is there noticeable difference between P2 400 and Celeron @ 850?

[astroview]

I have been sick of bad mpeg playback, so I think I will upgrade. Any opinions if this is good?

 

[Bojo]

Celerons are very similar to P2's in most situations I think, so an 850 MHZ Celeron should be much faster than a P2 400.

 

[Goi]

Celeron 850s perform at about the same level as a P3 600-700 in most cases. I don't know about video playback though. I believe Tom's Hardware have several articles on video playback, so perhaps you'd like to take a look.

 

[andylawcc]

yep, cele850 is much faster than p2 400

 

[Madcowz]

I wouldn't say MUCH faster, but yes, you will notice a difference. Have you considered a Duron? A Duron @ 1GHz shouldn't cost you much more and Durons are better performance clock for clock than a celery

 

[astroview]

Didn't want to upgrade the motherboard, plus I think I might give this chip to my parents later on and get a better P3.

 

[Zucchini]

Bad comparison. A celeron 1 is based on p2, while a celeron 2 is based on p3. The celeron 2 at 850 is far faster then a p2 400, p3's are faster anyways.. and the extra instructions help too.

 

[Erasmus-X]

<< A celeron 1 is based on p2, while a celeron 2 is based on p3. >>



Minor correction. Celeron2 chips are based on the .18u Coppermine P3. Remember that the P3 was also available as a .25u Katmai part not so long ago......

 

[The Wildcard]

I had a celeron 300a @ 450mhz until it died out so I switched to a Celeron 566 @ 850mhz and i have noticed some difference, but only in games. I noticied about a 20-30fps increase in Q3 and also an average increase of 15-20 fps increase in Counter-strike.

 

[JayPatel]

i went thru the exact upgrade, turst me buddy, it is well worth the upgrade.

 

[Fandu]

How would you put that in perspective... umm &quot;The Celeron 850 will eat a P2 400 for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Plus have room for dessert&quot;

 

[Mule]

Strawberry cheezecake to be exact.

 

[Zucchini]

Well there is another place where u can see a big difference in performance. A p2 400 can't decode divX at full quality, a celly 850 does it easily.

 

[astroview]

Thanks, I was looking at benchmarks and I wasn't sure I made a good choice. Thanks a lot.

 

[Fandu]

Glad to help.

Zucchini: I know your correct on the DivX issue, but my Dual Celeron 464 under Win2K Pro does it just fine. Just thought I'd mention that for all the BP6 owners.

 

[novice]

The Celeron2 at 850 should seriously smoke the P2 400. My new celeron 600 @ 900 even smokes my PIII 600E at 744!! about 15% faster in Wintune with identical motherboards:Q So a Celeron at 850 should totally run away from a PII 400. The Celerons are great bang for the buck without the complications of Duron/KT 133 hassles. Not as fast, but simpler for the simple ones among us.
chuck

 

[ndee]

novice:


<< The Celerons are great bang for the buck without the complications of Duron/KT 133 hassles >>



OK, tell us about the &quot;Duron/KT 133 hassles&quot;. Do you own such a system? No? Aaahhhhh, you've heard it. Don't base your personal opinion only on things you've heard.... I've got a TBird with a MSI K7T Pro, and I never had problems, so.

[Edit]Tell us also about the &quot;best&quot; bang for the buck. Do I hear .... Duron?[/Edit]

 

[Pete]

Easy there, ndee . And a Duron is not neccesarily the best bang/buck upgrade for someone with a BX mobo (like me).

 

[ndee]

Pete:
True, true. But for someone who wants to upgrade his Mobo either, I guess it's the best bang for buck. My opinion.

 

[novice]

Ndee, I agonized for weeks over whether to go for the MSI-6330/Duron or the MSI-6309/Celeron. Believe it or not, I researched it at length. I just decided to sacrifice a little speed for the familiarity of the motherboard and the ease of overclocking without connecting bridges with a pencil. I am very happy with the decision I made, and I am pleased that you are happy with yours as well. I still may go for a MSI-KT7Pro with a Duron or T-Bird to upgrade the &quot;slow system&quot; in our house, a Celeron 366. Time and budget will tell. On the other hand, I also know that a Celeron 600@900 or 633@950 is also a very functional system and cost effective, too. Maybe the number of posts I have read of people having difficulties with their Duron/T-Bird systems are more a result of so many people putting them together rather than an indication of problems with the motherboards/processors. ( or maybe it is that so many of them were using the Abit motherboards )
Chuck

 

[Hankysmoo]

wow, this is the EXACT same dillemma I have. Right now my p2 400 is running on some generic 440bx p2 motherboard with markings &quot;QMBX851C1000-000 Rev 1.0&quot; anyone know what motherboard this is? I was wondering if I could upgrade to a celeron II with a slotket and run it on this motherboard or do i have to buy a new motherboard? thx

UPDATE: I just figured out it is a EDOM motherboard

 

[ndee]

novice:
I don't say the celery is slow, cuz I never saw one running, but I do know that the Duron 600 at work, outpeforms my other computer, a PIII 500. I knooooooooooow, it's not only depending on the MHz fsck, but in my opinion, the quality of the components are equally. Actually, it doesn't matter to me with which CPU you go...

 

[Dennis Travis]

If you want to see how the Celeron II compairs to a Duron check Anands latest review. Celeron II 766

 

[novice]

Dennis wrote: &quot;If you want to see how the Celeron II compairs to a Duron check Anands latest review. Celeron II 766&quot;
Keeping in mind that Anand was running the Celeron II 766 at default front side bus, 66 MHz. I am very confident that a Celeron II 600 or 633 overclocked with the 100 MHz fsb would pummel the 766 in benchmarks. I was quite surprised that my Celeron 600 @ 900 was quite a bit faster than my PIII 600@744 in Wintune. I would be curious to see what a Duron 700 would do on wintune. Anybody?
Chuck

 

[Hankysmoo]

anyone have answer to my question?