Is there any reason you still get 6800GT instead 6800GS?

[faye]

Talking about PCI-E

for both card, will you still get 6800GT instead of the GS version?
GS is almost as fast as GT, but not faster , when it comes stock, right? not after OC?

 

[The Green Bean]

I frankly donot understand your poll :s

 

[faye]

ok, i make it clear for everyone.

6800GT faster or 6800GS faster?
if 6800GT faster, then in the poll please choose Yes, if not choose NO..

Honestly i can't make myself anymore clear"er"

I went to the place to buy videocard yesterday, the sales told me that 6800GS is using 128bit and GT is definitely faster... so i hurried back and verify.
GS is 256bit...

 

[the Chase]

Big thing is price difference with the GS being cheaper. What i am curious about and no review touched on- is which card is faster when both are overclocked to their max. (I bet the GT would be faster overall with its 16 pipes). But the GS is priced $60-$80 cheaper so its hard to not go that route all things considered).

 

[faye]

the Chase, this is very smart thinking.!

but people keep telling me not only $60 to $80 cheaper, but it is as fast or faster than GT or even reach the Ultra speed.

I don't know if a 12pipes can reach this speed, I hope the board can prove me here, cuz i am sure someone here already has one or two GS

 

[The Green Bean]

Sorry faye, it maybe Im just sleepy having been awake for 24 hrs and travelling sux!

 

[DrZoidberg]

they both same speed when both not overclocked, check anandtech review.

cant vote on your poll cause there isnt option similar speed/no difference. I guess the 6800GS is slightly faster as some people have said they overclock well but at stock same speed.

 

[the Chase]

Well I think the 6800GT would be faster overall as they can oc as good or better(percentage wise) than the GS.But if you are going to spend $280-$290 for the GT you might as well spend $300-$310 for the 7800GT and get something 50-70% faster than either of the other 2 cards!!

Edit- the 6800GS is really the better buy until you want to spend $300 for a video card.

 

[Acanthus]

There is no reason to buy a 6800GT new.

 

[faye]

Here in HK the cheapest GS i can find is about $240
and the cheapest 7800GT is $390

so u can see the difference

 

[fliguy84]

the GS is much, much better than the GT. although at stock speed, the GS loses a bit but the OC potential is what makes the GS a winner. it can OC around 520/1100

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: fliguy84
the GS is much, much better than the GT. although at stock speed, the GS loses a bit but the OC potential is what makes the GS a winner. it can OC around 520/1100

it has 12 pipes. 6800GTs do 430/1150+ in some cases.

 

[faye]

Originally posted by: hatim

Originally posted by: fliguy84
the GS is much, much better than the GT. although at stock speed, the GS loses a bit but the OC potential is what makes the GS a winner. it can OC around 520/1100

it has 12 pipes. 6800GTs do 430/1150+ in some cases.

6800GT has 16pipes
6800GS has 12pipes

 

[Exsomnis]

Faster is not the issue, they're both about the same speed in real-world benchmarks. The difference is price, and it's price which makes the 6800GS a replacement to the 6800GT.

 

[faye]

RIGHT!!!

 

[DrZoidberg]

just because 6800gs has 12 pipes doesnt mean its slower than 6800gt. Look at the x1800xt with 16 pipes. Is x1800xt slower than 7800gt because it has 4 less pipes? Didnt ATI prove that clock speed can make up for less pipes?

 

[Exsomnis]

Originally posted by: DrZoidberg
just because 6800gs has 12 pipes doesnt mean its slower than 6800gt. Look at the x1800xt with 16 pipes. Is x1800xt slower than 7800gt because it has 4 less pipes? Didnt ATI prove that clock speed can make up for less pipes?

That is exactly the case with the 6800GS. Nvidia need a card in this price-range of the market to compete with the X1300 or X1600 (I can't remember which), and since they already have the shader model 3.0 angle covered, they didn't really need to make a new variation on the G70 core just do fill this gap.

With the 6800GT becoming older tech, less popular, less available and quickly rising in price, disabling a few pipelines and ramping up the clock speeds on a fully-capable core opens an opportunity for them to save money for both themselves and the consumer. It's good marketting, and that is coming from an ATi user.

Currently, the only real threat to the 6800GS is the X800 GTO², but thanks to lack of SM3.0 support, PureVideo, and it being a limited edition, it won't be a threat for long. Once ATi introduces the X1300/X1600 (whichever it is in this price-range), they're going to have a very tough time convincing people not to buy a 6800GS.

 

[dingetje]

Originally posted by: faye
Here in HK the cheapest GS i can find is about $240
and the cheapest 7800GT is $390

hi faye, do you know any shops in HK who will ship to taipei?
the shops here in taipei have no gs-cards yet and probably wont for another 2 weeks or longer (moreover, gfx cards are hella expensive here) :disgust:

 

[the Chase]

Originally posted by: hatim

Originally posted by: fliguy84
the GS is much, much better than the GT. although at stock speed, the GS loses a bit but the OC potential is what makes the GS a winner. it can OC around 520/1100

it has 12 pipes. 6800GTs do 430/1150+ in some cases.

:thumbsup: Yeah the GT is gonna own the GS when both cards are maxed out. But wow the $ difference where you are- Buy the GS!!!!

Edit- just read the poll- People have to remember the GT's overclock better than the GS's

 

[Captante]

And what if your still running AGP & don't want to upgrade your mb yet? (just for the sake of argument)

 

[fbrdphreak]

Or you could just buy my 6800GT w/Thermalright V1 cooler on it, then clock the biotch to 430/11xx

 

[Exsomnis]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
Or you could just buy my 6800GT w/Thermalright V1 cooler on it, then clock the biotch to 430/11xx

Which, at least where I am, would cost over twice as much as a GS. That's the entire point of the GS. Anyone who buys a GT now must have money to burn, and you're free to send it my way instead of burning it.

 

[compgeek89]

6800 GS
12 x 425 = 5100
5 x 425 = 2125

6800 GT
16 x 350 = 5600
6 x 350 = 2100

They are about even.

GS has slightly more vertex power, GT has slightly more pixel power.

 

[Exsomnis]

As I keep saying the difference isn't performance. They've changed the way it's built, but it still performs the same, the difference is price. Anyone who buys a PCI-E 6800GT over a 6800GS is just batzhit insane.

 

[imported_g33k]

Originally posted by: Captante
And what if your still running AGP & don't want to upgrade your mb yet? (just for the sake of argument)

Well then your options become a bit more complicated. If you want high end, you have to go PCI-E. AGP mid-range cards fetch a price premium. It may be better just to swap out to a pci-e motherboard. If you can't be bothered with that, then it would be ok to buy an AGP 6800/x800 only if you upgrading from say a 9800pro or worse.