Is there a simpler explanation for the recent spat of shout downs at town hall meetings?

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
This lady was on CNN today with Rick Sanchez and that interview made it clear this video is exactly what it appears to be. Good luck to those of you trying to make excuses, there aren't any.

I'd still like to hear from the other side to learn what she did to provoke it.

Thats racist.
 

Vic

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I don't get your point, Winston.
First, IMO this 'respect for the elderly' bit is mostly rose-colored nonsense. Maybe no one wrote in the history books about grandma and grandpa getting thrown out onto the poor farm or into debtors prison when they couldn't feed themselves anymore, but that is exactly what happened. Even the mystique of native American tribes is moslyt bullshit, they threw their old out into the cold, and then pretended to themselves that the old chose to do so out of some sense of noble stoicism.
Second, due to their solid voting blocs and ample free time, the elderly in the US of today effectively run this country. No politician running for asst dogcatcher can do anything without their support. Which is exactly why they have bestowed upon themselves all the 'benefits' of socialism while making sure the working young are the ones paying for it and receiving none of it.
You're right about the fear part though. God save the elderly in this country if the youth ever do wake up to what they're done, as the youth (by necessity) vastly outnumber them. Meh. I don't feel sorry for hypocrites.
 

JKing106

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: JKing106
The uppity n****r bitch spit on his David Duke poster earlier. I saw it all, I was there. Yes.

Seriously man... is that really called for?

It's JKing. Think of the stupidest person you've ever met. Now picture someone dumber than that. That's JKing.

You're so cute when you play pivot man in the circle jerk. It suits you, sweetcheeks.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: JKing106
Originally posted by: OCguy
Jking and Zegerman always trolling the same threads.....

Dur da dur dur dur.

As a knuckle dragging troglodyte racist, you lost me after the second dur and I'm missing something, I got the subject and the contraction and the object.

But what are the trailing "dur dur"? It must be some kind of prepositional phrase.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: Vic
I don't get your point, Winston.
First, IMO this 'respect for the elderly' bit is mostly rose-colored nonsense. Maybe no one wrote in the history books about grandma and grandpa getting thrown out onto the poor farm or into debtors prison when they couldn't feed themselves anymore, but that is exactly what happened. Even the mystique of native American tribes is moslyt bullshit, they threw their old out into the cold, and then pretended to themselves that the old chose to do so out of some sense of noble stoicism.
Second, due to their solid voting blocs and ample free time, the elderly in the US of today effectively run this country. No politician running for asst dogcatcher can do anything without their support. Which is exactly why they have bestowed upon themselves all the 'benefits' of socialism while making sure the working young are the ones paying for it and receiving none of it.
You're right about the fear part though. God save the elderly in this country if the youth ever do wake up to what they're done, as the youth (by necessity) vastly outnumber them. Meh. I don't feel sorry for hypocrites.


Oh I know that many times and societies did just what you say. We also threw whole families who couldn't pay off to debtors prison. Women whored themselves out instead of collecting a welfare check and for most of history we were slaves to a king.

I'm not sure what the elderly have done to you, but I expect you'll have a chance to exact your revenge one day, as the generation after you will do to you. I expect they'll be less kind, and God won't be helping you much.
 

JKing106

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Coming from sociopathic, racist, corporate knob polisher, I'll take that as a compliment.
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: MadRat
Is there a simpler explanation for the recent spat of shout downs at town hall meetings? The media seems to be tying the shout downs to the "health insurance overhaul". I contend that this is not true, as the shout downs are happening around the Omaha area in venues unrelated to the president's overhaul. I believe that the grey haired citizens are trying to lead a revolt against their government. And as crazy as it might seem they are revolting against their own half-brained policies.

The majority of the representation in local government around my state is grey haired. Quite a few cities in my state (Nebraska) are running into squeezes on their retirement funds after only a small percentage of old timers started to retire. These same people have over taxed and over spent this past twenty years around here. Its to the tune of a $12 million deficit in Omaha for 2009 alone. Nebraska, fearing its record surpluses are threatened, is raising taxes yet again to make sure it continues to pile up resources.

