Technically, but Windows only runs on x86 hardware. Darwin has been ported to and maintained on multiple architectures though.
Technically, but Windows only runs on x86 hardware. Darwin has been ported to and maintained on multiple architectures though.
Ameesh is a Microsoft fan. He likes the Microsoft way, and doesn't hold any love for the unix philosophy.
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Don't correct someone unless your know your right.Originally posted by: daveshel
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
OS X has nothing to do with Linux and Linux has nothing to do with OS X.
OSX is based on linux.
Are you splitting hairs? It isn't purely linux, but closer than to previous Mac OSs.
link
Phoenix86
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I can run Linux, Unix, and Windows on x86. x86 isn't proprietary. When is OS X going to join the club? Probably never, and Apple wants it that way. How many usefull OSes can you load on Apple's hardware that are not made by Apple? Proprietary across the board.
If I could load OS X on one of the half dozen machines I have access to I might. If Apple wasn't so proud of their hardware I might have half a dozen Apple machines...
I also don't support many Sony products for the same reasons. Price and proprietary formats.
Originally posted by: daveshel
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Don't correct someone unless your know your right.Originally posted by: daveshel
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
OS X has nothing to do with Linux and Linux has nothing to do with OS X.
OSX is based on linux.
Are you splitting hairs? It isn't purely linux, but closer than to previous Mac OSs.
link
We're not splitting hairs at all. I'll read the link in a bit, but Mac OS X has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH LINUX. It's that simple. It's a BSD userland, with a Mach and FreeBSD kernel. NOT LINUX.
Phoenix86
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Originally posted by: daveshel
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Don't correct someone unless your know your right.Originally posted by: daveshel
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
OS X has nothing to do with Linux and Linux has nothing to do with OS X.
OSX is based on linux.
Are you splitting hairs? It isn't purely linux, but closer than to previous Mac OSs.
link
First, Linux and OS-X are both based on UNIX, so of course have similarities. Second, YOUR the one who corrected n0cmonkey, so if anyone is splitting hairs it's YOU. Finally, in case you didn't click on the link and read the 50 point bolded font title, I'll tell you what it says.
Based on UNIX
That's from the OS developers, perhaps a trustworth source. Now please STFU and again, don't correct someone when your not right.
I can run Unix, Linux, Darwin, OpenBSD, and NetBSD on PPC platforms. The only one not available for Apple hardware is Unix. PPC is not proprietary.
At least 4. PPC is not proprietary.
Apple would die if it tried to use Microsoft's business model. It's as simple as that.
What's so proprietary that Sony makes? I'm truly ignorant on this one.
Originally posted by: buck
Originally posted by: Spike
OSX
Productivity = Good
Gaming = Bad
WIN XP
Productivity = Mediocore
Gaming = Good
Gaming >>>>>>>>>>>> Productivity
:thumbsup:
Agreed, I like OSX alot more than XP, too bad it doesn't have better game compatibilty
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: daveshel
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Don't correct someone unless your know your right.Originally posted by: daveshel
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
OS X has nothing to do with Linux and Linux has nothing to do with OS X.
OSX is based on linux.
Are you splitting hairs? It isn't purely linux, but closer than to previous Mac OSs.
link
First, Linux and OS-X are both based on UNIX, so of course have similarities. Second, YOUR the one who corrected n0cmonkey, so if anyone is splitting hairs it's YOU. Finally, in case you didn't click on the link and read the 50 point bolded font title, I'll tell you what it says.
Based on UNIX
That's from the OS developers, perhaps a trustworth source. Now please STFU and again, don't correct someone when your not right.
Linux wasn't based on Unix, and OS X is barely based on it (depending on the definition you use of Unix).
what is there to say?
Windows gets all the software way way way before the same software if at all comes out on Craptastic apples..
A computer isnt good for much without software.. every time I walk past the mac SHELF on the way the the entire PC Software section I just snicker...
BUT I do lust over thier top knotch BIG ASS Monitors =P
Your point would have made a better impact if you phrased it politely: Apple Macintosh systems do not do what I require from a computer.
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: daveshel
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Don't correct someone unless your know your right.Originally posted by: daveshel
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
OS X has nothing to do with Linux and Linux has nothing to do with OS X.
OSX is based on linux.
Are you splitting hairs? It isn't purely linux, but closer than to previous Mac OSs.
link
First, Linux and OS-X are both based on UNIX, so of course have similarities. Second, YOUR the one who corrected n0cmonkey, so if anyone is splitting hairs it's YOU. Finally, in case you didn't click on the link and read the 50 point bolded font title, I'll tell you what it says.
Based on UNIX
That's from the OS developers, perhaps a trustworth source. Now please STFU and again, don't correct someone when your not right.
You are out of line. He corrected me first. And while you are at it, learn the difference between you're and your. It gives you much more credibility when you are also literate while you are being petty.
