah Rah Democrats!
 
brandonbull said:
So more and more reason to believe the stories about briberies, shady money movements, and corruption surrounding Clinton and the DNC but we are still stuck on Trump and the Russian collusion unicorn. Sounds like Clinton and the DNC got in a financial pickle and turned to Russia for help, and when it was time for Russia to collect on all the debts, I bet Clinton and the DNC gave them the middle finger. Did Russia "break Clinton's election knee" for nonpayment?
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Lol!!

Looks like we have a new water boy!
 
imported_tajmahal said:
I really don't know why i'm posting in a thread like this. Everyone should be proud of Hillary Clinton, she's a great American and we need to write her a letter to run again in 2020. She is a inspiration to us all with her moral and ethical approach to politics on the world stage. We should also be proud of the job the DNC and their officials have done over the last 8 years to make the Democratic Party the resounding success it is in all the 50 states. Let's wish them continued success and let's all pray they continue on the path they've taken to take whatever they can from their constituents. Rah Rah Democrats!
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Your concerns have been given due consideration. We all know you're just trying to help the poor misguided Democrats see the light, the glorious light emanating from your glorious leader.
 
Hayabusa Rider said:
Being a non partisan kind of guy I'm going with the GOP being total crap.

Now if there is an active campaign on the part of any party to limit choices or to sabotage candidates I'm not a fan either. Not saying any of this is true, but having selected candidates constitutes a kratocracy, not a democracy.

I'm thinking we need more than finance reform, something far deeper and wide ranging.
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kratocracy (plural kratocracies)

  1. A government established by seizure utilizing force or deceit with rule maintained by strength.[1][2][3] edit][/paste:font]
Pretty sure that's not the word you were looking for. Having selected candidates constitutes a Republic, which is what we have had all along.

GOP is going into a bloodbath next year, it will be awful for them, then even worse 2 years later when Warren or Sanders gets elected. The few of them with character have already broken with Trump.
 
ivwshane said:
Hell, a complement DNC probably would have never allowed Bernie to run as a Democrat in the first place.
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Clearly it's reaching out to progressives that is the problem. Not the scum sucking wall street cronies who have their tendrils into you.
 
Jaskalas said:
Clearly it's reaching out to progressives that is the problem. Not the scum sucking wall street cronies who have their tendrils into you.
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And the Repubs. don't have themselves under corporate thumbs, is that right? Looked at Trump's cabinet lately?
 
Jaskalas said:
Clearly it's reaching out to progressives that is the problem. Not the scum sucking wall street cronies who have their tendrils into you.
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You'll have to point out the legislation the "fake" Democrats have passed or tried to pass that show them to be wall street cronies. I can point to the opposite of course.

Oddly, I've never heard you complain about trump and the Republicans and their ties to wall street. I'm sure you just had your blinders on right?
 
ivwshane said:
Clearly Hillary didn't need the DNC. Can you name one thing the DNC did for the Clinton campaign?

Unfortunately Obama didn't do much to help the DNC and pretty much left it in ruins. One of the most important things Obama could have left the DNC was his days analytics but from what I've read it wasn't maintained over the years and was useless when the 2016 election came around.

I think most blame Debbie and I must admit I don't see any fault with their thinking.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the DNC is incompetent and I don't see that changing anytime soon. Hell, a competent DNC probably would have never allowed Bernie to run as a Democrat in the first place.
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If Hilary did not need the DNC you really think she had a shot to win as an independent? I do not think she could have won as an independent.
 
What immediately debunks the entire narrative of this story and makes Donna Brazile a liar (or utterly incompetent) is this little story in published in 2015 to the entire world in Politico fully describing the fundraising agreement the Clinton Campaign made with the DNC at the time it was made. While Donna Brazile tries desperately to make the arrangement a super secret conspiracy no one knew about. Meanwhile, it was apparently just her. Oops...

https://www.politico.com/story/2015...ary-clinton-fundraising-agreement-2016-121813
 
Amused said:
What immediately debunks the entire narrative of this story and makes Donna Brazile a liar (or utterly incompetent) is this little story in published in 2015 to the entire world in Politico fully describing the fundraising agreement the Clinton Campaign made with the DNC at the time it was made. While Donna Brazile tries desperately to make the arrangement a super secret conspiracy no one knew about. Meanwhile, it was apparently just her. Oops...

https://www.politico.com/story/2015...ary-clinton-fundraising-agreement-2016-121813
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I thought this was interesting:

"The DNC says it’s pursuing similar agreements with the other Democratic primary campaigns, but so far, those haven’t materialized."
 
Victorian Gray said:
I thought this was interesting:

"The DNC says it’s pursuing similar agreements with the other Democratic primary campaigns, but so far, those haven’t materialized."
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Exactly. In fact, Bernie was offered the same and turned it down. This story is pretty silly on it's face and Brazile is only going to come out of it looking like a liar and a fool.

In fact, the fact checkers are beginning to have a field day with her accounts in the book. It's falling apart like a sand castle at high tide.
 
Amused said:
Exactly. In fact, Bernie was offered the same and turned it down. This story is pretty silly on it's face and Brazile is only going to come out of it looking like a liar and a fool.

In fact, the fact checkers are beginning to have a field day with her accounts in the book. It's falling apart like a sand castle at high tide.
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But it will be quoted for years by brandonbullshit and tajbot.
 
bryanW1995 said:
kratocracy (plural kratocracies)

  1. A government established by seizure utilizing force or deceit with rule maintained by strength.[1][2][3] edit][/paste:font]
Pretty sure that's not the word you were looking for. Having selected candidates constitutes a Republic, which is what we have had all along.

GOP is going into a bloodbath next year, it will be awful for them, then even worse 2 years later when Warren or Sanders gets elected. The few of them with character have already broken with Trump.
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I'll stand by my statement. The powerful deciding who will hold the Office, deceiving the voter that they are making the choice for who will be put forward. In other nations it might be known as a "puppet regime". No thank you.

Bloodbath? Dems are far more exposed than Republicans in 2018. https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_Congress_elections,_2018

Democrats have had a real problem which snatches defeat out of the jaws of victory, hubris. They can and will lose if they do not offer more than "look at Trump".
 
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