Is there ONE good reason why marijuana should be illegal?

slash196

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Yet why is it still illegal (not only illegal but villified)? With a president as unpopular as GW, you'd think he'd be ready to do something that the whole country would appreciate.
 

HombrePequeno

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There are too many crotchety old people that think it's the devil or some sort of gateway drug. It's the same reason why prostitution isn't legal, really. It isn't socially accepted so people want to ban it.
 

slash196

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Believe it or not, crotchety old people aren't the only ones whose opinion matters in this country.
 

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Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
There are too many crotchety old people that think it's the devil or some sort of gateway drug. It's the same reason why prostitution isn't legal, really. It isn't socially accepted by old white men in power so people want to ban it.

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HombrePequeno

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Originally posted by: slash196
Believe it or not, crotchety old people aren't the only ones whose opinion matters in this country.

They are the ones that vote and have money so yes they are pretty much the only ones that matter. Why do you think we haven't touched Social Security? Whichever way they want, that's how it is.
 

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This earthly mortal life is a place for work, toil, and suffering. You get high in the next life, and never before. You don't get a high power industrial rat race with people smoking grass and mellowing out.
 

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
This earthly mortal life is a place for work, toil, and suffering. You get high in the next life, and never before. You don't get a high power industrial rat race with people smoking grass and mellowing out.

I'm hoping this was a joke post.
 

1prophet

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Make sure you get it removed from drug testing policies also, after all why should someone get penalized on monday for an accident or mandatory drug testing based on what they smoked on saturday night.
 

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Originally posted by: zendari
Marijuana should be legal i suppose, but its not something I care about much.
Do you know how much is wasted on enforcing that?
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: zendari
Marijuana should be legal i suppose, but its not something I care about much.

It would be a tough call requiring consultation among a number of professional surgeons:

"Do we remove this stick from his ass or due to it's size and wedgedinness just leave it in place?"
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: 1prophet
Make sure you get it removed from drug testing policies also, after all why should someone get penalized on monday for an accident or mandatory drug testing based on what they smoked on saturday night.

We don't do that with alcohol and there is no reason we would with drugs. People are responsible for what they do when it affects the rights of others.
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: zendari
Marijuana should be legal i suppose, but its not something I care about much.
Do you know how much is wasted on enforcing that?

Governments waste money on plenty of things.
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
This earthly mortal life is a place for work, toil, and suffering. You get high in the next life, and never before. You don't get a high power industrial rat race with people smoking grass and mellowing out.

Precisely.

And for the millions of people who suffer chronic pain the only relief offered by the very same people who vilainize pot is addicting narcotic drugs.

Someone please explain to me the logic in THAT line of reasoning.
 

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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
This earthly mortal life is a place for work, toil, and suffering. You get high in the next life, and never before. You don't get a high power industrial rat race with people smoking grass and mellowing out.

Precisely.

Precisely indeed. Moonbeam nails two main sources of opposition at their very foundation.

The machine, whether it be religious, or economic, is in trouble if individual cogs start questioning the personal value of their rotation.
 

1prophet

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: 1prophet
Make sure you get it removed from drug testing policies also, after all why should someone get penalized on monday for an accident or mandatory drug testing based on what they smoked on saturday night.

We don't do that with alcohol and there is no reason we would with drugs. People are responsible for what they do when it affects the rights of others.

Do you know of anyone who failed a blood alcohol test 2 or more days after they had their last drink because I had friends that failed drug tests several days after taking them even though they weren't under the influence during the test and it wasn't affecting their job performance?
 

Rickten

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Originally posted by: 1prophet
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: 1prophet
Make sure you get it removed from drug testing policies also, after all why should someone get penalized on monday for an accident or mandatory drug testing based on what they smoked on saturday night.

We don't do that with alcohol and there is no reason we would with drugs. People are responsible for what they do when it affects the rights of others.

Do you know of anyone who failed a blood alcohol test 2 or more days after they had their last drink because I had friends that failed drug tests several days after taking them even though they weren't under the influence during the test and it wasn't affecting their job performance?



bud stays in your hair for months. If you shave your head they will take samples from eyebrow, armpit, etc.
 

1prophet

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Originally posted by: Rickten
Originally posted by: 1prophet
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: 1prophet
Make sure you get it removed from drug testing policies also, after all why should someone get penalized on monday for an accident or mandatory drug testing based on what they smoked on saturday night.

We don't do that with alcohol and there is no reason we would with drugs. People are responsible for what they do when it affects the rights of others.

Do you know of anyone who failed a blood alcohol test 2 or more days after they had their last drink because I had friends that failed drug tests several days after taking them even though they weren't under the influence during the test and it wasn't affecting their job performance?



bud stays in your hair for months. If you shave your head they will take samples from eyebrow, armpit, etc.