Spike
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I might actually get an apple setup if
a: My wife would like me have more than 3 computers
b: Apple comps did not cost so freaking much
c: repeat 'b'
They are fun to mess around with (some very cool features) but I don't feel like taking the time (or the money) to switch completely over. That and I LOOOOOVE computer games.
-spike
a: My wife would like me have more than 3 computers
b: Apple comps did not cost so freaking much
c: repeat 'b'
They are fun to mess around with (some very cool features) but I don't feel like taking the time (or the money) to switch completely over. That and I LOOOOOVE computer games.
-spike
Phoenix86
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OK, PPC, yes, but are all new machines PPC? (Ignorant here) I though that was a line of machines, at least it was at one point.
OK, so maybe the hardware isn't has proprietary as I though...
Why do you tink Apple would die if the used MS model? Why wouldn't they be able to compete?
Sony=Betamax, Betacam, MiniDisk, Memory Sticks, ATRAC you name it. Sony=proprietary, sometimes they relax and use standard formats. Their music players just recently started accepting MP3 formats, if that tells you anything.
OK, so maybe the hardware isn't has proprietary as I though...
Why do you tink Apple would die if the used MS model? Why wouldn't they be able to compete?
Sony=Betamax, Betacam, MiniDisk, Memory Sticks, ATRAC you name it. Sony=proprietary, sometimes they relax and use standard formats. Their music players just recently started accepting MP3 formats, if that tells you anything.
Originally posted by: daveshel
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: daveshel
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Don't correct someone unless your know your right.Originally posted by: daveshel
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
OS X has nothing to do with Linux and Linux has nothing to do with OS X.
OSX is based on linux.
Are you splitting hairs? It isn't purely linux, but closer than to previous Mac OSs.
link
First, Linux and OS-X are both based on UNIX, so of course have similarities. Second, YOUR the one who corrected n0cmonkey, so if anyone is splitting hairs it's YOU. Finally, in case you didn't click on the link and read the 50 point bolded font title, I'll tell you what it says.
Based on UNIX
That's from the OS developers, perhaps a trustworth source. Now please STFU and again, don't correct someone when your not right.
You are out of line. He corrected me first. And while you are at it, learn the difference between you're and your. It gives you much more credibility when you are also literate while you are being petty.
I corrected you because I was right.
do you now...
I like OS X, but I like XP better because it's much easier to mess with the scary advanced settings! Also, Apple seriously needs to GET OUT OF THE STONE AGE and start shipping everything with multibutton mice.
It's all PPC.
The chipset is the most (only?) proprietary part.
I've outlined it before, but here you go:
No one would develop for them anymore, after having been switched from m68k -> PPC, and then from OS 9 to OS X.
Long time Apple users would be put off for seeing no new machines ever coming out.
The OS would cost more than Windows, since Apple wouldn't have the bulk sales Microsoft has.
Apple would spend oodles more money developping drivers, dealing with crappy hardware, etc.
Thanks for the info.
Originally posted by: jagec
do you now...
I like OS X, but I like XP better because it's much easier to mess with the scary advanced settings! Also, Apple seriously needs to GET OUT OF THE STONE AGE and start shipping everything with multibutton mice.
Why? They aren't necessary.
I have never been impressed with any of the other OS. They all seem like a pain in the ass to use compared to windows 95 and newer.
Phoenix86
Lifer
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First, I'm right, so I'm not out of line.Originally posted by: daveshel
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: daveshel
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Don't correct someone unless your know your right.Originally posted by: daveshel
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
OS X has nothing to do with Linux and Linux has nothing to do with OS X.
OSX is based on linux.
Are you splitting hairs? It isn't purely linux, but closer than to previous Mac OSs.
link
First, Linux and OS-X are both based on UNIX, so of course have similarities. Second, YOUR the one who corrected n0cmonkey, so if anyone is splitting hairs it's YOU. Finally, in case you didn't click on the link and read the 50 point bolded font title, I'll tell you what it says.
Based on UNIX
That's from the OS developers, perhaps a trustworth source. Now please STFU and again, don't correct someone when your not right.
You are out of line. He corrected me first. And while you are at it, learn the difference between you're and your. It gives you much more credibility when you are also literate while you are being petty.
When I'm posting incorrect information I might be out of line. Even then I would probably apologize, but I sure the hell woudn't correct some stupid fvcking grammer mistake.
If I posted your/you're correctly you would have understood that OS-X is based on UNIX?
Modeps
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OSX was a definate step in the right direction from Apple. However due to the amount of gaming I do, I just cant in my right mind pay the premium price of them. I'll always stick to PCs... unless I can get a really cheap widescreen iBook. (I dont game on laptops )
)I cannot stand using my g/f's Mac laptop its an ibook G3 I think so yea it's on the slow side already but my god is the thing just dog f'ing slow... Everything about that OS is hard to use I dont understand how you guys can say it has productivity advantages over windows. Having to hold ctrl and click just to open a new window or anything else that isn't done with a single mouse button is just f'ing stupid. I haven't been forced to use it long enough to actually get used to the way it runs but going from windows to OSX it was like going from a BMW to a YUGO!
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