Is there an interest for a Christmas Race in Folding@Home?

[MadMurph]

Originally posted by: biodoc

Originally posted by: Insidious
I get about 1000 PPD with an Opteron (dual core) @ 2.5MHz

You're going to do MUCH better than that with a quad core Intel at 3.2GHz (I think the 3.5K is probably about right)

-Sid

I'm getting about 2200 PPD with a Q6600 running at 2.4GHz😀

Nope, you're right. Fuzzy math, carry the one, drop the front end, ....d'oh. Yeah, should be about 3,000 ppd.

 

[petrusbroder]

Thanks for all the info, TeAm-mates! This makes my fun easier! 😉
I'll set up the teams coming week end (Real Life issues before then), we will have 4 - 5 days to discuss and finalize it all. 🙂

 

[GenHoth]

I'll be getting ~1600-1700 ppd. But like I said, I'll be cutting out in early-mid December! (so match me with someone half that I guess)

 

[Assimilator1]

Originally posted by: Insidious
AS1

I think the best way to estimate your Q6600 output would be to install two SMP instances with the following setup information:

user name: Insidious
Team number: 198

I'll let you know how they're doing in a couple months.

😉
-Sid

lol
err yea ok I'll get on that then😛😉

Slider76
Thanks for that, quite a boost from Linux! ,though I've not yet needed Linux & I CBA to start now😉

Thanks for the info folks :thumbsup:

Btw testing at 3.15GHz atm 🙂

 

[bunker]

I'm in!
<---The artist previously known as bunker, name change on the forum, still bunker in F@H, don't ask 😉.

avg. about 1800 day.

Put me on the winning team, don't care which one as long as it's the one that wins.

Are there any rules about adding boxes during the race? I may have a couple more machines I can throw in but I won't know for a couple weeks.

 

[Insidious]

The rule is that you will be most popular if you can find more to throw at the race as it progresses!!!!! Go get'em... it's fair (and hoped for)

-Sid

:beer:

 

[petrusbroder]

Curly - bunker: you are in.
Adding comps is ok - or rather: it is encouraged ... 😀

I do not know which team is going to win - so I'll toss a coin. :Q

 

[Slider76]

Assimilator: The link I posted contains a pre configured version of Ubuntu to run as a Virtual Machine, all you need to do is download it and run two instances (each one using 2 cpu cores), type in one line and it downloads the client and away you go! granted each one will take around 420mb of ram. but it can have a significant improvement on ppd, whilst still letting you use windows!

I've tried running one instance on my x2 but I keep getting 2610 or 2609 wu's and they are really cache dependant, and actually run slower than a 2653 that I normally get under the windows smp client.
🙂

 

[petrusbroder]

Any more crunchers who will join the Holiday Season Race in Foldin@Home? :Q

Wednesday morning BUMP! 😀

 

[Uppsala9496]

A little OT and nothing more than a rant. Please ignore.

I'll be shutting down my A64 2800+ (250ppd) tonight until I can reinstall ubuntu on it.
My conversion from Fiesty to Gutsy has caused some serious headaches. I need to move all of my boxes out of what used to be my sanctuary to convert it to a baby's room.
That means putting in wireless cards since the location for my computers now doesn't have a phonejack for the modem/router.

Well, I installed a realtek 8185 based card on my XP Pro machine last night and it took all of 1 minute 42 seconds to have it connected to my wireless network (that included booting back up and putting the door back on the case).

I installed the same realtek 8185 based card on my ubuntu machine.......let's just say that 13 hours later I'm still having issues. After some 63 restarts due to the system freezing at various points, I'm beyond frustrated. Currently the machine has an old 6.4GB HD I had lying around as the main drive. I recently swapped out a 80GB from my main XP machine and will put that in the ubuntu machine tonight. I think I am going to just go with a fresh install of Gutsy and see if that resolves the driver issue I'm having with the wireless card.

So, in short, one rig is going down for the foreseeable future if last night was any indication.


And I was getting 1% done every 28 minutes prior to attempting to get the wireless card working....this morning I looked at my log and my time has jumped to 58 minutes for 1%.
Why would my production get cut in half. The processor is still running the same speed....

UGH.:|

 

[GLeeM]

Originally posted by: Uppsala9496
And I was getting 1% done every 28 minutes prior to attempting to get the wireless card working....this morning I looked at my log and my time has jumped to 58 minutes for 1%.
Why would my production get cut in half. The processor is still running the same speed....

This not so much for you Uppsala9496, but others and just in case:

The regular client on start up checks to see how it was last shut down. If it was not cleanly shut down it will start up without optimizations turned on because it thinks it is the reason for the crash.

To get optimizations going again, correctly exit client (they say Ctrl+C, but I have always just used the X in the upper right corner) and restart.

If you know your computer is F@H stable: I always add the -forceasm flag to startup shortcuts (along with the -local and -verbosity 9 flags) as this flag will stop the client from looking at how it was last shutdown.

The SMP client does not need the -forceasm flag, it always uses optimizations (even if the log says otherwise 😕 ).

 

[Insidious]

Originally posted by: Uppsala9496
UGH.:|

I feel your pain man!

