LOL yeah, right. My husbands money!! I'm a stay-at-home mom 
Besides, my husband got his xbox 360 so I deserve this ~
Jen
Besides, my husband got his xbox 360 so I deserve this ~Jen
The RAM would make a massive difference to it as matthias99 says. 512 is the minimum you want for normal use, for photoshop you really want 1gb plus, for hardcore photoshop then 2gb is nice.
If you want a bit more improvement then a Raptor 150 would still help and when you do buy an all new machine you'd be able to move it over to the new computer, but it's not very economical.
If you want a bit more improvement then a Raptor 150 would still help and when you do buy an all new machine you'd be able to move it over to the new computer, but it's not very economical.
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Fair enough, just trying to save you some money
If I was building a new dual core system, I'd be looking at maybe a 4400+ for the processor rather than something higher.
It's still going to be a massive jump compared to what you're using now. I think anything higher than that it paying a lot for what you get.
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Originally posted by: jmiasi
LOL yeah, right. My husbands money!! I'm a stay-at-home mom
Jen
Well his xbox didn't cost almost $3k
My point is that you may be able to get the performance you want for maybe $200, rather than $1500+ for a whole new system.
If you're rolling in money, go nuts, but you'll see MUCH better performance with more RAM in your current system, especially with multiple large images open, and/or multiple applications open.
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Just to get an idea of the differences, I put in a processor close to yours and a 4400+ into the chart here:
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html?modelx=33&model1=235&model2=228&chart=74
It doesn't have a photoshop test that I see, but you can see the kind of differences for other programs and general multitasking.
Check out the differences between the 4400+ and the higher X2s and see if you think it's worth it.
(Even look at the much cheaper 3800+ X2)
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html?modelx=33&model1=235&model2=228&chart=74
It doesn't have a photoshop test that I see, but you can see the kind of differences for other programs and general multitasking.
Check out the differences between the 4400+ and the higher X2s and see if you think it's worth it.
(Even look at the much cheaper 3800+ X2)
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Originally posted by: jmiasi
Well his xbox didn't cost almost $3k
You're right, but I still deserve it haha...
Jen
:thumbsup:
My gf got to buy two rats and a new bed when I got a hometheater that cost a lot more.
I think I got the better deal
I'd just hate to have to keep adding to it over the next couple years. I feel like it's inevitable that we'll need to upgrade everything, right?
Jen
Antec SLK3000B ATX Mid Tower (Black) No PS
Nice, no frills case.
Enermax Liberty ELT400AWT ATX 2.2 400W SLI Power Supply
Quiet, efficent PSU possibly overkill here
Asus A8N5X nForce4 Audio/GB-LAN/USB/PCI-E/SATA/DDR/ATX 64 939
I like ASUS
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ Dual-Core 512K Per Core 90nm (939) (Retail Box-w-Fan)
Very fast CPU.
RAM
In both slots chose the cheapest 2gb option they list, couldn't C&P
Western Digital 150 GB 16 MB Cache SATA 10K Raptor (WD1500ADFD)
One place to save money but if you have it to spend...
ATI (Sapphire) Radeon X700 256MB DDR/PCI-E/TV-Out/DVI (OEM)
Low cost Grpahics card
Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeMusic 7.1 24-Bit Sound Card (Retail Box)
Cheapest XFI, supposed to be gods gift to computer music
The rest is all up to you, but that would be a dream rig, very very fast for Photoshop. Works out around $2,500 including a rush build and the full 3yr onsite techsupport and software.
Nice, no frills case.
Enermax Liberty ELT400AWT ATX 2.2 400W SLI Power Supply
Quiet, efficent PSU possibly overkill here
Asus A8N5X nForce4 Audio/GB-LAN/USB/PCI-E/SATA/DDR/ATX 64 939
I like ASUS
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ Dual-Core 512K Per Core 90nm (939) (Retail Box-w-Fan)
Very fast CPU.
RAM
In both slots chose the cheapest 2gb option they list, couldn't C&P
Western Digital 150 GB 16 MB Cache SATA 10K Raptor (WD1500ADFD)
One place to save money but if you have it to spend...