If by bud you mean budweiser beer if not then please disregard:)

Hair testing cannot be used to detect alcohol.

Analysis of hair may provide a much longer ?testing window? for the presence of drugs and drug metabolites, giving a more complete drug-use history that goes back as far as 90 days. Like urine testing, hair testing does not provide evidence of current impairment, only past use of a specific drug. Hair testing cannot be used to detect alcohol.

According to this 6-10 hours for alcohol


Alcohol testing

Commonly Abused Drugs

Depressants
Alcohol Beer, Wine, Liquor Antidote for methanol poisoning Oral Not Scheduled 6-10 hours
Barbiturates Amytal, Nembutal, Seconal, Phenobarbital; Barbs Anesthetic, anticonvulsant, hypnotic, sedative Injected, oral II, III, IV 2-10 days
Benzodiazepines Ativan, Halcion, Librium, Rohypnol, Valium; Roofies, Tranks, Xanax Antianxiety, anticonvulsant, hypnotic, sedative Injected, oral IV 1-6 weeks
Methaqualone Quaalude, Ludes None Oral I 2 weeks
Hair Drug Testing


 

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Originally posted by: slash196
Believe it or not, crotchety old people aren't the only ones whose opinion matters in this country.


Execpt when I become crotchety and old:laugh:
 

Rickten

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Originally posted by: 1prophet
Originally posted by: Rickten
Originally posted by: 1prophet
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: 1prophet
Make sure you get it removed from drug testing policies also, after all why should someone get penalized on monday for an accident or mandatory drug testing based on what they smoked on saturday night.

We don't do that with alcohol and there is no reason we would with drugs. People are responsible for what they do when it affects the rights of others.

Do you know of anyone who failed a blood alcohol test 2 or more days after they had their last drink because I had friends that failed drug tests several days after taking them even though they weren't under the influence during the test and it wasn't affecting their job performance?



bud stays in your hair for months. If you shave your head they will take samples from eyebrow, armpit, etc.

If by bud you mean budweiser beer if not then please disregard:)

Hair testing cannot be used to detect alcohol.

Analysis of hair may provide a much longer ?testing window? for the presence of drugs and drug metabolites, giving a more complete drug-use history that goes back as far as 90 days. Like urine testing, hair testing does not provide evidence of current impairment, only past use of a specific drug. Hair testing cannot be used to detect alcohol.

According to this 6-10 hours for alcohol


Alcohol testing

Commonly Abused Drugs

Depressants
Alcohol Beer, Wine, Liquor Antidote for methanol poisoning Oral Not Scheduled 6-10 hours
Barbiturates Amytal, Nembutal, Seconal, Phenobarbital; Barbs Anesthetic, anticonvulsant, hypnotic, sedative Injected, oral II, III, IV 2-10 days
Benzodiazepines Ativan, Halcion, Librium, Rohypnol, Valium; Roofies, Tranks, Xanax Antianxiety, anticonvulsant, hypnotic, sedative Injected, oral IV 1-6 weeks
Methaqualone Quaalude, Ludes None Oral I 2 weeks
Hair Drug Testing


lol, sorry marijuana
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: 1prophet
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: 1prophet
Make sure you get it removed from drug testing policies also, after all why should someone get penalized on monday for an accident or mandatory drug testing based on what they smoked on saturday night.

We don't do that with alcohol and there is no reason we would with drugs. People are responsible for what they do when it affects the rights of others.

Do you know of anyone who failed a blood alcohol test 2 or more days after they had their last drink because I had friends that failed drug tests several days after taking them even though they weren't under the influence during the test and it wasn't affecting their job performance?

Looks like I misinterpreted what you meant. Good point.

 

palehorse

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there may be one or two good reasons wh it should/could be legalized. however, there are many more BAD reasons that indicate that it should not.
 

LumbergTech

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: 1prophet
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: 1prophet
Make sure you get it removed from drug testing policies also, after all why should someone get penalized on monday for an accident or mandatory drug testing based on what they smoked on saturday night.

We don't do that with alcohol and there is no reason we would with drugs. People are responsible for what they do when it affects the rights of others.

Do you know of anyone who failed a blood alcohol test 2 or more days after they had their last drink because I had friends that failed drug tests several days after taking them even though they weren't under the influence during the test and it wasn't affecting their job performance?

Looks like I misinterpreted what you meant. Good point.

thats one of the worst things about pre-employment screening, anyone who does pretty much any other drug besides weed can just not do it for a week and pass the test, its only the marijuana smokers who would still be caught