Is there a way to get onto the Internet without having to first connect to a regular ISP?

tjaisv

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I was just curious whether there are any non-commercial ISP servers anywhere in the USA or Canada that allow you to dial in and gain TCP/IP Internet access. I'm not talking about cracked ISP accounts, I'm just talking about connecting directly to something else that has a route to the Internet backbone.
 

DarkManX

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nope, having a "free public ISP" has a very high cost, thats why free internet providers went bankrupt, or no longer free.
 

spidey07

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Just connect to a private network that connects to an ISP.

Business, university, military network, neighbors wireless.
 

tjaisv

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Just connect to a private network that connects to an ISP.

Business, university, military network, neighbors wireless.

Definitely. But i suppose i was thinking more of a rogue WAN server somewhere, not a LAN that i'd have to get permissions for.
 

tjaisv

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Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
Please explain this "rogue" WAN server that a person might be able to connect to.

Ok I guess it would be something akin to a privately held dial-up server set up on a LAN with hacked access to an ISP or to the internet backbone routers. Theoretically speaking, i'm sure something like this is possible, eh?
 

Caanon

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I read there are few small spots like this...like this one place in new york city I think it was that had free wireless in a small part of a park. Don't think it's very common though.
 

Shockwave

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ME ME!
Working for a telco / DSL company has perks! I subscribed to phone... Got my line ran, disco'd serviced.
Then used my vaild access to the routers to kinda "borrow" a port. Nothing beats an uncapped stealth port on the router right out to the internet.
All the TCP/IP trash the internet can bring me as fast as the backbone can beam it to me.
Life is guid. :D
 

tjaisv

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Stealth are u serious? :)

I was thinking if i had a Cisco router and could somehow gain access to an internet backbone router, whether through a hacked network or even locally (i know i'm dreaming), then i could work at injecting my own unused privately made route into the BGP routing tables and have it propagated all over the internet, that way i could access the internet and the internet could access me. I bet this is happening, but because it's at so high a level and so rare, u never hear about it.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: Shockwave
ME ME!
Working for a telco / DSL company has perks! I subscribed to phone... Got my line ran, disco'd serviced.
Then used my vaild access to the routers to kinda "borrow" a port. Nothing beats an uncapped stealth port on the router right out to the internet.
All the TCP/IP trash the internet can bring me as fast as the backbone can beam it to me.
Life is guid. :D

:confused:
 

milagro

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Originally posted by: tjaisv
Stealth are u serious? :)

I was thinking if i had a Cisco router and could somehow gain access to an internet backbone router, whether through a hacked network or even locally (i know i'm dreaming), then i could work at injecting my own unused privately made route into the BGP routing tables and have it propagated all over the internet, that way i could access the internet and the internet could access me. I bet this is happening, but because it's at so high a level and so rare, u never hear about it.

exactly how would you "inject" your own route into a secured routers table?
 

NeoPTLD

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Originally posted by: tjaisv
I was just curious whether there are any non-commercial ISP servers anywhere in the USA or Canada that allow you to dial in and gain TCP/IP Internet access. I'm not talking about cracked ISP accounts, I'm just talking about connecting directly to something else that has a route to the Internet backbone.

what does a small local ISP connects to?

Can you connect directly to what they connect to?
 

Shockwave

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Originally posted by: milagro
Originally posted by: tjaisv
Stealth are u serious? :)

I was thinking if i had a Cisco router and could somehow gain access to an internet backbone router, whether through a hacked network or even locally (i know i'm dreaming), then i could work at injecting my own unused privately made route into the BGP routing tables and have it propagated all over the internet, that way i could access the internet and the internet could access me. I bet this is happening, but because it's at so high a level and so rare, u never hear about it.

exactly how would you "inject" your own route into a secured routers table?

Dude, I never said this but.....
In reality, the internet backbone is fluid. Yeah man. No optical, no electrical. Its a substance similiar to Kool Aid. Thats why they use glass tubing. So, all you ned to do is get a syringe wih a 60/40 - Kool Aid / Garlic oil mix and you'll have a real close equivelant of the signalling fluid for the internet. Then get a hydroelectrical waveform machine. Its a converter to turn electrical signals into fluidic waveforms.
Hook your PC to the hydroelectric waveformer, then insert the syringe into a fiber line....
You'll be injecting right onto the Information Superhighway fast lane, bypassing all the traditional onramps...

This is all uber secret though, so I never said anything.....
 

chiwawa626

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Originally posted by: Shockwave
ME ME!
Working for a telco / DSL company has perks! I subscribed to phone... Got my line ran, disco'd serviced.
Then used my vaild access to the routers to kinda "borrow" a port. Nothing beats an uncapped stealth port on the router right out to the internet.
All the TCP/IP trash the internet can bring me as fast as the backbone can beam it to me.
Life is guid. :D

Wow can you post a speedtest :)?
 

Shockwave

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Originally posted by: chiwawa626
Originally posted by: Shockwave
ME ME!
Working for a telco / DSL company has perks! I subscribed to phone... Got my line ran, disco'd serviced.
Then used my vaild access to the routers to kinda "borrow" a port. Nothing beats an uncapped stealth port on the router right out to the internet.
All the TCP/IP trash the internet can bring me as fast as the backbone can beam it to me.
Life is guid. :D

Wow can you post a speedtest :)?

Keep in mind this is during streaming radio. I didnt kill any outbound / inbound connections...

2003-09-05 07:47:16 EST: 7500 / 4234
Your download speed : 7500605 bps, or 7500 kbps.
A 915.6 KB/sec transfer rate.
Your upload speed : 4234297 bps, or 4234 kbps.
Seems like broadband .. above the 1mbit barrier!

 

Shockwave

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Still streaming radio....

2003-09-05 07:48:44 EST: 8501 / 5102
Your download speed : 8501067 bps, or 8501 kbps.
A 1037.7 KB/sec transfer rate.
Your upload speed : 5102040 bps, or 5102 kbps.
Seems like broadband .. above the 1mbit barrier!
 

rh71

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Yes, there's free wireless in NYC (I think especially around the Central Park area)
 

Shockwave

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Stopped the streaming radio. Should be full pipe for the test now....

2003-09-05 07:49:34 EST: 8533 / 5870
Your download speed : 8533588 bps, or 8533 kbps.
A 1041.6 KB/sec transfer rate.
Your upload speed : 5870841 bps, or 5870 kbps.
Seems like broadband .. above the 1mbit barrier!
 

forager

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Originally posted by: tjaisv
I was just curious whether there are any non-commercial ISP servers anywhere in the USA or Canada that allow you to dial in and gain TCP/IP Internet access. I'm not talking about cracked ISP accounts, I'm just talking about connecting directly to something else that has a route to the Internet backbone.
Freenet

 

her209

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If you have any friends who have dedicated lines, you can aks them if they can set their computer up so that you can dial in.