ATI (Sapphire) Radeon X700 256MB DDR/PCI-E/TV-Out/DVI (OEM)
Low cost Grpahics card
Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeMusic 7.1 24-Bit Sound Card (Retail Box)
Cheapest XFI, supposed to be gods gift to computer music
The rest is all up to you, but that would be a dream rig, very very fast for Photoshop. Works out around $2,500 including a rush build and the full 3yr onsite techsupport and software.
Possibly. I'm sure you'll probably want a whole new system *eventually*.
You could always transfer the RAM to a newer system; it's not like it goes bad.
If you've got the money, and you want a whole new system (I'm sure you do actually deserve it
), go for it. If you don't want to throw down that much cash, try the RAM upgrade first and see if that will take care of you for a while. Worst case is you take the RAM you bought and put it in a new system. That's my take on it, anyway.Unless your current system uses RDRAM, that is, since it doesn't work with any of the newer CPUs. In that case, you're better off building a new system that uses standard DDR RAM, and if you want to keep the system for a long time, you might want to wait for the new Athlon64s that will be using DDR2.
Edit: Dell says the 8200 uses RDRAM. Screw it, just buy a new system.
It will be a business write off and it's my only source of income since all of my work is done on my computer.
How long would I have to wait for the new Athlon64s? I'd like something sooner rather than later since it's really getting to be a major pain in my butt to do my work on our current computer
Jen
How long would I have to wait for the new Athlon64s? I'd like something sooner rather than later since it's really getting to be a major pain in my butt to do my work on our current computer
Jen
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I put together a similar config on Monarch but didn't see an easy way to export my choices to post in this thread.
Pretty much the same thing I did except 6600gt instead of X700 (no particular reason)
Had the raptor and a 400gig WD as a storage drive
CPU was a 4400+ rather than the 4600+
Skipped the X-Fi since I have no idea if they will listen to music on this or what kind of system they have to warrant spending $100+ on a soundcard.
"Edit: Dell says the 8200 uses RDRAM. Screw it, just buy a new system." PERFECT that's my excuse then!!!
Now I just need major help picking out everything that goes in it. I'll have to re-read what everyones wrote and hopefully I can decipher some of it!
Jen
Now I just need major help picking out everything that goes in it. I'll have to re-read what everyones wrote and hopefully I can decipher some of it!
Jen
Monarchcomputers.com
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant...&Category_Code=furiacustomworkstations
I don't know if that's the monarch that everyone refers to, but seems to be right.
The CPU choice was because the OP wants ultra speed for photoshop, and since cache doesn't matter for it and the 4800X2 and 4600X2 run at the same clock...
A WD4000KD as a storage disc would be nice, but it depends on if it's needed.
You don't need a non stock heatsink, if you're not overclocking then it's more than enough, just for reference.
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant...&Category_Code=furiacustomworkstations
I don't know if that's the monarch that everyone refers to, but seems to be right.
The CPU choice was because the OP wants ultra speed for photoshop, and since cache doesn't matter for it and the 4800X2 and 4600X2 run at the same clock...
A WD4000KD as a storage disc would be nice, but it depends on if it's needed.
You don't need a non stock heatsink, if you're not overclocking then it's more than enough, just for reference.
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It's making the chip run faster than it's supposed to, there are good points and bad points but most people don't like doing it on work computers, don't worry about it is the short version.
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It's running parts faster than they are rated.
If you want to just have it work all the time a advertised and don't care about squeezing more performance out of the parts, then don't worry about it.
If you're not comfortable opening your computer and messing around with it like that, I wouldn't recommend it.
With the specs you listed, would I have to worry about overheating? I always see "cooling" things everywhere...
Heat's not really a concern here if you ask me. If you go for the case i listed and buy one of these:
Antec 120mm SmartCool Case Fan (761345-75012-7)
You'd be more than fine.
Antec 120mm SmartCool Case Fan (761345-75012-7)
You'd be more than fine.
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