Is there an interest for a Christmas Race in Folding@Home?

[Alyx]

Originally posted by: GenHoth

Originally posted by: MadMurph

Originally posted by: Markfw900
Well, I am only at 13k ppd, ...

"only" ??? Oh, Mark, so modest. I'm gonna go join the TAS group, just cuz I know you'll have to go out and buy some more equipment (just like he feels compelled to do on those very rare occasions when I actually best him in the daily totals). I love spending his money. :laugh: MM

edit: actually, the last couple of weeks Mark has been exceeding 15k ppd. Just for the record.

Good to have you aboard!

Ouch 15. I was never even close to that when I was folding. Doesn't matter how much I bought I wouldn't be touching that for the month.

Anyways I wouldn't be able to join on a race. Most of my machines will be off for most of December and some January while I'm gone. I'm afraid I wouldn't reach a decent total at all.

 

[natethegreat]

Put me in at 2~3K ppd, and I don't have a team preference

 

[biodoc]

Originally posted by: biodoc
I'll fold for either teAm but can only do 1100 ppd unless I can convince my wife to let me build a Q6600.

Correction: Looks like I may be able to do about 2200 ppd. :beer:

 

[Slider76]

i'll fold for the f@h team. i'm good for around 400ppd.

 

[petrusbroder]

I just looked up the official Forum AnandTech thread about the Holiday Season Race of 2005:
Here it is!

Last time it was like this:

Proposal:
1. Two teams: TAS-F@H vs (Now: find good names - I do not like negative names such as non-TAS or similar)
2. Start: December 1, 2005, 00:05 UTC (that is the timepoint I would read the stats from F@H stats page for all members registered.
3. End: January 1, 12:00 UTC (give me a break, who wants do do race-stats in the middle of the night ...)
4. Everyone crunches under his/her own name (OK, those TAS-members who do not have an account @ F@H could choose some thing which starts with TAS, I will choose TAS-Petrusbroder, that puts all of us in alphabetical order, makes it easier on me for the stats....)
The other details have to be discussed.
Do we need Team-Captains (those who organize their teams, and who PM to each other when problems arise?
If there are too many big-ppd-crunchers in one team we could use a bonus system, or we could balance the mini-teams (i.e. some would join TAS for the duration of the race) or something else - I am a noob in these matters, so all of you could help by adding your ideas and your comments ... E.g.: How do we balance the teams? Number and type of cores? passed history? How do we find out how much each cruncher can do?

For me the most important part is fun. This is for fun and for the TeAm.
I think we all have a sense of what is fair, so lets be generous to each others - lets give each other a great Christmas gift: a lot of fun doing this.

This time I propose that we make it this way:
1. To take part in this race you have to be a member of TeAm AnandTech @ Folding@home.
2. We start December 1st, 20:00 (UTC +1)
3. We end January 1, (20:00 UTC+1)
4. All crunch under their own name.
5. Petrusbroder makes the teams as well balanced as possible.
6. Once the race has started, changing teams is not allowed
7. Addition of crunchers and computers to a team is allowed. (This adds to the fun! )

The most important rules:
8. Have as much fun as you can.
9. Crunch as much as you can.

What do you think?
Please post your opinions, comments and ideas!

 

[petrusbroder]

Now the list of participants looks like this:

F@H-team:
Slider76 __________ 400
biodoc __________ 2 200
DainBramaged ___ 1 100 = JeffCos
Markfw900 _____ 14 500
Pokey ___________ 750
Insidious _______ 2 400

TAS-team:
Petrusbroder _____ ?
GLeeM __________2 500
RudyToody _______ ?
GenHoth _________ ?
Philippart ________ ?
MadMurph _____ 10 000
caferace ________ ?


No preference:
natethegreat ______ 2 500
Neurodog ___________ 80
Athlex ___________ 3 400
Assimilator1 _________ ?
Uppsala9496 ______ 3 200
Hurricane Andrew __ 3 500
TurtleBlue ________ 1 800
xpblackdragon ____ 5 500

I have checked the F@H-stats at http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com for some of the ppd-numbers. Lets see how many more will join, and then I'll make the teams.

Edit #1: spelling.
Edit #2: moved Insidious to F@H
Edit #3: added caferace.

 

[biodoc]

Sounds good to me

 

[Insidious]

You can put me on the F@H Preference list.

(I don't think I can keep a 2.4K pace though)

-Sid

 

[GLeeM]

It's looking good Peter!

There are enough crunchers with various ppd so you should be able to make even TeAms.

Do the TASsers need help determining their ppd? It will be harder to determine because of more clients this time than last time. For example, if you can run the SMP client, you will get much better ppd than the regular client.

For those that might not know F@H now has a PS3 client, a GPU client (for ATI 19** cards), a SMP client that will use up to four cores on one WU, and the regular WU client.

 

[JeffCos]

@ petrus

are you going on the honor system of people just saying what their PPD is or are you going to pick a date and time to take all the interested participants PPD according to extreme OC stats page? I guess if it's the latter you'd have to keep that date to yourself because people could easily switch off machines to lower their PPD.

 

[caferace]

OK, toss me into the mix.

I've never Folded, so we'll have to see what my boxen can do.

-jim

edit: TAS, of course..

 

[petrusbroder]

Originally posted by: JeffCos
@ petrus

are you going on the honor system of people just saying what their PPD is or are you going to pick a date and time to take all the interested participants PPD according to extreme OC stats page? I guess if it's the latter you'd have to keep that date to yourself because people could easily switch off machines to lower their PPD.