Before the Windows SMP client, I put UBUNTU on two of my X2 computers so I could crunch (Greed is a wonderful thing) SMPs.

Now I'll grant anyone that Linux has it's place and is good for lots and lots of things, but the hardware support from that virus was exasperating for me too. I might as well have been using an onboard Intel video card, my scanner wouldn't work, my soundcard took on a life of it's own and yes.... I had nothing but issues with wireless network card(s)

True, I am a total idiot when it comes to Linux, but that OS has a LONG way to go before I would be able take that leap of faith again....

I thank the folding peeps for making a windows client for these luscious SMP work units.

The very small PPD advantages of linux just weren't worth it for me.

-Sid

 

[Rattledagger]

Originally posted by: petrusbroder
Any more crunchers who will join the Holiday Season Race in Foldin@Home? :Q

Well, all computers has finished the test-run, and 33,333% failed utterly to return the results, while 66,667% has failed to give any points.

So, with 100% error-rate, it's little point for me to join the FAH-race.


Good luck with the race. :beer:

 

[Philippart]

that's weird...
concerning the errors:
Are you sure your computers are stable? If you were using the SMP version: do you have frequent internet connection interruptions/disconnects?

concerning the credit issue:
If you look at this forum, you'll see that there is currently a crediting delay on 2 particular servers. Don't worry about it!

By the way: if you're this folder, you've joined the wrong team 😀

Tom

 

[GenHoth]

I've decided to just run the one instance of F@H, so my input will be around 400 ppd. If they develop a multi core system that isn't retarded let me know!

 

[Assimilator1]

Originally posted by: Philippart
By the way: if you're this folder, you've joined the wrong team 😀

Tom

Interesting ,that's where he started from many years ago😉

Slider76

The link I posted contains a pre configured version of Ubuntu to run as a Virtual Machine
lol ,you've lost me!😉

 

[GLeeM]

Originally posted by: GenHoth
I've decided to just run the one instance of F@H, so my input will be around 400 ppd. If they develop a multi core system that isn't retarded let me know!

The thing that syncs the four instances is a Microsoft file and for it to work the computer must have a password 😕

 

[GLeeM]

Originally posted by: Assimilator1
Slider76

The link I posted contains a pre configured version of Ubuntu to run as a Virtual Machine
lol ,you've lost me!😉

Looks like someone on that other team made an easy way for someone with no Linux knowledge to have SMP client run in Linux in a Virtual Machine on Windows. Almost a one click deal?

 

[Slider76]

Thats correct. I have no Linux know how. I downloaded the files and was up and folding with 5 mins. unfortunatly i received no benefits on my lowely x2 with its small cache.

 

[GenHoth]

Originally posted by: GLeeM
The thing that syncs the four instances is a Microsoft file and for it to work the computer must have a password 😕

BOINC uses all 4 cores no problem! I'm using the extra cycles to crunch other projects, so its not going to waste!

 

[Iron Chef]

<--- o080o with around 1800 ppd. I'm ready to rumble! 🙂

 

[Assimilator1]

Originally posted by: GLeeM

Originally posted by: Assimilator1
Slider76

The link I posted contains a pre configured version of Ubuntu to run as a Virtual Machine
lol ,you've lost me!😉

Looks like someone on that other team made an easy way for someone with no Linux knowledge to have SMP client run in Linux in a Virtual Machine on Windows. Almost a one click deal?

Yea but what's a virtual machine? lol😱

 

[Insidious]

A virtual machine is where you are running windows, but have an application (VMWare) that lets you open a window that is running Linux.....

In the past, the SMP work units were only supported in LInux and they were scored so highly that people would do just about anything to run them.... including running a virtual machine.

When you run a virtual machine it grabs a bunch of memory and then does it's best to run within the confines of windows overhead (which is considerable). A Linux client would crunch a work unit with somewhere in the neighborhood of a 25% hit in speed penalty for being in a virtual machine as opposed to being run under a normal Linux environment.

Now that there is a windows SMP client, I feel like I get more points (without crippling my windows) just running it with the windows client instead of the Virtual Machine mess. (It takes lots of babysitting if you want to use your machine for anything except folding anyway).

YMMV :beer:

-Sid

 

[petrusbroder]

Some time ago I proposed some rules for the race:

This time I propose that we make it this way:
1. To take part in this race you have to be a member of TeAm AnandTech @ Folding@home.
2. We start December 1st, 20:00 (UTC +1)
3. We end January 1, (20:00 UTC+1)
4. All crunch under their own name.
5. Petrusbroder makes the teams as well balanced as possible.
6. Once the race has started, changing teams is not allowed
7. Addition of crunchers and computers to a team is allowed. (This adds to the fun! )

The most important rules:
8. Have as much fun as you can.
9. Crunch as much as you can.

What do you think?
Please post your opinions, comments and ideas!

Until now noone has posted any comments - does this imply that the rules are OK?
Please comment!

I'll do some work on the teams this weekend.
Take care, enjoy life and drink a :beer: if you like!

 

[GLeeM]

Yes Peter, looks good and thanks!