The local television news is dominated by these shout down reports. On the national scene its grey hairs shouting down the "health insurance overhaul" because they don't want the government to take over. Ironically the majority of the people they interview are on Medicare already... On the local scene its all about Jim Suttle, the new mayor, putting the city through the ringer because its over committed financially for the next twenty-five years by people that are largely out of politics now. Secondly, these same people don't want to fix the broken wheel because they might lose out on money that is not there. Ironically the blue hairs dominate the protests against the major. And the funniest thing about the whole protest is the guy that supposedly lead it claimed something about he had a lot of time on his hands and this fills it.

The surge in retirees seems to be the most responsible reason for the shout downs. Today its health care. It could have been just about anything, but that's the best reason for someone that has nothing better to do. I can see it now, next week when Ben & Jerry's is raising the price of their cones by $.05 it'll be time to gather the protesters again! People with too much time on their hands will protest about anything.
You do know that the "grey hairs", in the last 24 months, lost about 65% of their life savings, don't you?
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: JKing106
Coming from sociopathic, racist, corporate knob polisher, I'll take that as a compliment.

I am pretty sure spidey07 is not a sociopathic racist.
 

JKing106

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: JKing106
Coming from sociopathic, racist, corporate knob polisher, I'll take that as a compliment.

I am pretty sure spidey07 is not a sociopathic racist.

Sure he is. He's a Neocon. He hates Obama purely because he's a black man. I was raised by a racist. I can spot one a mile away. If he wasn't, he sure as hell wouldn't be defending that piece of shit Beck, because he's indefensible.

 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: JKing106
Coming from sociopathic, racist, corporate knob polisher, I'll take that as a compliment.

I am pretty sure spidey07 is not a sociopathic racist.

Glad you see the difference. (polishing knob)

JKing, please find a post of mine of where I disagree and don't like Obama that has anything to do with race other than Obama being a racist.

I live Dr. Martin Luther's Dream and judge content of character and not color of skin. It's truly sad that I and others who truly live the dream are deemed racist.
 

JKing106

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I can see you smirking while you typed that last sentence. Think you're cute, don't you? You defend Beck, who is trying to incite inter-racial violence with his "Obama hates white people!" spiel, which has no basis in reality. But here you are again, repeating it, calling Obama a racist. You, and the rest of the girls in your little Neocon circle jerk club on this forum have been called repeatedly on the mat to explain exactly how anything Obama has done or said can be construed as racist, and every time, you duck and dissemble. "Rev. Wright! Rev. Wright!" seems to be the favorite example of "proof." And the worst thing about it is I know you're intelligent enough to see through it. Unlike most of the morons defending it, I don't think you believe Beck's bullshit at all. You're doing this intentionally, because 1) you're a racist, 2) you're a sorry excuse for a human being, and 3) you just think it's funny. You really are a piece of human garbage. You're lower than pig shit.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: Vic
I don't get your point, Winston.
First, IMO this 'respect for the elderly' bit is mostly rose-colored nonsense. Maybe no one wrote in the history books about grandma and grandpa getting thrown out onto the poor farm or into debtors prison when they couldn't feed themselves anymore, but that is exactly what happened. Even the mystique of native American tribes is moslyt bullshit, they threw their old out into the cold, and then pretended to themselves that the old chose to do so out of some sense of noble stoicism.
Second, due to their solid voting blocs and ample free time, the elderly in the US of today effectively run this country. No politician running for asst dogcatcher can do anything without their support. Which is exactly why they have bestowed upon themselves all the 'benefits' of socialism while making sure the working young are the ones paying for it and receiving none of it.
You're right about the fear part though. God save the elderly in this country if the youth ever do wake up to what they're done, as the youth (by necessity) vastly outnumber them. Meh. I don't feel sorry for hypocrites.

Pisses me off every time I see it.
 

spittledip

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Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: cyclohexane
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Is this what the republican base has become? If so, then they are seriously screwed.

How have you determined that this guy is part of the "republican base"?

How can anyone even tell why he ripped up the poster?

Why did the crowd seem to applaud? Were the reporter and woman with teh poster speaking to loudly and everyone wanted to hear what Claire Mc had to say?