I am doing both - going on the honor system and - if the crunchers did not state their PPD - using the stats. It is kind of hard to avoid seeing many of the PPD so I have the feeling for it now. As of yesterday there was no difference to mention - perhaps 300 - 400 PPD more for all crunchers combined ... I assume that the crunchers rather state a lower PPD than a higher

The PPD will change more when the crunchers start racing, when they assimilate computers, when crunchers are added to the mix ... all this is part of the fun IMHO.

I hope that all crunchers stay cool, it is for science and for fun and at Christmas!

 

[petrusbroder]

Originally posted by: GLeeM
It's looking good Peter!

There are enough crunchers with various ppd so you should be able to make even TeAms.

Do the TASsers need help determining their ppd? It will be harder to determine because of more clients this time than last time. For example, if you can run the SMP client, you will get much better ppd than the regular client.

For those that might not know F@H now has a PS3 client, a GPU client (for ATI 19** cards), a SMP client that will use up to four cores on one WU, and the regular WU client.

Yes, it would be nice to have a hint of the TAS:ers PPD (unless they want to start using the clients and determine the PPD emiprically - but it takes time for the PPD to stabilize ... ). Could you give it a try, GLeeM? :Q

 

[Rudy Toody]

I'm in! I'm also without a clue! Which means I'm ready!

Last time I looked, they didn't have an ATI x1900 version for WinXP64. I will call rabrittain Monday to try it on his WinXP32.

Let's award the TAS Mini-Race Championship Belt to the highest producer on the winning team!

--Fred

 

[Philippart]

@Peter:
my account is Tom_Philippart not Philippart YGPM

I haven't run F@H on all my machines yet (only 3 out of 9), so I can only provide an extremely unprecise pd number...

It should be between 3400 and 3800 I suppose...

My preference is of course TAS.

 

[MadMurph]

An honor to be among such asute teammates.

With the "beloved patriot" Mark(FW900) has now exposed in his armor (get out the weeping violins), I see an opening -- looks like it'll be me opening up the ol' wallet (and eating another bird besides turkey for Thanksgiving.) I'm sure I've got something lying around that I could stuff another quad into -- giving it up for the team. While I'm at it, somebody contact Bleedinedge and make sure they're not giving Mark anymore computers.

Oh, this is going to be fun!

 

[MadMurph]

Addendum: It's only appropriate that the General(Hoth) and the "men of Normandy" should be united -- IMHO TAS should claim the Hurricane.

 

[Assimilator1]

Originally posted by: caferace
OK, toss me into the mix.

I've never Folded, so we'll have to see what my boxen can do.

-jim
edit: TAS, of course..

Hey Jim ,maybe you can pass me in this race?

Petrus
If no one is able to estimate my output then I will crunch F@H on my 4 cores starting 1 week prior to the race so you know my output.Or is that too late?


Does no one know what sort of output a Q6600 @3.2GHz would do?

 

[Insidious]

AS1

I think the best way to estimate your Q6600 output would be to install two SMP instances with the following setup information:

user name: Insidious
Team number: 198

I'll let you know how they're doing in a couple months.



-Sid

 

[Slider76]

Assimilator: probably around 3000 ppd if you run the smp windows client. If you run vmware and 2x linux clients that could jump up to ~3500ppd. http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33901067 for link with preconfigured VMware and Ubuntu.

David

 

[Rattledagger]

Originally posted by: JeffCos
are you going on the honor system of people just saying what their PPD is or are you going to pick a date and time to take all the interested participants PPD according to extreme OC stats page? I guess if it's the latter you'd have to keep that date to yourself because people could easily switch off machines to lower their PPD.

Well, with "Date of last work unit 2007-10-28" would guess my PPD is fairly low.

Anyway, is doing a little test-run, to see if anything blows-up, before deciding on if I'm going to join the race or not...

Hmm, based on the current progress, would guess on around 650 PPD with this non-SMP-application...

 

[GenHoth]

Originally posted by: MadMurph
Addendum: It's only appropriate that the General(Hoth) and the "men of Normandy" should be united -- IMHO TAS should claim the Hurricane.

Wow, I think this is the first time anyone has known what my handle stood for without asking! Props!

 

[MadMurph]

Origianlly posted by: Assimilator1Does no one know what sort of output a Q6600 @3.2GHz would do?

I agree with Slider76, you should run SMP client, but I disagree with his ppd. You would average about 1,000 ppd over the 31 day period with the one box. Most SMP projects are 1760 points, I believe, and you'd be able to crunch one project about every 14 hours, thus the average, above. JMHO.

Originally posted by: GenHoth

Originally posted by: MadMurph
Addendum: It's only appropriate that the General(Hoth) and the "men of Normandy" should be united -- IMHO TAS should claim the Hurricane.

Wow, I think this is the first time anyone has known what my handle stood for without asking! Props!

Not bad for an old hippie. :laugh:

 

[Insidious]

I get about 1000 PPD with an Opteron (dual core) @ 2.5MHz

You're going to do MUCH better than that with a quad core Intel at 3.2GHz (I think the 3.5K is probably about right)

-Sid

 

[biodoc]

Originally posted by: Insidious
I get about 1000 PPD with an Opteron (dual core) @ 2.5MHz

You're going to do MUCH better than that with a quad core Intel at 3.2GHz (I think the 3.5K is probably about right)

-Sid

I'm getting about 2200 PPD with a Q6600 running at 2.4GHz