Is this an example of texture shimmering?

[LittleNemoNES]

I'm using catalst 6.3 (same thing happens with 6.4) and tried playing the game with CAT AI off, standard, and advanced. I have mipmaps set to max. AF set to HQ App controlled.

16xAF in game

I wouldn't have thought I'd see this with my pricey card:

FEAR pic

 

[Matt2]

I can only see shimmering when in game and I'm moving. For example, when I ahd my 7800GT SLI, the floor seemed to "crawl".

 

[LittleNemoNES]

Originally posted by: Matt2
I can only see shimmering when in game and I'm moving. For example, when I ahd my 7800GT SLI, the floor seemed to "crawl".

its only worse when there's movement.

I dont' want to start a flame war...but my 7800 GT CO showed far less of this effect (HQ in the drivers)

Frame rates are something altogether differenct, though

 

[OMoT]

Looks almost like bulletholes. I cant say for sure though, I dont have the game.

 

[Matt2]

Well, I'd jump into fear and take a look with my XTX, but it doesnt effin work.

 

[LittleNemoNES]

Originally posted by: OMoT
Looks almost like bulletholes. I cant say for sure though, I dont have the game.

lol not those. They ARE bullet holes.

Look @ the 2nd vertical half of the pic. The wall looks extremely grainy. Moves around a lot when I move...

 

[dagabs]

What happens if you apply AA?

 

[LittleNemoNES]

Originally posted by: dagabs
What happens if you apply AA?

same thing. no matter if I use MSAA or SSAA

Weird, huh?

 

[xtknight]

What texture filtering? Trilinear? Are you using compressed textures? FEAR's textures to tend to look odd. It does not look like a mipmap transition to me, just the peculiarity of FEAR. Why not start up 3D Analyze and color the mip levels to see what's happening?

 

[Soccerman06]

Anyone else see a face on the wall, above the bullet hole in the bracket?

 

[Soccerman06]

doubly

 

[LittleNemoNES]

Originally posted by: xtknight
What texture filtering? Trilinear? Are you using compressed textures? FEAR's textures to tend to look odd. It does not look like a mipmap transition to me, just the peculiarity of FEAR. Why not start up 3D Analyze and color the mip levels to see what's happening?

You mean this:

mip map coloring?

Never used the program before... guess this is what you mean

BTW xtknight, I put in an order for a 20WMGX2 so I'll update your thread when it comes in!
Thanks for your great LCD guide

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: gersson
You mean this:

mip map coloring?

Never used the program before... guess this is what you mean

Yeah, that's it. Very odd that the nearest wall is green. You'd think it would be the sharpest of the transitions (red) [judging from the picture at the bottom of this page: http://www.tomshardware.com/2004/06/03/ati/page5.html]. It looks like it is a mipmap transition issue (that's why FEAR looks odd to me).

BTW xtknight, I put in an order for a 20WMGX2 so I'll update your thread when it comes in!
Thanks for your great LCD guide

Glad you found it of help. I look forward to the review.

 

[LittleNemoNES]

Thanks, man.

funny you could make something of that pic cos I sure couldn't

XD

what's a likely solution?



BTW, newegg has the 20wmgx2... kinda funny that I had such a hard time looking for one.
Ended up getting it from page computers 3 day shipping $665. Newegg has 2 day shipping for $663

doh!

 

[xtknight]

Solutions:

1. Modify FEAR engine source code :Q
2. Introduce 'optimizations' into drivers

But there might be some way to change the FEAR config file to make the nearest texture the sharpest one. I don't know if this was by design, or if it is a bug. I've just never seen mipmaps like that before (though admittedly I don't look at them all day either). Perhaps they conluded that gave the best quality. Wow, I might even be able to afford the 20WMGX2 (by next year?). That thing used to be $800. The silver bezel one is still $760. They must be using some high quality silver paint...

 

[LittleNemoNES]

Originally posted by: xtknight
Solutions:

1. Modify FEAR engine source code :Q
2. Introduce 'optimizations' into drivers

But there might be some way to change the FEAR config file to make the nearest texture the sharpest one. I don't know if this was by design, or if it is a bug. I've just never seen mipmaps like that before (though admittedly I don't look at them all day either). Perhaps they conluded that gave the best quality. Wow, I might even be able to afford the 20WMGX2 (by next year?). That thing used to be $800. The silver bezel one is still $760. They must be using some high quality silver paint...

Damn. I doubt Monolith will come up with anything sometime soon...

the silver NEC price is rediculous! It's $150 more than the black and silver one... maybe It was better I went with page computers ;-)