I don't see how any conclusions can be drawn from just that short vid clip?

Fern

This thread should be locked. The poster should be banned. This whole thread is flame bait from the title to the "content".
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: JKing106
I can see you smirking while you typed that last sentence. Think you're cute, don't you? You defend Beck, who is trying to incite inter-racial violence with his "Obama hates white people!" spiel, which has no basis in reality. But here you are again, repeating it, calling Obama a racist. You, and the rest of the girls in your little Neocon circle jerk club on this forum have been called repeatedly on the mat to explain exactly how anything Obama has done or said can be construed as racist, and every time, you duck and dissemble. "Rev. Wright! Rev. Wright!" seems to be the favorite example of "proof." And the worst thing about it is I know you're intelligent enough to see through it. Unlike most of the morons defending it, I don't think you believe Beck's bullshit at all. You're doing this intentionally, because 1) you're a racist, 2) you're a sorry excuse for a human being, and 3) you just think it's funny. You really are a piece of human garbage. You're lower than pig shit.

Not smirking at all at my last sentence. I believe it and I live it.

-edit-
And why the hell do people keeping associating and bringing up glenn beck? I have no idea who he is and I'm being totally honest, I don't lie on the forums because I have no reason to do so. But I'm making it a priority to listen to this guy because if he is riling up the moonbats, then he is doing something correctly. Freedom. You can't stop us.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Oh I know that many times and societies did just what you say. We also threw whole families who couldn't pay off to debtors prison. Women whored themselves out instead of collecting a welfare check and for most of history we were slaves to a king.

I'm not sure what the elderly have done to you, but I expect you'll have a chance to exact your revenge one day, as the generation after you will do to you. I expect they'll be less kind, and God won't be helping you much.

I bear no malice to the elderly, only to hypocrites.
 

Stuxnet

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Originally posted by: JKing106
Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: JKing106
Coming from sociopathic, racist, corporate knob polisher, I'll take that as a compliment.

I am pretty sure spidey07 is not a sociopathic racist.

Sure he is. He's a Neocon. He hates Obama purely because he's a black man. I was raised by a racist. I can spot one a mile away. If he wasn't, he sure as hell wouldn't be defending that piece of shit Beck, because he's indefensible.

LMFAO!!!

It's official... JKing has sprung a leak!
 

alchemize

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I just realized something. For the folks who are calling Obama racist, there are those who are saying YOU are racist. So it only stands to pass that THEY are actually the ones that are racist because they are accusing somebody of being racist.

Oh shit...endless loop.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
You do know that the "grey hairs", in the last 24 months, lost about 65% of their life savings, don't you?

Some 40% of which they've gained back since March. Which is why the market is now only down ~25% in the last 24 months, not 65%.
 

JKing106

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Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: JKing106
Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: JKing106
Coming from sociopathic, racist, corporate knob polisher, I'll take that as a compliment.

I am pretty sure spidey07 is not a sociopathic racist.

Sure he is. He's a Neocon. He hates Obama purely because he's a black man. I was raised by a racist. I can spot one a mile away. If he wasn't, he sure as hell wouldn't be defending that piece of shit Beck, because he's indefensible.

LMFAO!!!

It's official... JKing has sprung a leak!

LOLOLLOOLLOOO LLLLLOOLLOOOnweo!!!111!!!!LLOLLLLOLLLL!!!!!!

You done tole me off, Cletus! You a smart 'un!
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Oh I know that many times and societies did just what you say. We also threw whole families who couldn't pay off to debtors prison. Women whored themselves out instead of collecting a welfare check and for most of history we were slaves to a king.

I'm not sure what the elderly have done to you, but I expect you'll have a chance to exact your revenge one day, as the generation after you will do to you. I expect they'll be less kind, and God won't be helping you much.

I bear no malice to the elderly, only to hypocrites.

That's good, because it was hard to tell.

I do expect to be thrown to the wolves, but as you say that's been done before. I'm not fearful of it, but it's not what I would have thought a decade or so ago. It is what it is.
 

Red Dawn

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I can assure you that if that had been a 6'4" black man with the poster that coward wouldn't have even thought about grabbing it.